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I am looking at buying an import for the first time since 1980.
I'll probably be buying a 2010 Equinox at the end of the year (or first quarter 2011). Most likely an LT1 or LT2.
I'll see you at the dealership (ha! ha! ha!) ...
Sorry to ramble, but I expected to have a car this weekend and now I may be waiting another couple of months. I am still a little ticked off.
demandask! Also, if you are trading in a car, find out what the trade in value would be now and get it in writing that that is what they will be giving you as if you signed the papers today. You shouldn't loose more money on your trade due to their error. On the bright side, you have 6-8 more weeks to save up a bigger down payment! Good Luck.Can they do this?
Thanks for your response. The dealer is JBA Chevrolet in Glen Burnie, Md. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I have never ordered a car before, always bought off the lot, but I thought I read somewhere that VIN was assigned to my specific order. Mine was (is) a blue LT2 with a sunroof and a couple of other options. I know from looking at car inventories the blue ones aren't just sitting around. Silver and white maybe, but not blue, so I know it stood out. Thanks for the information on the sales rep. We will do that. I know it will be worth it once it arrives, but this is a big convenience. My son is taking my old car and my husband and I planned to let him drive to school and sports practices. Now we are paying a lot for a parking space at school that he can't use and in the worst scenario I will be driving him until the end of school.
Anyway, thanks for the info. I am not a cynical person, but something smelled fishy to me.
I have been reading this forum and pricing the Equinox for a while but this is the best deal I have found.
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2010 Equinox 1LT with Vehicle Interface Package, Power Driver Seat Adjuster and Rear Camera System.
$25,520.00 MSRP
-$1226.00 discount for being a Credit Union member and some additional discount
-$750.00 USAA discount
Total before TTL $23,544.00
Any thoughts?
There's no negotiating on these 2010 Equinoxes. You're either eligible for one or more of the "fixed" discounts (GM Employee, Credit Union, USAA, GM Points), or you're not. Dealers aren't giving any additional discounts. In your case, you've got USAA and the Credit Union discounts, so you're getting around 8% off MSRP.
To me, that's a lousy deal. But in the world of 2010 Equinox "deals", I suppose you should be singing the praises of the Lord!
I am from GM Customer Service. Dealerships are independently owned and operated, and do have the choice to not do the discounts. That is up to the individual dealership. However, you can also check out other dealerships in the area to see if they will honor the GM employee pricing. If you would like me to locate a different dealer in your area I can do that for you. I will need your zip code in order to do that.
Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
I hope you enjoy your new vehicle. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
So I wouldn't say you got ripped off because most dealers just aren't coming down on these because they are so popular and supply is still low. But your deal wasn't great. We were fortunate to get a really good dealer that who flat out told us they don't make much on new cars, and make most of their money on used cars. How they do business proves that, to me at least (the Chevy dealer across town woudn't even honor the Supplier price, much less the conquest cash or taking any more off that). They go for volume on new cars because it helps them get more vehicles from GM and puts them into a higher bracket or whatever.
No offense, but you couldn't be my salesperson because you know that I have GM dollars. I'm sure there are people out there who (for years) have been telling their salesperson UP-FRONT that they have GM dollars and thereby compromising their negotiating position. I remember reading the following verbiage in a GM correspondence years ago: [paraphrase] " .... and remember - you don't have to tell the salesperson about your GM points until AFTER you negotiate your best deal ...". I had to laugh at that.
Capitalism - the art of capitalizing on another person.
Have you seen the latest GM commercial? The old geyser reading the cue-cards is now saying that GM has paid back it's loan to the federal government - get this - 5 years early. But if you caught Meet The Press this weekend, Richard Shelby was saying that's not really true - there is a portion of that loan (amount not mentioned) that GM will NEVER repay.
So GM is already bending the truth. Not a good sign ...
As for the commercial - basically GM repaid their "loan" that came from bailout money with different bailout money (that came from giving govt. their stake in the company). Just fancy accounting, basically. They plan on ridding themselves of govt. ownership later this year through a public stock offering. With that and the "loan" "paid back", the govt. will be out of the company. The union will still have 20%, though.
Of course, I would love an incentive.
I still say production is being held back on purpose. If this continues into the end of this year, I'll have to seriously look at buying a Kia or Hyundai leftover in the first quarter of 2011 (and leaving my GM dollars on the table ... or transferring them to a family member). I betcha with these inflated Equinox prices, I can buy the equivalent Kia or Hyudai at a price that renders my GM dollars irrelevant.
I had my nox for more than 6mon now, it worth the wait, the price is fair as compared to other competing models, although everybody loves incentives, but don't assume you have the best negotiating skills and everybody else's transaction sucks.
I found it a little hard to believe since they had five of them sitting on the lot (one test driver with 300+ miles on it). But then the ones sitting there were, I think, LTZs of various configs, all around $30K+ sticker, rather than the LS and 1LT trims.
They also said they probably won't do a GM Supplier discount for me on the Equinox, so I'm e-mailing other local dealers.
