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The noise is louder than the factory tires but I suspect not as loud as the factory tires would have become in another 5 to 10K miles - they were getting louder. It is not objectionable and I usually drive with the windows open.
Jack
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David
Perhaps the guy from teh dealer who is on here can answer. i would go with and LR extended warranty. Who needs the hassle of some third party leveraging risk.
The only time I have seen a failure like that is when someone was talking on a bluetooth cellphone connected to the vehicle and they tried to switch a call with call waiting.
It has only happened three times in the three years they have had bluetooth phones in Land Rovers but every time that was the problem. It doesn't seem to happen every time you try and switch calls with call waiting but it does happen sometimes.
The remedy has always been to completely disconnect the phone from the car. You do this buy going into the bluetooth menu on your phone and shutting the connection down. Then shut off the car and let it sit for about 10 minutes. Once you restart the car everything should be fine.
As an aside, to have the vehicle towed I called Land Rover Roadside Assistance. The driver of the first tow truck they sent stated he was not equiped to deal with an electrically disabled 4-wheel drive vehicle and left. I called Land Rover Roadside Assistance a second time and they said they would send a second tow truck. However, a short time later Roadside Assistance called me back and placed me in a 3-way conversation with the second tow truck driver to negotiate with the driver for him to come assist. Eventually, he did. Overall, a very poor performance by Land Rover Roadside Assistance.
Referring back to the first response about Bluetooth phones: some of the quirkiness of bluetooth operations have to do with that technology and are not unique to Land Rovers. I use my Motorola Razer with my LR3. The only quirk I noted is that the phone stays locked in to the truck after I stop the engine until I walk at least 10 meters away from the truck. That's great if you want to complete a conversation without idling the engine for a long time. But, if I get a call while I'm standing outside the LR3, I can't answer on the cell phone because the call is routed through the LR3. That's not a Land Rover problem, and I can live with it. If you're old enough to remember the days before cell phones, this bluetooth stuff is nothing short of magic. I'm thrilled to have the phone synch with the LR3 as soon as I unlock the doors, and to have hands-free cell phone capability while I'm driving. My wife says she can't tell the difference in sound quality. What more could you ask for?
A separate screen comes up and asks if you want to switch the call to Land Rover, iPhone, iPhone external speaker. It is really a great idea because instead of being unable to answer the call when outside the car or stuck inside the car waiting to finish a call.
Just select iPhone, or external speaker and the call will switch instantly.
knock on wood Im at 25000 miles on my LR3 SE7 and the thing is great. no problems less tire wear on the original GYs. Have Michelins now and tires are wearing fine. (oh and I am rotating at 5k)
In a more trivial, but annoying issue, the rear hatch lock had not released correctly since I obtained the vehicle. Since the LR3 was in for service with the electrical failure, I asked to have the rear hatch release fixed. When the vehicle was returned the lock released correctly 3 times. After that it became intermittant, and within a day did not work at all again.
Thus, my "Land Rover Experience" has been Land Rover Roadside Assistance sent a tow truck unequiped to deal with a disabled Land Rover and a second company had to be sent. The service department at Land Rover North Scottsdale was unable to diagnose the cause of the multisystem failure with subsequent total electrical failure. That multisystem failure is now happening a second time and ruined my trip. The service department at Land Rover North Scottsdale was unable to repair the rear hatch lock release appropriately. Not a happy story for 600 miles on the LR3.
Detail your problems and note the dealer and GM name of the dealer. Also tell them that you are sharing this on message boards. I really like land rovers but I want to see them improve the reliability.
Other cars have the same types of problems (Just read the GMC and Chevy boards for the expensive denali, Yukons, and the Caddy Escalade - not exactly the same but breakdowns nonetheless). I own two LRs and had another one for a few years and never a breakdown. that said I hope your problems get fixed and LR takes responsiblity.
The vehicle has about 670 miles on it. That'a less than 27 hours running time (at an average of 25 mph, probably under-estimated for my average driving speed). This LR3 has now spent 40 hours in the service department (assuming an 8 hour day, probably an over-estimte for the hours worked on my LR3). But I don't think there is any other name but "Lemon" for a vehicle that has more shop time than running time.
Similarly, the last loaner vehicle was a 2007 LR3 with 7700 miles on it. During the days I drove it the audio system failed totally for a day, then the LED panel started working again but there was no sound for a day, and finally it started working correctly spontaneously. Thus, the 2 LR3's that I have spent more than a day in have both failed. A dismal record, and it appears from your posting that this problem is epidemic in Land Rover. I have reviewed the Arizona "Lemon Law" statutes which allow the dealer 4 attempts to repair the problem, or 30 days out of service over 2 years. I am counting both and will use this law when either trigger is reached. I have been extremely disappointed in Land Rover quality. When people ask me how I like my new car, I tell them it is a piece of sh*t.
