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I don't have any experience with the "take it or leave it" part of Carcostcanada so can't comment....I've only used their basic costing service (which is great) and then done battle with the dealers myself.
Whichever service you choose, be sure to post and let everyone know how it goes. As I head full-force into middle age (43), I'm finding my personal time more valuable and my desire to "battle" with the dealer is waning. As I said, I will probably use Dealfinder in June, but if you have a good (or bad) experience with "take it or leave it", be sure to share the juicy bits.
Barnee
It will include the MSRP price and the Dealer Invoice and also includes any rebates the dealer will get from the factory for selling you the car and also shows you if there are any incentive programs available from the factory to the customer.
These are very powerful things to know...
You can view a sample invoice on the carcostcanada site and it will break this down for you if you are unsure.
This way the dealer knows your prepared and he it takes the tension off when you try to work out a price.
I asked the dealer if Mazda will riemburse me for the costs incurred to use carcostcanada.com as i read somewhere on the net they can do this?
He said he will look into that for me.
If anyone has heard this too let me know please?
Thanks
The salesman had not heard of the A/C "problem". However, Calgary has few hot days that really tries out an A/C. The salesman said that they do not compete with the Honda Civic when I suggested that Mazda 3 has more competition with the new 2006 Civic. He said that Mazda is competing with BMW and not Honda.
A friend of mine just picked up a 2006 Mazda 3 with the larger engine. (It is a very sharp car, no doubt!) He waited about 3 weeks. His salesman told him the short supply was because of a fire in the Mazda factory in Japan. However, the internet only shows a fire back in December in a factory that does not even build the Mazda 3. . . . so much for car salesmen. Pick your rumor and go with it!
Good luck with your Mazda 3 purchase.
i will share when i get more info.
as far as dealers not having any 06 mazda 3's, i can tell you tehre are alot here in edmonton. i've been to all 3 dealers and they all have tons on their lots. i already have one dealer quoting msrp minus $1000. i dont see any problem with the supply or the "i can sell it for whatever price i want" type of attidute up here. i can't comment on calgary though. i would think they would be comparable markets though.
i wonder if any of you can comment on some of the features of the mazda 3 sport GT version. Edmunds gives some features that i'm not sure if they are avaible to the consumers in canada. can you guys comment? And let me know if they are standard options then because i can't see any other option on teh mazda 3 sport GT other than the moonroof, leather, heated seats package (also known as the luxury package). maybe they are just standard this year.
Bose Stereo
6 CD in dash stereo
ABS
climate control
and does anybody know what the Interior Dash Option is?
thanks all.
TARGET $20,000 for a Mazda GS, Manual with Pwr/SPRT Pkg.
Anyone get a price like this so I can tell him it's been done!?
How did you manage that? I thought everyone paid GST if not PST+GST.
Boy, we could start a forum just dedicated to "car salesman" stories. Hmmm...actually, that's not a bad idea....
:P
We worked out a deal but he only gave me 850 off the car I was shooting for 1000
or otherwise a remote car starter but he would not budge.
Attitude is right. The idiot salesman tried to tell me that mazda will only give him one car a month to sell! These cars are in high demand and they cant produce enough cars as they are there hot item right now for sales. I told him I dont understand his concept of one car a month..... he cant be real! I am sure other people are interested in buying a Mazda 3 Sand Mica Car GS Model ..... what does he do then??? The supply cant meet the demand! What gives there??
I think the guy is full of crap. I cant believe the Mazda dealer told you there was a fire in the factory .... of all the crap outright lies that some of these dealers are capable of!
How silly!
They have one or two Mazda GS models about 4 sports models in his lot right now but not the colour that I want.
I have been waiting since septemeber for my car and looks like I have to wait till end of this month now seeing they sold the other one last month to a quick draw buyer that propably did not ask for any deal on the car. I am unforunate to live in a small town in Northern Ontario and only one Mazda in town. Lucky I like the mazda but if i had the choice would have gone somewhere else to purchase the car. I think I am going to call Mazda down South where my sister lives and see if they would be willing to throw in a remote car starter on top of the deal I am getting here. Maybe that might shake them up alittle bit.
