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~alpha
As Akirby said, Zephyr gets it first (by a few months) then the Milan/Fusion receive it. Although, that can always change depending on various other factors.
Alpha,
All depends upon the application for the 3.0L Duractec, there's various versions as you know. The Mustang V8 for example, has consistantly measured higher HP/TQ than what advertised (315-320HP). There are some vehicles already following SAE. Although I personally dislike this, 221, 193, 201, 157, 292 that some vehicles are sporting...I prefer more rounded 225, 200, 205, 160, 300 numbers....
http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0508/17/A01-283759.htm
"But Twork said Ford does not expect significant drop-offs in horsepower as the new test is phased in. When Ford unveiled its midsize Fusion sedan in January, it projected 210 horsepower. When it was tested under SAE's official protocol, the engine received a 221 horsepower rating, Twork said."
As it turns out, it was toyota and honda playing the "HP" game. Ford has been conservative and understating ever since the Cobra rating gaffe.
Click the Link go under vehicles on the upper right side of the screen, you'll see the 2006 Zephyr. It allows you to play with the colors and tells you a bunch of stuff about the car.
Lincoln site
The answer will be the conspiracy: Detroit bribed government to come up with new HP protocol. And there still is mighty Hyundai Sonata...
Not to mention that some of these offending manufacturer's have other vehicles in their brands which they have tested and reported correct using SAE method numbers as well ...
Actually for anyone doing the research on it, it's SAE standard J1349 which describes testing procedures and what's allowed, and not allowed, etc.
In the case of the F/M/Z, everything went according to plan and before production, 221HP was realized instead.
Now that the story broke that some foreign automakers have been overstating their horsepower (something I have hinted about in the past in other forums and no one believe me... :P ), the 221HP is REAL according to SAE standards, while others were using a method that would overstate their numbers. Notice how the Mazda6 dropped this year to 210HP.
"Hey Bill, how about a name that most people can't pronounce, that reminds people of that miserable Mercury version of the Fairmont"
"Well, If we call it the Zephyr, the Mark LT will no longer have the worst name in the industry"
"Let's see, the name looks odd, has a negative connotation and is unpronouncable--Let's do it!"
I'd guess the same people who named the Mark LT also named this; and they deserve the same fate.
began shipping from an assembly plant in Hermosillo, Mexico, this week, according
to Steve Lyons a Ford VP. They should start trickling into dealer showrooms in the next week or two.
I would have picked something that had more than one vowel.
I would have picked something that more than 10% of the population could pronounce.
I would have picked a name that was not recycled from a miserable car from 25 years ago which was named after an obscure car from 50 years before that.
How about the Lincoln "Mexican Mazda Deluxe"? At least that would have been honest.
Zephyr. Why do you find that so impossible to pronounce? Let me help you out, you pronounce it Zeffir.
At least Zephyr is easier to pronounce that something like Scion or even Hyundai. Some say Hun-dai, others say Hi-yundai.
And come on, the Zephyr is way more than a fancy Mazda 6 or Ford Fusion. Different styling, interior, material quality, options. The engine may be from the Fusion, but if the Edmunds Fusion First Drive is any indication, it should be no problem.
From Car and Driver Fusion review:
"the Aisin-Warner F21 gearbox shifts smoothly and intelligently."
Ford and GM are working on a new FWD 6 speed automatic that will replace the Aisin boxes in another couple of years.
I have no idea which will cost more by the time both are available so equipped.
What did you mean?
But the Lincoln will have more luxury features - which I like.
So, I would buy the Lincoln, hands down, regardless of cost difference, and I expect the Lincoln to cost $10,000 more than the 500.
Perhaps you mean the yet to be announced Lincoln version of the Five Hundred?
I also think that names that require a pronunciation guide should tend to be DOA.
How about this one:
"Lincoln Mazdito" It reflects the Japanese/Mexican origin, as well as the diminutive size of the car.
At least the Mark LT now has some company on the worst names list.
Actually, both of the consumers who bought Scorpios got a car with a decent model name.
Ford had just come out with the Taurus and then the Scorpio. Luckily the Merkur line died before we got the "Sagittarius" or better yet, the "Cancer".
Did you see the Edmund's comment in the Future Vehicles section:
"Lincoln's choices for this car's name and engine could conspire to prevent this vehicle from making a big splash in the entry-luxury segment."
Merkur, LS, Zephyr (& I lived in Grand Junction -- the Colorado Zephyr was a pretty big deal there) . . .hide and watch.
The Merkur & LS have already gone down the toilet. Even though I'm shopping other cars for my next, I'll be following the Zephyr closely. I'm not sure many others will.
Edmunds - the same folks who purposely ignored a known TSB that fixed tranny problems in an early LS just so they could complain about it a bit longer, couldn't find the battery in the LS (it's in the trunk) and who didn't understand why a change in engine stroke would affect the displacement. Automotive authorities they're not.
-Product names do not matter and are irrelevant to a product's success.
-Because of a vehicle review several years ago, Edmunds has proved they know nothing and their opinions are invalid.
-Zephyr is a lovely looking name. Words with Z and Y are underused.
-No one will ever say it "Zee-fire", "Zy-Fur", "Zee-fur", "Zep-her" or "Zep-hire"
It must be a tremendous burden possessing such omniscience.
- Only if they have negative connotations or are hard to pronounce. Zephyr does not fit either of those categories.
- Yes
- I agree
- Nobody who can afford to buy one
I simply do not believe that people looking to buy this car will be swayed one way or the other by the name. And since neither theory can be proven until sales figures are announced why don't we just wait a few months?