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Has anyone come across any discussions with the OCFA as it pertains to home BioDiesel systems? Approaching this from a common sense point of view I'm hoping that the higher flame point would offset the volume that most home processor systems make (30 - 50 gallons per batch). I'll check back in a week or two and will follow up with the OCFA directly if there's nothing out there. Just trying to avoid duplicated discussions.
Are you talking about doing the processing at home ?
I have never personally seen biodiesel production, but IIRC , lye ? and methanol ? is used during the process, and a respirator is required during part of the process.
It may be no more complicated than home beer brewing , but get real , this is not something to be doing at home unless you are are in an agriculture part of oc, well away from other houses.
Asking about storage or process of chemicals in any residential zone is something that will certainly get their attention.
The dealer showed me the documentation for 2000, and it agrees with the owner supplement booklet. Ford had me covered, and no questions on both my cars.
Sorry to hear of your experience.
Good luck in seeking assistance from your local CNG utility.
I am in Portland Oregon, where Northwest Natural is our gas provider. Any leads will be appreciated. Thanks
J
I did get a great fill, 4250psi at $2.21/gge.
J
Ford Focus. I went to a GSA Fleet auction yesterday and felt the single
CNG Contour went for way too much money for it's condition.
Also is anyone in PA running a CNG car? Do you home fill? If not, where
are you filling.
As much as I would like to have a CNG vehicle, not sure the expense, in
PA, is justified. Please convince me!
Jim
While the new GX has many improvements, we fully expect our engine and fuel system to outlast the car. We currently have nearly 75,000 clean miles on our Civic GX. We still manage 30 mpg with all around driving, and can reach the upper 30's on highway trips.
Though there are several sites listing used Honda Civic GX vehicles for sale, here are some where you may begin a search. Be certain to contact the Natural Gas Vehicle Association in your local area. They are a valuable resource. Checking Craigslist in areas closest to you would be a good source of used GX, though I failed to find anything on the Philadelphia list. Checking local gas utilities for used vehicles is often an excellent way to find a low price on a used Civic GX. Good luck!
http://www.cngmotors.com/gal/cng/index.php
http://autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html?cid=automobiles-226310770&dst=- 1,658.47&rsr=bWFrZT1IT05EQSZtb2RlbD1DSVZJQyZjbF95PTE5OTgmY2hfeT0yMDA3JmNsX3ByaWN- lPSZjaF9wcmljZT0mY2xfbWk9JmNoX21pPSZjaz1HWCZndXI9YW55JmNzej05NTYyNCZjZV9zbD0mdnR- 5cGU9YXV0b3MmbWs9SG9uZGEmbW89Q2l2aWMmc3VibWl0PVNlYXJjaA--
http://autos.yahoo.com/usedcars/detail/index.html?cid=automobiles-226411922&dst=- 350.47&rsr=bWFrZT1IT05EQSZtb2RlbD1DSVZJQyZjbF95PTE5OTgmY2hfeT0yMDA3JmNsX3ByaWNlP- SZjaF9wcmljZT0mY2xfbWk9JmNoX21pPSZjaz1HWCZndXI9YW55JmNzej05NTYyNCZjZV9zbD0mdnR5c- GU9YXV0b3MmbWs9SG9uZGEmbW89Q2l2aWMmc3VibWl0PVNlYXJjaA--
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/car/375555279.html
I got you a bumper sticker with this message:
Natural Gas Vehicle
Car Pool Lane - OK
It's not fancy, but I have it for you. It may or may not work for you; would you like it?
Here's another option: I found a Web site that will make custom bumper stickers. Haven't tried them, but anybody interested can see http://www.autolettering.com.
whoolia
Thank you again,
Jim
Good luck in your search.
As to converting a Focus, I have a feeling that the effort and expense involved would make the project unfeasible.
Jim
I think if we would all get a bumper sticker to note our Natural Gas powered vehicles - more people would take interest and get involved!
Also, I read that somewhere in Europe, Mercedes has a CNG version of one of its cars.
It is a shame that these are so downplayed and ignored in the US by various entities. American HONDA deserves kudos for keeping CNG cars alive here!
Clean Air Vehicle (large letters)
Powered by Natural Gas (smaller letters)
If you are interested, I will attempt to locate some at our local PG&E yard. They might be willing to part with some, since we have been refueling with them since 1998.
You can contact me via this forum's email. Maybe you'll get some more takers!
