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Saab 9-3 Prices Paid and Buying Experience
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However, given that both the Linear and the Arc have the same history, shooting for the same price on the Arc is not uncalled for- you wanted a Linear after all, and had to settle for an Arc.
Can I get all three, or is there a limit on this?
I'm going today, please help ASAP.
Thanks!
Good Luck!
Sorry for the cross-post -
Just got an '08 Combi that had everything we wanted at a great price. Well, everything except the roof rails... Not the crossbar type rack, just the parallel to the body roof rails.
Can I get these installed by my dealer without butchering our beautiful new car? In other words, would getting them installed at the dealer be as invasive as say, an after-market sunroof?
I'd really like to get the rails to get more of the vibe of our old '02 9-03 hatchback.
Thanks!
Saabs depreciate faster then any car on the planet in the first few years, then they seem to slow down, because "it's a Saab".
Don't forget about the CPO's.
Can you tell me where are you located? What color is the exterior/interior? The $25k OTD sounds like a good deal.
I got a quote for $26k OTD on a 07 2.0T sedan with smoke beige exterior and beige interior. Automatic, moonroof, and cold weather package. I was ready to go sign the purchase papers tomorrow until I saw your posting.
Please let me know your location and if you did buy the car at $25k OTD. Thanks.
"Saabs depreciate faster then any car on the planet in the first few years, then they seem to slow down, because "it's a Saab."
Take into account that your $"32k" price tag was really closer to $27,000 to $28,000 with the incentives that were given at the time. The reason that Saabs depreciate so fast is because it is so closely competing against the new car deal.
Why would someone buy a year old car for 23k or 24k (and have a $500 payment) when they can either buy a new one at 26-28k or lease a new one at $400-$500?
Consumers always want to compare it to sticker and not the price they paid.
Thats why is starts to slow down after the first 3 years or so.
The clincher with Saab is that they offer better warranties on the used ones then on new ones which is not the case with other makes.
I am not against buying new.....in fact, I just did purchase a new car. But stictly financially speaking, buying used is always smarter. But, leasing changes things.
The payment does not tell the whole story. But, it is America, and that is all 99% of the consumers seem to care about. If someone looks at a car like a rental and wants to get rid of it every two years, then leasing is the only option.
The last point about Saabs is that once they get some age on them, they seem to actually hold their value better then most other brands. At least what I see where I live is that no matter of miles, if it is a clean 4WD or a Saab, they seem to always get money. But for someone leasing, why should they care.
And most all the manufactures offer better certified pre-owned warranties than they do new (most all have 6yr/100k certified used and 4yr/50k new). The idea is to give the dealers as many reason to buy them when they come off lease so the manufacturer doesn't have to take their beating sending them to the auctions.
I will agree with you that MOST of the time it make much more fiscal sense to buy used than new, but there are exceptions to very rule.
We got rid of ours after owning it for two years and driving 15K miles on it. Long story short, we got rid of it because we kept having serious electrical problems with the car. The worst part was that the battery died on us after two years of ownership. When we called the Saab roadside assistance people, they sent out a couple of cars and it took 9 hours to jump start. Why did it take so long? According to the Saab service people, the car is designed not to be jump started since the car has so many delicate electronics - funny how Lexus, Mercedes, BMW and other don't seem to have such "delicate electronics." So, basically it was a design flaw - I say this because the tow truck people didn't really know of this "feature." Don't want my newborn and wife getting stuck in the middle of nowhere with a car that can't be jump started.
Anyways, when we went to go sell the car, the Lexus dealer called the Saab dealer to see if they would buy the car. The Saab dealer told the Lexus dealer that they would not buy the car since, presumably, they probably couldn't sell the car. On the other hand, as long as the Lexus dealer didn't pay more than $15K for the car, they'd be fine... a car that two years ago we bought for $40K+ - talk about a disaster for a depreciation. We will never buy another GM vehicle - much less a Saab ever again.
BTW, my wifey likes to leave the keys in the ignition for some dumb reason which has killed the battery twice. Both times I called Saab roadside. Both times they came and jumped the car in seconds using standard, run of the mill jumping equipment. I think the last guy that jumped it was nammed "Bufford" and I think he just got out of bed eventhough it was 3 in the afternoon.
There is nothing special with jumping a Saab with a dead battery. A battery is a battery.
The last GM vehicle I owned previous to this was a Suburban....and put 100k miles on it. It was NEVER in the shop....not once except for oil, tires, and brakes. The first set of rotors did not go on it until 65k. When I got rid of it, the only thing that did not work was the electronic compass on the rearview mirror.
Meanwhile, the guy across the street is undergoing lemon law proceedures against Honda. The car is in the shop more then it is on the road due to a suspension design flaw that can't be fixed. Go figure.
While I can relate to your family concerns and know all too well the pain associated with loosing a child, Saab makes one dam safe car. I feel very confident in mine and one of the reasons we own it.
It was unfortunate your luck was bad and you feel the way you do. I really can't find fault with Lexus as this brand is a great choice.
As a Saab owner, I don't place Saab in the same playing field as many of the other luxury brands.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ee9c851/34544
Sad....very sad, indeed if you ask me.
Go to the last page.
I would try to get invoice price, and then subtract the $4000 from that.
I recently purchased a vehicle that had no rebates, but had $5500 in factory to dealer cash. I tried to buy the car from 4 different dealerships. One of them flat out told me how much money there was w/o me even asking and graciously deducted it from the 1% under invoice price.