We will see!
Barnee :confuse:
If any Mazda dealer/salesman will NOT acknowledge the A/C issue, go somewhere else. Don't waste your time. Somebody out there is honest and deserves the commission on whatever car you buy.
mandy
If you can somehow unload the Grand Cherokee, try Dealfinder. I'm sure he can get you a way better deal than $300 below msrp. Geez, you could get that deal on your own! The 3 has been around for a few years now, it shouldn't be in THAT short supply.
Good luck.
i agree on the price. i already got $1000 off msrp so there's no way i'll go through car cost canada for that. i'm still glad i asked though, now i know what they came back with.
hey, since you had a blazer, did you miss the space going to a mazda 3? i'm worried that i've pampered myself getting used to the space inside the jeep and going to the mazda might be a shock. what's your experience on that? we have golden retriever so she'd be in the back of the mazda, so unless we get a carrier, the cabin room will be all we have. we have one 10 year old.
If you really wanted to carry both vehicles, one way to do it would be to put the $3000 and the new Mazda on a line of credit. Then you could pay off what you can afford each month, as long as you meet the minimum payback (usually 2-3% of the amount outstanding). Your interest rate on the line of credit should also be quite a bit lower than on a conventional car loan. But as long as you can wait a bit, I'd sell the Jeep first.
I don't have a Mazda 3 yet...still have the Blazer until the lease is up next June. So I can't say much on the space issue. It will be fine for me, but I don't have a dog or a 10 year old. You might miss the space....but as long as your dog and your 10 year old like each other's company and don't mind sharing the space in the back seat...
Do you think i'll get a better deal on the mazda later in the year?
Lol at the backseat comment. The dog would be in the back, hence the need for the hatchback sport version. She wont have as much room as she does on the jeep but she lays down anyway when we're driving so she should have enough space. i will bring her with us to check out hte mazda when we get closer to buying. if it's not big enough i might go to the mazda 6 but i'd rather not. i dont think it has the same "cool" factor lol.
thanks for your opinions on the matter. i feel like either way i can't win. if i sell the truck i'll probably have to do it at a discount, and if i dont sell it i got to get the brakes and tires done and i'll lose money on the gas issue. we spend about $500/mon on gas right now because of a monthly road trip that is unavoidable and the mazda 3 would cut this in half..
mandy
Mazda 3 hub size is 67mm, which will give me around 3mm gap around.
Can anybody help me, if it acceptable to have this gap???? probably the rim will be center by the bolts only....
Has anybody has their winter tire installed yet?
thankx
If I couldn't find wheels that fit (I know they sold out early last year) I would put the snows on the stock wheels -
If the salesman says no, check with the sales manager or see another dealer who is willing to order it this way.
my dealer won't exchange them, they do not provide Mazda part-The delear is intalling Toyota Rim Camry -#69415M.
For any shopper please make sure your hub bore match your spare tire size, which is original Mazda part!!!!!!
by Jeremy Cato
March 7, 2005
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jc/compact2.htm
1. Honda Civic
2. Toyota Corolla
3. Mazda3
4.-5. Pontiac Sunfire/Chevy Cavalier (before Cobalt/Pursuit arrived)
6. Toyota Echo
7. Ford Focus
According to DesRosiers Automotive Consultants, entry-level vehicles now account for 39.6 per cent of new car sales in Canada.
Reasons:
1. Higher taxes/lower disposable income
2. Mostly urban population
3. Higher gas prices
4. Stronger European influence
5. Stronger environmental conscience
Mazda Tribute is a car-based (i.e. fake) SUV that does not have the same appeal to cost- and environment-conscious Canadians as it does in the SUV-crazy US. I can carry almost the same amount of cargo in my Mazda3 hatchback with back seats down, and it looks way better!
Can anything be done about it?!! I don't like setting it to 2 all the time - too noisy!
Its true competition:
- Honda Civic (old: boring.. new: weird..)
- Toyota Corolla (just plain boring)
- in hatchback form: Toyota Matrix/Pontiac Vibe
Not much competition to tell the truth!!
