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From the website, it (aparently) looks like only the Nokia 6230 can dock in the cradle. Don't buy one from this site though - the prices are exhorbitant.. you can get a new 6230 unlocked off of ebay for less than half what they are aksing on that site.
/DA
When I returned from my longer-than-expected-weekend-in-VT-while-waiting-for-my-replacement-tire-to-be-s- hipped-from-OHIO :mad: trip, I brought the LR3 in for service to have the suspension compressor replaced by the new model part. Note to "29 days"...I accomplished this by calling Land Rover NA in New Jersey and escalating to the VP of customer service...this got my part on a priority ship list to my dealer and earmarked for me. I encourage you to use a "polite squeaky wheel" method for these remediation issues. It works.
About 1000 miles of metro/suburban NY driving later--no suspension faults. I'll keep you posted but I'm feeling good about it.
As for the full-sized spare...now my gas mileage is even worse The sensor read 40mph to go on the Merritt Parkway in Greenwich the other day...by the time I got to the Westchester Airport (where I figured there'd be gas at the car rental return) I was at 0. Poor me! It was almost 10 miles up to Exit 3 on 684 to gas and I ALMOST made it. Luckily, roadside assistance was sweet and not-at-all condescending as they dispatched my rescuer and 5 gal of gas . I'm posting in public so that no one can blackmail me on this to my husband. (I won't tell him if you won't!. Yeah! Roadside assistance! I may be an idiot, but I'm an upscale, Land-Rover-driving idiot!)
Try Hertz:
Hertz Press Release
I think you get more options for your money for the LR3, but frankly the posts I've read here are starting to scare me away (Air suspension, front end looseness, steering wheel issues, etc) I know every car has it's ups and downs.. but the air suspension issue a lot of people are posting sounds like a scary one.
Another issue that came up when I was talking with my wife is the selection of colours... the LR3 has only 2 interior selections... and 8 paint colours? Cayenne's got 11 exterior, and 9 interior choices.. not a big deal, but I want a brown leather interior with silver exterior - silver and Beige don't quite sit well with me (IMO).
In either case, it's a hard decision for sure.. and I appreciate everyone's responses very much.
Thanks to all,
Don
Go with the car the fits your lifestyle and gives you that "mmmmmmmmm" feeling when you see and drive it. We currently still have are 99 Disco II 133,000 miles. Land Rovers give me that "mmmmmmm" feeling plus with three kids under 7 years old, we camp, we explore the Sierras, or any dirt road in the west. If my LR3 has issues it goes in the shop,"under warranty", and I deal with it!
Other than that, I've only got the Canadian winters and screwy road conditions to deal with...
My wife and I have got a really hard decision ahead of us.. One of the other factors is that the LR3 is a (relatively) new body and platform, while porsche is doing a new redesign for 2007... I don't really want to get into one now, and have it look dated within a year..
LR has an appeal because they don't overtly change body and platform styles all that much over time, so even if you have an older model, it is difficult to distinguish from a new one (for non-experts, of course.. )
Does anyone have an estimate or idea of what the sales numbers are for a LR3 and Cayenne in the North American market?
/DA
Yesterday when my wife was pulling away (2005 HSE7, it looked like her left rear tire was not setting at a right angle to the pavement;it looked like the top of the tire was tilted-in. Do you have any thoughts or history with what I am observing? :confuse:
When the LR3's are sitting low because of the nature of the air suspension in the rear the tires will sometimes sit at funny angles. But they should move back when the air suspensioni goes up.
White, Black (or anything dark for that matter), red.
So far silver appeals to me the most (I know, EVERYONE gets silver - but when it gets dirty you really can't tell - is it silver, or just a darker silver?)
Just curious if anyone can comment on the interior - is the black interior (carpets, leather, etc) hard to keep clean? I've got two (small) dogs that shed a lot(a lot like big dogs :surprise: ) , and the rear seat covers are looking like a good option...
/DA
Thanks!
Don
/DA
1)If you get tan then I can tell you where to get custom fitted seat covers for all seven seats because Land Rover only makes water proof seat covers that are dark gray/black (www.autoseats.com).
2) To protect the hatch area I purchased a cargo protector & tailgate cover from www.hatchbag.com. Love it!
3) Also www.caninecovers.com has some great options.
4)I purchased the Land Rover rubber floor mats, then I hand cut clear car mats to cover the carpeted areas that were not covered by the Land Rover mats.
5) I know your dogs are small, but you should check out the dog cage options that Land Rover offers..pretty trick.
I appreciate it!
/Don
Has anyone parked their LR3 for a week or two or more and had their battery die or have you parked it without a problem?
Even our showroom LR3 with people opening doors and stuff normaly has enough juice for at least two weeks before it dies if not longer.
Anybody else have one die or let one sit for weeks with no problem?
I asked why they don't just pressurize the air springs and then stay off and he said they constantly adjust the pressure to level the vehicle, even in turns while driving. He said the problem was on BMW too and all the high end Mercedes.
This does't make lots of sense to me since you could never pump up the air springs fast enough to react while driving and the difference in high altitude atmosphere vs. low altitude is small in comparison to the pressure in an air spring.