As one last aside, the loaner LR3 with 7700 miles on it was leaking oil onto my garage floor. This suggests a separate indictment of poor quality by either Land Rover or the dealer's service department. A vehicle that new should not leak oil.
You got a bad car it can happen to anyone. I have dozens of customers in LR3s who have never had ANY ISSUES AT ALL with their cars. I have many, many more that have had minor problems but are still very satisfied with the vehicle. I have never had a lemon lawed or buy back LR3 that was one of my customers although my dealership has had two buy back LR3s in the three years LR3s have been on sale. Neither of those were lemon law vehicles however as their is a difference between lemon law and buy back proceedings.
Consult the lemon law in your state and see what your options are.
Not to me. Higher temperature simply means that fewer air molecules need to be in the tire to achieve a given pressure. Overpressurization is overpressurization whether at 100° or 10°.
Higher ambient temperatures will also impede cooling of the tires while driving. The hotter temperatures in Arizona will thereby cause the pressure in those those overinflated tires to increase even more than in cold climates.
But the flip side also matters. Underinflation can cause tires to wear out faster due to increased frictional heating (internally and externally).
I would go with the recommendations stated in the manual.
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I had Land Rover replace the rear view mirror. The buttons started to flake so LR replace the whole mirror. I like the new one a lot better as the garage buttons are on the bottom, not on the front of the mirror.
I'm very pleased to report that my LR has NO rock chips, NOT ONE! My previous Jeep Grand Cherokee's and Mercedes ML500 had them, especially the ML. My current Mercedes E430 sport has a lot of them.
Either I've been extremely lucky or LR has a better paint process or something (I certainly don't want to jinx it!)
My tires are wearing evening although they are making more noise than when they were new (not a problem so far). I'm very pleased as it has been smooth sailing.
lrsucks... sorry to hear about your new LR3, these are comfortable vehicles with plenty of power (I have the V-8) but when they are not working correctly, it can be frustrating. :sick:
Mark156 :shades:
The only minor problems I experience with my 2007 LR3 HSE were as follows:
-Condensation in headlamps promptly replaced
-Vibration in passenger door front panel around speakers fixed
Took several long trips with the LR3 with kids and lots of luggage. Drove 14 hours straight once and the driving position and seat were both very comfortable. Yes the LR3 will never be known for its acceleration but the V8 provides plenty of power in all driving conditions including passing
I am also sorry to hear about lr3sucks poor experience. The dealership here in Ottawa is excellent. SO far this is turning out to be one of the better ownership experience :shades:
The only frustrating part was arguing with the voice recognition system because of my French accent :mad: but I was able to work around it. Love the awesome sound system, Nav and bluetooth integration.
My next vehicle will be either an LR3 or I might step up to the RRS HSE
I don't know why dealer service tends to over-inflate--my vehicle was delivered almost 10 PSI over in each wheel. While it may give a more precise feel while you're turning, it's not good for the tires over-all.
If you go off-roard and drive in sand or over rocky cobbles, decreasing cold inflation by 5-10 PSI can enhance grip and protect tires somewhat against damage. If you do any amount of off-road driving, carry a portable air compressor with you to adjust inflation on the road.
To date, I would rate this truck a A- or B+. It has been very good but not perfect.
Issues: gas tank recall, battery died early, Goodyear tire life was very poor (rotation can extend tire to 22-25k maybe), low coolant sensor replaced, gas tank door latch replaced, few other minor items.
Enjoyment: Easily one of the most fun SUVs I've ever driven. It's a blast to drive this thing, even after all this time. Ours is normally used for suburban treks but I recently had the chance to really push the capabilities at a friend's farm. The LR3 took on trails that previously had been the domain of 4 wheelers only. It was unstoppable. There's something great about 4wheeling in air conditioned comfort in your massive luxo-SUV when it's 100 degrees out! This truck continue to turn heads and gets attention like something that costs twice as much. Hell, many Denalis and Expeditions sticker for more than this rig, but none have the "wow" factor because there just aren't very many LR3s on the road. Just put a new set of Toyo's on and highly recommend them.
Would I do it again?: My answer is a qualified YES. It's been a really fun truck and even though some have had problems, ours has been pretty reliable. My qualified answer is because it's a very expensive car to own and drive. If you're bothered by issues of value, don't get an LR3. If you can rationalize dropping $1,200 on tires every 18-24 months or $1,400 brake jobs at the LR dealer because you're driving something that few others have, then get one, you won't be sorry.
I CAN'T GET IT YET ( AND SO MY LR DEALER).
DOES THE LAZY ENTRY MODE MOVES THE SEAT BACK UPON TAKING IT OUT OF IGNITION AND FORWARD WHEN INSERTED?