Factory tires are Toyo Proxes 205/55R16 all-season.
Went to Active Green+Ross looking for winter tires... liked Michelin X-Ice but they were above my budget.
The shop guy talked me into this weird deal: Get a set of Michelin X-Ice at a different size (215/60R16) on a set of generic steel rims. He claimed it would not be a problem. This size is wider and taller than original factory tires, but goes on the same size rims. Tire diameter is 26.2" vs 24.9" (32.5 mm difference)
Strangely, they were less expensive than the original size!! ($150 vs $180). Noted they were Q rated vs H for stock tires.. it's slower speed, could this explain the price difference?
Paid $1,073 for 4 tires + 4 rims + taxes + labour (mount, balance etc.) I have not mounted them yet.
QUESTIONS:
1) Will they even fit into wheel wells, if yes, will there be scraping, weird handling etc?
2) Anybody had any experience with this size difference? Is it safe?
shop guy promised to replace them if they don't fit... we'll see!
Moving to fatter (60) tires with steel rims is a good idea for winter driving (and to preserve your alloys). But, increasing the footprint by getting wider (215) tires is not, believe it or not; see below for details. My tire specialist recommended downsizing to 14" from 16" for my Protege5. Not only have they have handled superbly for three winters they are also cheaper and easier to replace. Check your manual for the sizes recommended by Mazda. Finally, make sure that the "promise" is in writing.
Sometimes, you can save money and improve grip by going "minus one." Say your top of the line sports coupe comes with high-performance tires and wheels in the 16-inch size. A tire or auto dealer can cross-check wheel fitment and you may find that the base model of your car comes with steel wheels in the 15-inch size that are less expensive to buy (same for the tires). How can a narrower tire improve road grip? The rule of thumb from experts is that a narrower tire will cut through rain, snow and slush and bear down on the road better than a wider tire, which will tend to float up and over, losing grip in the process. Source:
http://www.canadiandriver.com/winter/tires/winter_tires.htm
well I didn't go "minus 1" in rim size; hopefully a few cm difference in tire profile will still work.
as far as width, my driving will be primarily on plowed roads so shouldn't be too big of a deal. thanks again, the article was informative.
Since we're "remembering", remember personal opinion is not fact. You're right to point out that best-selling doesn't equate to most reliable; however, your opinion of the Mazda3 does not seem representative. Sources like Consumer Reports rate the Mazda3 as reliable; this rating is based on thousands of reports from their 6 million readers. Reliable does not mean that there are no problems but that overall it is a better choice than an unreliable one. Consumers (whereever they are) show good sense when they make reliable vehicles popular.
Should I wait it out? Does Winnipeg suck for bargaining comparatively?
Also - I'm hearing that winter tires a must for this car? True?
Yech, that's tough! How many close (under 100km) to Winnipeg? Having so few choices is not good from a negotiating point of view but also poor for servicing (unless you have an alternative such as an independent garage).
The $500 fee seems unbelievable. Is this the regular freight charge or in addition to it? Just to make sure I understand, if you ordered the car today and it came in a future shipment let's say a month later would the dealer charge you this additional fee? I wonder if the dealer is treating this as a "rush" fee to special order one car by having a driver deliver the car from Vancouver rather than having it shipped with other vehicles by truck. I would not pay such a fee.
2005 Mazda3 Sport GT + auto + air + moonroof
- in titanium = C$25,200 + taxes
- in black or other = C$24,700 + taxes
Do the above prices include freight and PDE (dealer prep)?
Are the above after negotiation for discounts?
2006 Mazda3 Sport GT + auto + air + moonroof
- in titanium = what would be the price?
Since the 2005 is a year old, it has depreciated in value. Typically, cars can depreciate close to 20% in the first year! If you took half of that (10%) as a discount, that would mean that you are looking at somewhere close to C$2500 not C$500. If you think you can manage the negotiation, try going after the car you want (2005 titanium) with no additional delivery and a C$1500 discount, i.e. final price close to $23K. If this is not your style, I would go for the 2006 titanium. You may also want to consider other cars.
Gonna just wait...and calm down a bit. Thanks for your helpful thoughts.