When does the pump in the LR3 run? Just to change the ride height and occaisional load leveling? Or does it run frequently. Can you hear it if it were to run while driving along?
By the way, I might need to change my user name from lr3maybe to lr3onorder. I ordered one so I could get it my way (V8,SE,silver/alpaca,Cold Climate, Heavy Duty, Lighting Package).
On your test track you can actually see that the vehicle is not tilted as much as the landscape.
I'm sorry that you have not had good luck, it can happen with any vehicle. :sick:
Mark
I travel a lot so mine tends to sit for weeks at a time and so far no issues. I do keep a battery jumper/air compressor in the back though. So far I have only used it to help others.
It now shows the G4 raised air intake and rear ladder :shades: , along with numerous chromed parts :surprise:
The "useful" stuff...
G4 Raised Air Intake (Snorkel): ADL780010
G4 Rear Ladder: AGP780020
Underbody Protection Shield: KRQ500010
The "bling" stuff...
Chrome Mirror Caps: VUB503880MMM
Body Side Moulding with Bright Finish (Chrome): DGJ500011MMM
Chrome Finish Door Waist Rails: BHR780310
The "bling" stuff I don't have the part numbers for, yet...
Chrome Finish Air Intake: N/A
Chrome Finish Tailgate Trim: N/A
Chrome Roof Rails: N/A
There might be a few more accessories added the the list, but these are the more significant ones. (Other regions may also have items we won't be offered... like OEM 19" Chrome Wheels & Painted Wheel Arch Moulding for select colors.)
FYI: Not all these items are orderable yet.
Car has been rock solid in extreme heat and cold, off road and on. While initially ticked off with a few foibles and the stalling problem, now we're very satisfied with the performance of the LR3, esp in cold snowy weather. Tires still suck though... LR needs to get with tire companies and get real offroad tires available for 18 and 19" wheels.
However, this manual procedure may work:
* Press and hold the trip reset button.
* Turn the igntion to position II
* The display should flash SERVICE for 5 seconds and then display SERVICE constantly.
* Release the reset button with 10 seconds, and you'll see "OIL" on the display.
* Within 10 seconds, hold down the trip reset button for more than 5 seconds and the oil counter will be reset. (If you hold for less than 5 seconds, the reset will be skipped.)
* Repeat the last step for "INSPECT" and "DATE", for Inspection Service and Date Service, respectively.
(If any of these indicators are disabled, they won't be displayed.)
The current Land Rover models imported into the US are Land Rover LR3, Land Rover Range Rover and Land Rover Range Rover Sport.
Confused yet?
That being said go drive an LR3 and then drive a Disco back to back you can't even compare the two.
Any ideas would be appreciated.
The station wagon the XC90 is based off is a great vehicle, however; the conversion process that turned that station wagon into a SUV ruined the vehicle. You have too much weight being moved around by a drivetrain/platform combo that is not up to the task.
Amen to that, although I'd direct it at the LR3 rather than the Volvo. XC90: 311 HP, 4610 lbs, 7.6 sec 0-60. LR3: 300 HP, 5426 lbs, 8.9 sec 0-60. Different sources for the two acceleration runs, so they may not correlate 100%, but you get the idea. The LR3 may have a lot going for it, but reliability and on-road performance don't make the list.
CPP
In addition the LR3's platform was designed from the beginning to be that heavy. All of the components were taken in as a whole and designed to work with that level of GVW.
The XC90 was not. The platform of the XC90 was not designed to be a seven passenger SUV from the beginning.
Curb weight for the V70, the XC90 is based on this platform, is 3,488 lbs. Gross Vehicle weight seems to be 4,740 lbs.
Curb weight for the XC70 is 3,699 lbs.
Curb weight for the XC90 is 4,610 lbs if you get the seven passenger model.
That is a lot of extra weight on the chassis just with no passengers. The Gross vehicle weight rating for the 7 passenger model is 6,080 lbs.
So the GVWR is about 31% more then the curb weight of the XC90 and about 74% more then the curb weight of the V70. You think that is maybe too much stress on the same platform? Yeah you can add things to increase the strength of the platform somewhat but that is a huge increase in GVWR from the original.
Curb weight of the LR3 is betweeh 5,426 and 5,796 lbs with a GVWR of 7,121 lbs. I will use the higher number since it is for a V8 LR3 with seven passenger just like the XC90 curb weight is for a V8 powered 7 passenger.
That comes to a 23% increase over curb weight for the LR3.
Sounds like a lot less strain put on a chassis that is probably stronger anyway since it is a integrated body/frame design(basicly a hybrid of the traditonal uni-body/monocoque for cars and the traditonal body on frame design for trucks) versus the unibody design of the XC90.
Then if you want to talk about maximum tow weight the XC90 is 5,000 lbs verus 7,700 lbs for the LR3. Now I personaly would not want to tow any where near the maximum weight for either one but the rating says you can. If I am going to tow that much weight I am going to get a real tow vehicle with a diesel.
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Replying to: skimbear (Jan 27, 2006 5:01 pm)
As far as I have read, there are mixed feedbacks from V8 owners. Some experiences are wonderful, and some are just plain scary.
There are several dedicated Volvo chat sites. You will find some info there. I don't think edmunds.com allows users to post other chat sites, so I won't list the web addresses.
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