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For Crewmax, 4x4, Limited
Base (42,070) 36,811
20" Alloy Wheels (920) 736
DVD Nav (1,650) 1,368
Daytime RL (40) 32
Sunroof (810) 648
50 state Emiss (0) 0
Add Ons at the Port
Predator Running Bds (599) 449
Front Win Tint (179) 99
Carpet Mat Set (178) 106
Molded Dash Applique Wood Trim (350) 215
Bed Extender (320) 230
Vehicle Shield Pkg with Sound Shield (349) 99
Other Misc
Deliv/Proc/Handling (765) 765
Holdback (841) 841
Interest (420) 420
TDA (995) 995
Dealer Floor Fee (0) 187
Total MSRP with Holdback, Interest, and TDA included is (50,486)
Cost (sum of numbers not on parentheses) is 44,117 (I am actually missing a 116 item on invoice somewhere, and therefore on the MSRP as well, since the sum of these numbers on this list is 44,001)
So compare the 44,001 to the MSRP of 50,486 and then subtract off 80 from the 44,001, since I will make them throw in that pinstripe to compensate for the last minute B.S. Floor Fee of 187 that does not go on MSRP. Then I will be at MSRP 50,486 and my price of 43,921 before the $1,000 off invoice that we had agreed to. That means my price before TTL is 42,921. I could take $4,000 off in my region or 0% interest on up to 60 months financing or 36 months lease. So, I guess if did take the rebate, my cost would be 38,921 (not including TTL) on the MSRP of 50,486. Anyone see any areas I should do better on? I think 1,000 below invoice is a decent deal from what I have read, though, in our region I think the invoice is bloated a bit by the Delivery fee being about $80 above Nat'l average and the TDA being higher than normal from what I have gathered elsewhere.
In the end, after doing the math, I might take the financing instead of the rebate (I have other factors at work here also insofar as running a lease through a company, etc.)
Let me know your thoughts.
I am pretty pleased with this deal......
When I went to the dealer for another test drive and to let them look at my trade they tried to slide in $380 worth of pin striping and dealer license plate holders and such stuff but the offer still stands at 34480. What do you think?
Dan
--jjf
In any event the 14000 from msrp in 12 months puts the 7500 or so off sticker in perspective. They certainly aren't giving the things away. The Chevy may be about the same and a 42000 Dodge Ram is a 20000 vehicle in a year (its msrp is higher)
Good luck
--jjf
I do see your point though, if we had no way of knowing invoice, $X amount off MSRP would be useless. But, we do have a reference (Edmunds and other sources), and can therefore analyze a deal if someone is so inclined to ask for our opinion(s).
Here are the numbers:
2008 Toyota Tundra Limited 4dr Double Cab 4WD SB (5.7L 8cyl 6A) w/ NAV.
MSRP: 42,383.
INV: 38,880.
Offer: 34,480.
I think that puts me about $4,400 under invoice, 3K of which is the rebate, (I'm providing financing.)
I'm probably going to pounce on this deal tomorrow, I just need to see if I can get a great deal on the factory warranty and research if this $399 document fee is legitimate.
Thanks for your advice,
Dan
Doc fees are very useful to surprise walk-ins and others for another 400 in profit who don't know any better. They threaten to walk but most don't, they're exhausted. Dealers usually have the forms printed with the fee on it and for one reason or another given the section of the law they fall under they can get into hassles giving one person a lower fee than another, instead of being consistent. Getting the price 399 or so lower is more practical.
A 7yr 100kmi bumper to bumper warranty should be about 1200 or less. Avoid paying 1800 or 2000 for these regardless of the refund provisions, etc...
Good luck
--jjf
Here is the final deal:
2008 Toyota Tundra Limited 4dr Double Cab 4WD SB (5.7L 8cyl 6A) w/ NAV.
MSRP: 42,383.
INV: 38,880.
Final Offer: 34,480.
7/70/0 Toyota Warranty $900.
Thanks for the help!
D
So, you should be very happy with your deal I suspect. Not sure how to read the extended wty. In all my previous history I have never bought into the value of those, and in fact, have never lived to regret it. But, $900 is not much. I still will likely skip it....
