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Grommet I have not talked to my Marketing Manager yet she has not been by lately but I will ask her about that next time she is in.
That being said, their reliability statistics are taken from readers, not the vehicle they test. I would think twice about poo-pooing a statistically significant survey when your comparison data is "I have one and it works great."
As I have said before, if you love LRs and can put up with the downside, like lots of shop time for many, than get one. Obviously, there are many people like that here. But don't kid yourself into believing that LR and Toyota are on the same reliability spectrum.
Regards,
Tom
I researched to the "Nth" degree on the Land Rover, Volvo XC90 and the Jeep Commander. I went to the San Francisco International Auto show Thanksgiving weekend so I could look, yet once again, at all three vehicles and make comparisons.
The LR3 fit my needs the best. I know that there are people here who have had trouble and those who have had a wonderful experience. I'm willing to take the chance because I really like the vehicle.
I sincerely believe that life is too short to settle on a vehicle that you just "like" because you think that another brand that you "love" might break down. If I have a lot of trouble with the new vehicle, I'll just get rid of it.
Toyota and Nissan products just don't do it for me, I know they are excellent vehicles but I like the more distinctive looks and clean lines of the Land Rover.
So, I'll be joining the "Land Rover Club" here at Edmunds and will report back with my experience of ownership.
Mark
That is why they call it predicted reliability. So it is not based on actual LR3 Owners. I would love to see how statistically significant this prediction is....
I have recently cancelled my subscription to CR, not because of this review, but because they no longer provide the same detail as they used to and they have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to electronics. Back in the day they were great for cars and appliances, but I think they have failed to adapt to the changing times.
Regards,
Tom
I didn't notice the pin stripe that runs front to back just above the door handles. It's a creamy color that matches the interior. I swear it wasn't there when I drove it but I could be mistaken. I just have to get used to it.
They ordered the wood for the dash today; I picked out the color and it will be custom made for the LR3. I think the warmth of the wood will really set off the interior.
I'm just pleased as punch (southern term) about this purchase and the salesman was wonderful.
I'll post in the "prices paid" section when I get a chance (have to pull the paperwork out).
Happy motoring, Mark156
PS. Grommett, my main home is in Tennessee and I also have a place in the southern California desert.
The wood will arrive in about 10 days and I will take it back for installation.
For those who wanted to know the deal that I got, here it is. (I couldn't find the prices paid forum for the LR3)
2006 Land Rover LR3 HSE, Java Black Pearlescent, Alpaca Beige leather, Cold climate pkg, Heavy Duty pkg.
List $55,525.00
options added:
wood dash 750.00
mats 225.00
TOTAL MSRP $56,500.00
Trade $20,000.00 (2002 MB ML500, 47,800 miles)
Discount $2,375.00
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final price
before taxes
and flees ----- $34,125.00
Mark
[edit] lol, you're too fast for me!
Steve, Host
Mark :shades:
Enjoy the new ride!
Steve, Host
had my gas tank changed out last week and so far so good, but today when i filled up with gas for the first time since the change, the hose came off the filler neck.
i had the gas hose on with the clicker/auto filler handle holder on and when it finished and clicked off, it popped off and out of the gas tank filler neck to the ground. this is where i usually fill up and i usually do the auto-fill thing, so just curious if anybody else has had this happen to them as it did make a mess and could have also scratched the car as it fell to the ground. was this just a weird accident or is something now different with the gas tank filler neck????
My Rovers had no issues while the Benzes and Toys were a pain-in-the-[non-permissible content removed], so you never know...and my 99 DII was the worst vehicle ever built...
Next day it ran very hard, no leaks, seems like the problem is fixed.
You can ask your dealer to do the same.
Good luck.
Goodyear Wrangler HP's, also.
I have been waiting to hear how you liked your test drive. I have been following your reviews on the different boards because I am comparing the same vehicles.
Glad to hear you loved it. I also like the Jeep a lot, but the LR3 offers so much more. i.e. Room, luxury, etc.
Don't forget to let me know what the dashboard looks like at night. I have got to know!
I need third seat room. The Volvo was better than the Jeep but not by much. When the Jeep's third seat is folded down, the floor is rather tall. I also need good storage when the third seat is folded down. You would not believe the storage space in the LR3. It is enormous!
I also like the way the third seats lock in place providing a totally flat area. If anyone is in the third seat, they are able to get out on their own. In my ML, I had to "let" them out. In the LR3, there is a latch on top of the second row seat to bend the seat over then there is a loop to pull at the bottom of the seat to allow it to flip up allowing a person to exit. This can be done on either side as the second row is divided 35/30/35.
I may have the sunroof glass tinted darker as there is not a solid cover to keep the sun out. The "shade" that you pull to close the sunroof is made of a material that has small holes in it. It's that way for all three sunroofs as each row has their own. Only the front one opens.
As far as the dash, I don't find anything unusual as it seems nice. I'm glad that the radio and navigation are on separate systems. The ML had them together.
Another neat feature is the key fob... you have a choice as what you want the "Land Rover" emblem to do. There is a button to unlock the doors as there is one to lock them. The Land Rover emblem can be programed to do three things.