Thank you and PG&E
cnguser
I now have available 2 bumper stickers. The first 2 people that ask for them, get them, but CNGuser gets first dibs.
bumper stickers say:
THIS VEHICLE IS POWERED
BY CLEAN NATURAL GAS
No company logos. Colors are blue with white letters and a thin red line along bottom. Measure 2.5" x 12". No charge. I love to encourage fellow clean-air drivers.
whoolia
Get a bumper sticker for your vehicle.
(Whoolia check your e-mail at this forum - message for you).
See http://www.altcarexpo.com/
It seems like there is quite a few folks driving cng but we are all scattered out. We need to get us all in one place.
I suggest you order the factory shop manuals from Helminc.com for that year. These will be helpful, but not cheap. My hunch is the dealers are likely to be the best souce for the specialized CNG components, should you need something. If you find an independent CNG service technician, he may have a source for parts. You could try the auto parts place down the street, but likely they may have no reference to even start looking.
Happy motoring.
AutoZone has most parts much cheaper as well as BAP, and I found a great online site called Autopartswarehouse that has some REAL bargains!
Garry
I drive a GX and am extremely happy with it. A friend of mine just purchased a 2006 CNG Grand Marquis. The vehicle is running great but he has asked me for recommendations on local CNG Certified mechanics should he experience any issues. Since I haven't had anything worked on my GX except changed oil I am not sure where to send him.
Any recommendations on CNG Certified Mechanics in Southern California?
Thank you!
Though Ford has relatively extensive history with CNG vehicles, they have completely dropped the program in the USA. The GM bifuel cars did not last long on the market and I was told that they were not very reliable. I would worry about simply going to a Ford or GM dealership. If a CNG certified Honda dealership is not nearby, check with mechanics at United Parcel Service or a local rapid transit district. They have extensive experience with 3000 to 5000 psi CNG applications and should be highly qualified to recommend someone in the area (unless you are able to guilt them into helping you directly).
Good luck. I wish more USA manufacturers would make their European CNG vehicles available here. The new Opel Corsa has been outfitted by BRA GmbH and Gasverbund Mittelland AG in Germany and Switzerland and is an exciting possibility for the US in the future. With a CNG range of 500km and petrol of 200km (optimized for CNG), both companies are eager to enter the California market after they gain German and European certification for their aftermarket conversion (approved by Opel GmbH).
Was this a "conversion job"? If so do you know what outfit did it? Where are they located? Approximate costs?
As for CNG mechanics, have him take a road trip to Portland. One of the Ford dealers off I-5 has a CNG technician available...
Check out BAF Technologies - according to their website they do CNG conversion on the Crown Vic, Town Car and Grand Marquis (almost anything with the 4.6 - I like the sound of a CNG Marauder). It looks as if it is authorized to some extent by Ford, and the 2006 Crown Vic is CARB approved.
http://www.baftechnologies.com/
THIS VEHICLE IS POWERED
BY CLEAN NATURAL GAS.
No company logos, etc. I'll send these free to the first 10 people that ask me. I talked a friend out of these, since his agency isn't using them anymore.
whoolia
Garry
Dejapooh@hotmail.com
Jim
kasey-jones@comcast.net
A better way to let other registered users here contact you directly is to set your email address to "public" in your profile. That way registered forums users (and ONLY registered forums users) can click on your username and get your email from your profile to contact you.
A handy tip to help avoid spam!
brian
cng_across_usa@yahoo.com
Thank you
http://www.gasfill.com/
but it is in England, and I don't know if it is licensed or AGA approved for use in the USA.
Right now I believe FuelMaker is the only game in town, unless you have multi thousands of bucks for a big time commercial CNG fueling system such as the transit agencies and filling stations use here.
I have two (3000 psi) cars and a used FMQ-2, and it works great.
Keep checking the Internet as used ones pop up now and then.
On the upside I currently use a modified FM4 for the past 4 years at least and almost 7,000 hours. Never had to replace the heads.
Could FUELMAKER CORP. BE STICKING TO THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS?
They could be used together.
Send me your email address and I'll forward you the information and costs as soon as possible. Also possible secrets on how to modify your Fuelmaker to run indefinitely without having to replace the head. So far I have approximately 7,000 hours on my FM4 and it's still running strong and safe.
Jim
http://www.pressurecontrols.com/00000098290825904/000000997e0f95a0d/index.html
This company states that their CNG at Home unit will retail for approximately $1,800 US, though FuelMaker told us many years ago, when we were supposed to be part of their pre-production program, that Phill would sell initially for $1,900 and drop to $1,000 within one year. We all know now that they were off by $2,500, only part of that increase due to the increasingly stronger Canadian dollar. We are very interested, but are still awaiting positive news.