Base; $33,923
NV (nav); $1,368
OF (off rd TRD) $32
P7 (XM redio) $359
Dest $685
PDA $845
Gas $10
HLBK $775
WHSL FIN RES $785 (Is this for real?)
So above is the invoice on an "08" on a special "build" as toyota calls it, the dealers I have dealt with will only go $200 over the above. Most dealers do not want to order/build, one even told me to buy a domestic truck if want special options and colors, white is special with navigation? That Whole sale finacial reserve bothers me, I have never seen that before, is that for real? I do not have the truck yet. Part of the deal is no dealer add ons, no nothing, this is it. Of course on top of this are the insentives. Once again, most dealers told me with insentives it was a below invoice deal. I know for a fact that the Tundra is not selling well and dealers want to get rid of what they have in inventory, so if a person can find what they want in inventory they might get a better deal. I might get the warranty with the truck also, what is invoice on the Toyota warranty?
I love this truck. I was getting cold feet because I was doing all the dealing over the phone for a solid week but I drove it again today before I signed the purchase agreement and this is the truck to end all trucks. Far more luxurious and powerful than my 1997 F-150 Lariat 4X4 with the 5.4 V8, the last truck I owned (and loved). When you sit in the Tundra you really feel like a king of the road, especially if you're a tech dork that likes the bluetooth nav system.
I wasn't able to determine what invoice was on the warranty but I read of someone getting the Tundra 7/75/0 warranty for $790 elsewhere in this lengthy thread. That'd be a good number to aim for, if improbable.
I decided not to go with the warranty when I closed today because when I insured the truck with Geico this morning they told me I get free 7-year mechanical breakdown insurance (a warranty you can take anywhere) with my normal insurance. I asked the Geico representative what the difference was between their (free) warranty and the one I was going to buy from Toyota and they said that I can take my truck anywhere, including the Toyota dealership, for repairs on any component not including normal wear and tear or abuse. Sounds like the toyota warranty to me.
I don't know how good this warranty is but I decided not to include the Toyota one in the financing until I knew more. I bought the truck anyway at $34480 + tags & taxes (approx 36,800 out-the-door price) and it drives like A DREAM! As soon as you get your truck someplace appropriate, turn off the vehicle stability control and floor it. Holy moly.
Don't let them out-negotiate you. With gas prices the way they are you can steal one of these beauties if you out-wait them. There were 48-hour stretches during the last 7 days when none of the five dealers and I were calling each other. Inevitibly, my phone would ring and one of the internet managers would announce a breakthrough with the General Manager and they've managed to come up a thousand on my trade-in, or come down on the Tundra. I let the deal hang for a full day (Monday) over the last $400 bucks, which they said was impossible. I said fine, I was probably nuts to buy a V8 in this market anyway but I couldn't help myself. A day later they caved, threw in rubber floor mats and I gave them my credit card # over the phone to put the truck on hold. Like yours, it's the only one of it's kind in a 5-dealer radius, exact color match and everything.
Also, I did make it a point to visit two of the closest dealers and spend an hour there, and then excuse myself before we could sit down at their desk. I hoped this would make them think I was a more serious buyer. When it came down to people doing numbers over the phone, only the two dealers I visited took the time, the other three bailed as the numbers got more and more favorable to me.
Good Luck,
Dan
Holdback is correct at $775 (2% of base MSRP)
WFR is not correct - should be $387 (1% of base MSRP)
$200 over is a very aggressive price on a special order, given you can find a "reliable" dealer to actually "preference" or submit a "build request." It's not clear, did you get a dealer to put in a build request for you, and if so, did it get approved?
I do understand why a dealer wouldn't want to place a factory order right now, especially on a Tundra. Most dealers can't move their current stock, so ordering a vehicle takes a future vehicle out of (his) allocation. It's much more beneficial to "special order" when a vehicle has a higher demand. If your deal falls through (which they do all the time), the dealer is stuck with one more Tundy that he can't sell, instead of that 4-cyl Tacoma he could've had. Make sense?