You can point out whatever you want. Where I am, these vehicles are nowhere to be found - and we're almost a year into production now.
Maybe the bulk of production is going to more densely-populated areas first, or areas where there is more money. Maybe I'm in a secondary market. I don't know.
And I haven't said "everybody else's transaction sucks" - as if to belittle their negotiating skills because - there IS NO NEGOTIATING on the 2010 Equinox, fshi. You get what you get based on what discounts you qualify for. That's all there is to it. If GM ever increases production, that might change, but for now - that's the way it is.
Do I really believe GM is holding back production? Well, I'd call it "slowing down production". Drive fast, get into a terrible wreck - and if you survive the wreck, you change the way you drive from that point forward (or, at least, you SHOULD). I think GM got into a terrible "wreck" mass-producing too many cars with defects, the government helped them to recover from it, and now they're taking it more slowly - paying more attention to detail (hopefully) to avoid another "wreck" (which would certainly be fatal for them). So I just think their philosophy this time around might be to be more careful - which is good. But it also means that if the product is popular, the prices remain high (good for them, not so good for us).
And sure - GM would love to "fill every order immediately if they could" (and not lose a single customer), but that would mean stepping on the gas pedal again. They've been there before and we all know what happened. Maybe they're being smarter about it this time around.
It's Black with a Jet Black interior. Only 3,191 miles. Sticker is 35,230, invoice is 33.345 per Edmunds.
If anyone is located near Greenwich, CT and interested in purchasing, let me know.
On May 5th, 2010, I ordered a new 2010 Equinox 2LT FWD with the 2.4l 4-cyl engine, (cardinal red metallic) w/ the optional jet black heated leather seats, and the power programmable lift gate, along with the cargo net, cargo area cover, and the optional trailer hitch.
The dealership is in the Dayton, OH area, although I live closer to the northern suburban Cincinnati area (Maineville,OH.) My "out the door" price on the new car is: $29,538. Delivery was supposed to take 6-8 weeks. No incentives or bonuses. (Still have not gotten a firm delivery date, but the car was supposedly built last week, and the dealer's last estimate for delivery is late this week. Needless to say, I am chomping at the bit. )
A few questions:
1. Did I get a fair price? I am trading in a 2005 Subaru Legacy 2.5i sedan (~72k miles) and am expecting top dollar for my trade based on the condition of the trade (it's virtually flawless.) Knowing they can flip my Legacy very easily, how hard should I press them on trade-in price?
2. Is there anything special I should do (beyond inspecting it with a fine toothed comb,) when I eventually do pick up the car? Do they automatically apply the latest / greatest service bulletins and ECU/TCU programming updates at the factory, or should I have the dealer manually verify that everything is up to date?
3. I ordered the optional "Hitch Trailering Package" - "2010 Equinox Models and includes the Hitch Assembly, Wiring Harnesses, and Mounting Bolts. For 2010 Models, Trailering Fuses and Relays are factory installed and Ball Mount Assembly is sold separately." Has anyone had this option installed by the dealer? How long does it take? I have read (again, on the forums) about problems with the wiring harness needing special programming. What do I need to look out for here? I absolutely want everything to be "done" before I drive off the lot.
Thanks!
David
As for ECU and TCU updates, you could have your dealer check those for you. If it was just built they are probably fine. The factory gets any updates and puts them in new builds a few weeks before dealers get them anyway.
They just opened a CarMax over at Winton Rd and I-275... (I think one in the Dayton area, as well). A couple of days before you take delivery, take your car in to CarMax and they will make an offer for it... The offer is good for seven days... You don't even have to buy a car there... Don't tell the dealership what the offer is... See if they can beat it... If they can't come close (and, you'll have to account for the tax credit on your trade-in), then sell it to CarMax..
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Of course, they totally low-balled me on the trade, but I was a bit surprised how low. I had run the numbers through all the major sites and had gotten anywhere between $7600-$8600 as a fair trade-in...they originally offered $6750. It took me several rounds of the typical back and forth, escalating to the sales manager, listening to his "we don't use those numbers" BS...blah blah blah...to even get them to $7500. Grr. I absolutely hate that crap, but I eventually took the $7500.
I did, however, get a nice little dig in on the sales manager when he asked if my salesmonkey had shown me their mandatory little presentation about their amazing "GlassCoat" paint protector and interior surface protectant "system". (I had already turned it down, flatly.) I couldn't help being amused when he acted completely indignant and stunned that I wasn't willing to pay another $500 for the completely ridiculous upsell, and started trying to put the full court press on. I, interrupted, asking him, "Have you ever seen the movie Fargo?" He said no, but my salesman immediately started chuckling. It might not have totally made up for the hit I took on my trade-in, but I definitely felt a little better about the whole thing. LOL. :P
At any rate, I am closing the deal tomorrow evening, and actually picking up my new ride on Friday (which is when the hitch I ordered when I ordered the car will be in for them to install and program the harness, as well as detail the car.)
I can't wait! Thanks for all your help.
Steve (NJ)
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