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So maybe the trucks will get similar treatment?
-juice
Did you know side curtain air bags are standard?
And the base engine has variable valve timing. That fact would embarass some luxury cars.
-juice
Automobile had this to say about the GT:
"...Hyundai engineers should spend a few weeks driving the competition so they might understand how far behind they are. Shifting through the gears in this car feels like stirring a straw through a convenience store slushie. Handling performance was comparable to Corollas and Civics of the 80's; while the ride was none too compliant, body control was poor, and the GT has a scary proclivity to pitch and bob in transitions. The steering also felt rather lifeless. We did come up with a neat trick to double the mushy brakes' performance; we dragged our feet out the door..."
That's just a sample. Here's the rest of the page in the comparo: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/0408_economy_cars/index4.htm- l
Pretty much reinforces most of my observations from previous experiences with basic Korean products thus far.
-Andrew L
Pros: Solidly built, powerful engine for its class, plenty of standard features, ultralow price tag, long warranty.
Cons: Poor offset crash test score, antilock brakes available only as a package option.
That's pretty positive, and the Kia adds VVT to the already "powerful engine" and some important safety features standard, to address their only cons.
-juice
I wonder what %-age of Hyundai sales go to rental fleets.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I had three Elantras last year from National, all at regional airports. Bad enough to fly into Podunk Heights (or wherever) and have to stay at a No Tell Motel, but adding insult to injury on the rental lot? Oy!
Tractor motor indeed! How's about the Sponge Bob suspension, eh?
I notice the advertising has been featuring the hitherto neglected Legacy GT rather than the SUV-wannabe Outback. GTs get 250hp versions of the turbo (pancake 4)...Nice.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I'm a Subie fan so I've noticed a LOT of them too, of course I sort of look out for them. Subaru has had a very successful launch, June sales were well above last year, and they weren't even in plentiful supply yet.
Have you seen how much taller the new Outback is? Check them out side by side, the OB looks like it's a foot higher (more like 4" but the impression is bigger).
-juice
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
-juice
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2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Actually, it was another bright idea by GM to spread the Envoy/Trailblazer DNA a little too thin, forcing it on Isuzu dealers. I think it was meant to replace the Trooper.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
;-)
After a few days at it, they suggested that it might be a frayed wire to the ECU caused by collateral damage from my accident a year ago, which annoyed me, but I had to admit the plausibility and call the insurance company who said "whatever; you're covered". A few days later the shop said they said they might be mistaken on cause and covered the whole thing under warranty!
It's impossible to tell you how just elated I am to be back in the demon and out of that land barge! The Mrs., however, is counting the days to the end of the lease, and I admit my confidence was somewhat shaken, but the thing is such a sheer joy to drive, I'm almost over it. She, on the other hand...
Corollary: I wooed her to the Audi lot on Sunday with the intent to lay the groundwork for an A4 Avant next go 'round. She likes the wagon a lot and Audis in general. But the opportunity to test the S4 Avant popped up and I jumped on it, making certain she had a chance to punch it a little herself. End result is a big green light from my beloved CFO on same said Avant when the IS lease is up! I never in a million years thought I could get a project approval like that!
Almost exactly what I thought, too. The convertible, OTOH, which I also spied in black/black/black, gave me an Eclipse GT feeling from the back at a distance (not great; not bad), but the front is just nasty (in a great way).
Now think of the huge (expletive) eating grin on my face.
I know I do...
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Two: 2005 Toyota Matrix
One: 2004 Scion xA
hell i thought its just a concept car ??? or is it more like a pre-production model???
2 2004 Suzuki Forenza
1 2005 Subaru Outback
GT3
Carrera GT
SL65AMG
CL55AMG
A8L
Horses, horses and more horses...
;-)
-Jason
-Scion tCs also on dealer lots, in various colors, none very vibrant.
Both cars looked good but not really all that sporty or distinctive.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
true the front end somehow reminds me of darth vader lol, especially if you have black interior. but its a real head turner, and also the driver, girl about 20-24 yrs old
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I might have seen the same one twice though, as both times it was a red one. I saw the first one close up at a shopping mall, and it was an SXT. But then driving away from the mall, I passed one going the other way (which would be TOWARDS the mall, so maybe it was two different ones)
This one was two-tone black and dark cherry. Interior was dark gray with extremely well polished wood, not plood. It took 4 car wash employees to wipe down and polish the inside and outside. When the driver got in, I could see the steering wheel and gauge binnacle automatically lower and telescope toward him as they adjusted to his seat settings. Amazing.
Since this is a carwash that mainly handles SUVs and family sedans from my neighborhood, it was really surprising to see this big uber-Mercedes amongst the Explorers and Tahoes that surrounded it. The car wash owner knew the driver, so apparently he'd been there before.
Andys120: I saw a French Blue GTO in traffic today. It's a good looking car, but only the 4th GTO that I've seen on the streets since February. 300C Hemis are a lot more common around here.
I am sure the Amanti is a decent car, and offers a lot of bang for the buck. But as you mention, the front end is horrible. I really find it intolerable. It's the illegitimate offspring of an S type, a prev-gen E class, and a little Edsel DNA thrown in for good measure. A real ripoff. I'll take an XG if I want Korean luxury. I find its parallel universe 1970s-esque styling to be much better.
I have yet to see a GTO on the street. A guy about a block away has a Scion Tc, really nice looking car IMO, in charcoal gray.
Isn't that just an XG350?