Remember: There's gonna' be a trade-off on a special order, you will pay slightly more, but the flip side is you'll get exactly what you want. You have to decide what's more important? You're certainly not being gouged at $200 over if they come through with this deal, and there should be no shame on your side for accepting that deal.
Thanks for the reply, I did find a dealer to order a Tundra with all options posted, for $200 over. I had problems with the build/order with towing mirrors. The dealer I am using kept submiting the order with TM towing mirrors and it kept being returned (this is the reason I am using this dealer as he would work with me on options), this went on for a couple of weeks. I called Toyota and was told, towing mirrors are not available on a Limited in the Denver region, Arizona, and if I want them, buy the truck in California. The dealer has tried, so I will buy the mirrors from parts when I get the truck. I do not have the truck yet, it was built Tuesday (27 May) out of San Antonio. I am told the truck should get here in the middle of next month. What is the going price on the Toyota platinum warranty?
Thanks for the time.
Thanks
thanks!
i was on the lot of a dealer today who had a big sign that said $6,000 off of MSRP on all tundras.
Good luck
--jjf
would be very interested to know if this additional incentive is true. i am in louisiana and i've been on the fence on whether to get a tundra or a honda ridgeline. this would definitely make the decision a lot easier.
i was on the lot of a dealer today who had a big sign that said $6,000 off of MSRP on all tundras.
Sounds like a nice Rig......
Triston
08 Toyota Tundra DBL CAB 4X4 SR5 5.7L
List $34,547.00
Step Tubes - Double Cab $566.50
Bedliner $499.00
Chrome Exhaust Tip $99
Rebates $8500
Sales Price $27,290.50
Tags $24
Admin Fee $299.00
Have any of you gotten lower numbers and how much? I want the best deal possible.
Money is tight and I don't have any to waste.
I'm in the same situation regarding my "free cash" position and I don't want to overpay for a vehicle in these economically uncertain times.
Thanks!
Also do the same with competing Chevy and Ford models. The used truck market for 05s-07s could be astonishing if tried. With all the trade-ins repos and trucks coming off lease one may be surprised at how low below kbb *trade-in* value (not dealer retail) a good lo-mi 07 with remaining warranty could be had.
Good luck
--jjf
It was to be a cash deal and yes it included the business owners discount.
I got a quote for a Tundra Base 5.7L V8 Double Cap Long Bed for $27,142 out of the door including 0% (approved) for 60 months or 24,142 out of the door cash price.
The price before tax and fees is: $25,328 with 0.0 % finance or $22,328 cash price before taxes and fees.
The truck has only 46 miles on it. I drove it and it seems to be fine.
Added options: Tow mirrors, upgrade styled steel wheels, heavy duty battery, starter, etc.
Bed liner, carpets.
I decided to go for the long bed because it fits the large Yamaha Grizzly (82") . Regular bed is only 78". Long bed is 90".
Thats a 30k truck for 20k. Today, I think you can do better.
Also, 3k rebate or 0% financing? If your watching payment, shop interest rates. Banks also getting competative. Get a good low rate AND take the 3k rebate.
(I think the rebates are better than that, check it out) Good luck.
Check out buyatoyota.com and plug in your zip. This will tell you the incentives in your region. Currently, in socal, if you opt for the 0%, there is also an additional $1000 bonus cash. If you bypass the financing, there is a $5500 rebate. You get either or, but not both.
Get me the number on your truck and I'll tell you what I think.
I have a problem with the Tundra. I made some research and found out that bed bouncing is a big problem with the new Tundra. You can watch few films from several Tundra owners documenting bed bouncing. This is the main reason why I am not going to buy a Tundra at this time. I may get the right price but the bouncing problem is a serious issue when driving on concrete pavements.
I am actually considering 2009 FORD F-150. It may be available by the end of this year.
What do you think?
The MSRP is $28,658 It has very few dealer installed options which is good. I feel the car has all the important options installed. Long bed, strong engine, tow mirrors, bedliner, etc.
They may sell it for 20K.