1) It will illuminate the front headlights with on hit, a second hit will then light up the reverse lights.
2) You can programme (British spelling :P ) the fob to activate the burglar alarm.
2) Or, you can select for the LR3 to raise or lower. If you press on the Land Rover emblem and the 'Lock' feature at the same time, the vehicle will raise, if you press the 'unlock' feature in conjunction with the Land Rover emblem, it will lower.
SO, you have a nice choice on what will work for you. I selected to have the lights come on. There is a lever on the inside console that will allow you to raise or lower the vehicle which I like better. The "lighting" feature works for me better than the other choices.
Mark :shades:
Anyway, yes, you are correct, the flashers have to be operating to use the key fob suspension for raising/lowering the LR3. I'm still reading the manual and learning more and more.
When the turning signal is on, occasionally, it will make a warning noise which I assume to let you know it has been left on. I wish I could turn off that feature. I'll have to check in the manual to see if it's a choice.
I really like the feel of this vehicle; the ride, steering, etc. It feels very solid.
Mark
That is the service I paid for when I bought this truck. If you don't receive it at your dealership, tell them to step it up!
Anybody else having problems with this pump? We are at about 45k miles.
The leg room is excellent in my opinion. The 3rd row can handle 6' adults fairly comfortably. However, "wide" folks may not be too comfortable in any of the rear seats. This is not a Suburban or an Escalade; it's the same size (externally) as a Ford Explorer. It's just very efficient, partially due to the boxy design.
Keep in mind, if I'm not mistaken, that the Escalade will not have "fold flat" third seats. If it's like the previous design, they will flip over but not flat.
That was the strong selling point for the LR3 for me, the full size third seat and when it's folded, I have a huge area to carry things and the seats are completely hidden. And, there is a cover to hide everything.
I like the new pics of the 2007 Escalade, it should be a wonderful seller. If I have a lot of trouble with my LR3, the Escalade might pop to the top of my list.
Mark
I'll try and pay more attention when this happens to see if it's from something else.
Mark
Mark
I am thrilled to hear you are so happy with it. The XC90 was also high on my list, but I think that the LR3 offers so much more.
Another car I really like was the VW Touareg. What a great ride also, but we need the 3 rows with our family and I was scared of the problems that I have been reading about.
I am waiting to see if LR is going to offer any end of 2005 incentives and I then I am going to get one myself.
Good luck with it!!!
Thank you,
Shawn :confuse:
Oh same housing but differnt functionailty..mmmm. I remember seeing some early build SE's that did not have the "ball housing" look, but just a simple headlight housing look (Same as current V6 headlights). That is what confused me!
There are 3 levels of lighting, with Adaptive only being available on HSE. (Optional in '05, forced on you in '06.)
The Bi-Xenon headlights aren't Adaptive at. They are just auto-leveling... they don't actively move "up and down." Anyway, personally I can't tell much of a difference in the real world.
The SE Model I am considering has all but Nav, Adap. Lights, and cooler box (as well as the upgrade in stereo, seat Mem & 19" wheels that are standard on the HSE)
The HSE model steps up with all but the heavy duty package but weighs in at 5k more. I have seen a few nav comments on the board, but none that really help make the decision. I have seen many factory Navs that aren't worth $750 let alone $2500,and does the stereo upgrade/adap. lights really add value?
Is the HSE package really worth the extra 5k?
Thanks in advance.
Sean
Will you use/need Navigation? Do you travel a lot? I already commented about the Adaptive headlights, which I do have, in the previous message; I don't think it adds much. I'm sure some think it's "cool." The HSE stereo isn't much better than the SE one; both are lacking from a "high-end" point of view. Of course, it's subjective.
I just purchased a 2005HSE7. I went for the HSE because of the Navigation (off road capabilities and I travel alot), 8 way power seat and memory instead of 6 way, 550watt stereo, and hopefully better resale since HSE7's are harder to find (at least right now). Mine does not have the adaptive headlights. I also prefer the 19 wheels. I do offroad alot so I hope the 19 inch wheels do not prove a mistake. I currently own a 99 DiscoII seven seat. I have 3 girls under 6 so, thats I went 7 seater
Right... I've driven one with non-Adaptive headlights and it doesn't seem to help that much over the Bi-Xenon. Yes, it pretty much looks the same externally just sitting there.
I'm starting to see more HSEs, since almost all recent '06 builds for here were HSE...
Thanks for the response. I do travel quite a bit, but typically know where I am going. My main concern is the quality of the nav in the HSE, since many factory installed models are so basic and come with a high price tag (IE I can pay 600 for a garmin with a 20 gig hard drive that reroutes me when their is traffic congestion). So if the other features that come in the HSE package are really not worth it (IE stereo, ice bucket and adap. lights) and the nav is just so so, then I would most likely opt out for an after market nav. I think I saw a post from someone who has one? any feedback appreciated.
Thanks!
It won't reroute automatically because, well, there is no way for it to know if there is congestion. That feature isn't common in North America; the cars that do have it seem to use satellite XM Radio traffic info, which is a pay service. You can tell it to reroute, though.