Two of the other dealers when asked by me simply stated that there was some money to "play with" but never disclosed the amount. The last dealer outright denied that any money existed even after telling them that I had confirmed this fact with a different dealer. They were either not aware, or chose to not allow me to have the money.
The third type of "rebate" I become aware of only after having a friend who was a finance manager for a Mistubishi dealer. He claimed that Mitsubishi would give them special incentives for moving a certain number of vehicles in a specified period of time. If they did, they got cash back or even a "free" car from the manufacturer. The numbers were rather large if I recall....something like 25 - 30 cars in a short period of time....something that only a big volume dealer could do.
He further indicated that if you caught the dealer at the correct time such as perhaps needing to sell one or two more cars in a day or two in order to get the big bonus, the dealer might extend closing incentives to the customer.
All this makes trying to get the best deal possible hard to do. At some point, you just need to buy the thing and not look back. Apparently everyone must get a great deal anyway because I have never heard anyone ever say that they got screwed - lol
If so I'd rather just wait to get the CPO warranty.
Try asking them if they'll CPO it for you.. Or maybe they're not CPOed because they wouldn't pass the inspection.
You can however buy a extended warranty or have one included in whatever price you negotiate.
I recently purchased a new 2007 9-3 SportCombi.
$32400 (msrp)
- $1k (gm supplier discount--I bet anyone could get this with a big of haggling)
- $650 (extra negotiation)
- $5500 (GM '07 incentive--remember this comes off *after* taxes!)
I had to find a dealer that was willing to search national inventory for the car I wanted. My local dealer only seemed interested in selling what was on the lot.
The car is great so far, I feel the price was good. I don't worry about depreciation, I hope to keep this car 8 years. Without the incentive I think these cars are horribly over-priced.
driven 5000 miles by the owner's wife, has the balance of the warranty, and
has been on the showroom floor since September '07. I've been looking at it
since last summer. A few weeks ago, the salesman called me and told me they
were taking an additional $2000 off for president's week. The deal I made totaled
$15,0000 off the purchase price - $7,000 from Saab and $8,000 from the dealer.
I sat down with the car salesman, he gave me a price of $38,600 including tax.
I told him I couldn't go over $35,000 total. He came back in in about five minutes
with a price of $35,600. (I may still get another $500 discount from going to a local
auto show - we will be closing the deal in a week.) I told him I'd take the car for
$35,600. I was so surprised at how much he came down in price and how easy
the deal was to make. Now I'm wondering if I could have gotten more off if I
played harder. What do you think? The car is just exactly what I've wanted for years. Judy
I'm getting a home equity loan through my credit union. That takes 2 - 3 weeks.
I'll actually be purchasing the car, closing this deal, March 4. So my paperwork does not need to be backdated. My salesman is going to report the car through GM's retail delivery system by the 29th, so we're covered. There is an auto show in my area that is also tied to the $500 rebate. I'm not second guessing my decision on buying a saab. It is what I have wanted. I believe I got a good deal. What made me question it is after the sale, I asked the salesman if these end of the year sales always had this much of a discount, and he said it's not unusual. So that's what made me wonder if I could have got more off, not to sound greedy, but I'd rather have the money in my pocket than theirs. I've never had a saab before, that's why I decided to ask this question on the saab forum.
April to mid November, then put my 4-runner back on the road. Yes, I did receive
the $2,000 loaner discount, and I did know that the warranty period will be shorter.
The salesman was great and very upfront about everything. I've bought several
new cars (usually end of the model year), but this negotiation was by far the
easiest one. It took all of ten minutes. Also, I do know a mechanic that works
there - maybe that helped! Judy
Audio system with Navigation
Automatic
Cold weather
Moonroof package
Premium package
MSRP: $37,010.00
There is 3500.00 rebate and an another 2000.00 incentive for buying.
I was thinking of asking for 31,000.00
Wanted to know what you all think of that price.
Thank you.
I'm asking because I may soon be in a similar situation with a Saab I want sitting across the country. Thanks.
The car was trucked from another dealer (in Philly I think). I had to pay the shipping fee and a small deposit before the transfer happened.
Nobody bought the car from the original dealer in Philly. Dealerships have arrangements where they can transfer stock to one another. Not sure what this involves for them (doesn't much matter to me). As I said, it cost a couple hundred to have the car shipped.
My local dealer (in Columbus) was not interested in finding a specific car nationally. I suppose this varies by dealer. Dealers in Cincy and Cleve. were interested.
Hope that helps.
Thanks.
Yury
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Yury
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My husband and I just bought a new 2008 9-3 2.0T 4 door sedan today with metallic paint, moonroof, and cold weather package. We weren't fussy about the cold weather package, but I guess that's how they come in the Northeast. Anyway, Edmunds has been an invaluable resource in this whole car buying experience. I just wanted to contribute to the community on what we paid for our new car. I wished more people had posted their prices when I was in my search. Anyway, we paid $27,554 plus a $175 documentation fee + tax + registration. Hope that info helps for anyone in their hunt. We did our buying online requesting quotes from any dealer in a 75 mile range (which happens to be quite a few for where we live) and went with the lowest quote. It was a painless process and we couldn't be happier with our new car. Thanks again everyone.
Is this good deal? It seems people get the rebate or incentives average to 4K or 5K from either SAAB or GM, but I tried so hard to negotiate just up to $3.7K.
Maybe it's in the middle of year, not at year-end.
any opinion, thanks in advance.