HOW DO YOU PROGRAM IT????
HELP!
THANKS.
When you are looking at the Land Rover website they are talking about 2008 LR3s and just about all of them have bluetooth phone connections.
You need to go to a different Land Rover dealer as the one you are going to seems pretty clueless. Anyone that has been around since the Launch of the LR3 should know that 2005 LR3s don't have bluetooth.
I suggest before you spend the money to get it put in to try the Treo with a LR3 on bluetooth and not a 2008. The treos before 2008 really struggled with connecting to all Land Rovers so not sure if the 2008 parts are backwards compatible with a 2005 or if they have just upgraded the Land Rover Kit accessories to 2008 specs. If the Treo is the only phone she wants to use then it would suck to have the bluetooh installed on your LR3 and then have it not work.
LRNA said talk to the dealer
Dealer ended up doing two alignments for free. I had only rotated the tires once in 18,000. at 18,000 the dealer replaced all four tires and charged me for one and a half. I have michelins on there now. have about 10,000 miles on them and getting ready to rotate a second time. So far no noise and no unusual wear.
I trust the courts will provide everyone who had problems with some $$ on this issue. I think land rover should have stepped up and solved.
I talked to about 5 tire places about the issue and read stuff online regarding tire wear. THe wieght of the vehicle and the tires seem to lead to the problem as much as the alignment issue does. Any independant tire shop said the same thing - expect 20-25K max on tires on this vehicle. I am fine with that. This car is expensive and still is amazing.
The dealer i go to is Land Rover Mission Viejo in Mission Viejo CA. They are decent, but have grown and added Jaguar to the mix.
That is the hate part.
On the love side, it is a great long distance traveller, (except for the 18mpg highway). We have driven through ocean waves and low tide on the Outer Banks and the car performs very well. It is my wife's car and she loves it.
That being said, it is fairly high maintainence vehicle and it feels like there is always something wrong with it. We are looking at the Lexus hybrid SUV and will probably sell the car in the next 6 months. Anybody want to buy it?
It seems the '05 LR3s have all the technical problems.
It does seem the '05 LR3s have had the bulk of the issues.We will probably keep the car for another 8-10 months, but we use it primarily for shuttling the kids around town, so a hybrid would be nice... not doing as much off-roading as anticipated (soccer games + karate class + school pickups > mudding/off-roading). Such is life.
Not sure what the exact speeds involved were but around 40 mph is what I was told.
My clients wife and his baby were treated and released from the hospital on the same day. His wife just had some bruises from the airbag and seat belt.
The people in the Lexus were still in the hospital last time I heard.
As you can see from the pictures the windshield was not even broken. There is a tiny crack at the bottom of the bottom driver's side corner and that is it.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Not sure what happened to the window maybe it broke when they were moving the wreck or maybe a bit of debris from the Lexus hit it during the accident. The rear fender flare below that window was ripped off so something must have hit that side either during the accident or right afterwards.
Ironically, I have been investigating the LEXUS hybrid SUV as a "suitable" replacement....
Thanks for posting pix that will likely impact my future decisions on possible replacement for my wife's LR3...
When you next visit the LR dealer, you might also give serious consideration to the new LR2. It has many of the virtues of the LR3, but is a little smaller and may be easier for your wife to drive. It looks like a great ride and would fit the "soccer mom" bill. It's much better than the vehicle it replaced.
While we are still in the middle of this disaster i have to say this LR3 is the most reliable and versatile vehicle i have owned. I added the dog guard gate months ago. With this feature i was able to get my dogs and cats to safety at a friends home while also packing in large animal kennels and clothes for myself for the week. I then headed up to the mountains for a fire defense effort. Off roading was required and handled with no issue. the dog guard gate comes out easily and I slept in the vehicle (i am 6 foot 4) three nites and had a great nite sleep creating a "bedroom" for by dropping down all the seats. the GPS came in handy to measure the distance in miles from the fire to our facility -to figure wind direction and to find the hot spots referenced by CAL Fire. The bluetooth allowed for hands free evacuation and road updates via phone while driving off road in rugged mountain terrain to get a first hand look at approaching fires. If necessary i could transport two animal crates. Finally i was able to transport 6 emergency animal rescue staff people to many places in the area with one vehicle.
At first i was concerned about taking such an expensive vehicle into a dangerous situation. Now i wont leave home without it. This is a true SUV and is worth its lofty price
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You are a well regarded person on this thread, and if I remember others...I trust this vehicle will be only used for parts, if that, in the future.
Glad to hear all the occupants are doing well. My prayers will go out to the occupants of the other car.
I can only imagine what would happen if an LR3 would ever front end a MicroCar. Maybe I should send that one into Top Gear?
Cheers,
MC