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Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous



  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,749
    "I'm pretty sure that whatever we get next for her will have, at the very least, the same features she has now; hard to go backwards in terms of feature content..."

    I agree, but different makes of cars often have different feature sets. E.g., Mazdas offer blind spot monitors but Nissans don't; Ford has those curved blind spot mirrors, etc. Compared to the 540i, my GLI lacks Homelink, a power passenger seat, adjustable thigh supports, real leather, power steering wheel tilt/telescope, automatic wipers, and automatic seatbelt height adjusters. On the other hand, it has keyless ignition, a nav system, Bluetooth, adjustable lumbar support, an MP3 player, a center console with storage, good cupholders, a sunglass storage area, etc.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,712
    but different makes of cars often have different feature sets

    Very true, when I went to the LaCrosse from the Genesis I lost the power tilt/tele and rainsense wipers even though the LaCrosse has a higher equipment level overall with Nav, heads-up (not available on Genesis), and blind spot monitor.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    It sounds like it was a good experience for your wife to shop a bit and check the Juke out - allows you, and more importantly her, to be that much more comfortable with keeping what you have (which, dare I say, is generally the best option).

    Agreed. As much as I like the idea of a new car, I'm getting more prudent with my spending as I get older.

    It's not that she dislikes the Mazda, I think she wants something a bit smaller since most of her driving is in town. Parking and maneuverability are going to be more important - as well as better mileage.

    But, when she gave it a serious think last night, she really uses the blind spot monitoring and would miss it greatly. The auto wipers are nice due to the rain and snow we get here - one less thing to think about, along with the headlights. The memory seats are a feature that she's grown to love - there is about 8" of height difference between us and the convenience of having to hit only 1 button to reset the seat position is nice for her.

    As far as brand loyalty, I'm not sure there is any now. She owned a Datsun when she first learned to drive, then a series of Fords (Tempo, Escort, Expedition, Explorer, Focus), then the Saturns we've had most recently (L300, two VUEs and the ION). Toss in the '99 New Beetle and the current Mazda.

    Which brands does she like now? MINI and Volvo come to mind. She might still get a Countryman if and when the finances allow it.

    With all that said, I'm hoping she decides to stick with the Mazda - it improves my chances of getting a new ride sooner. New or used, I'm not sure. And, as my posts over the past year have indicated, I'm all over the map in terms of what I want.

    What I've test driven over the past year:

    Ford Mustang GT
    Chevrolet Camaro SS
    Chevrolet Sonic
    Volvo C30
    VW GTI
    VW CC
    BMW 3-series coupe
    BMW 1-series
    MINI Countryman
    MINI Cooper Convertible

    The hunt continues!
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    "Marv" just called here at the house and I gave him the bad news that we weren't going to be buying a Juke.

    Explained to him our reasons (not enough of an increase of MPG, lack of certain features that the Mazda currently has) and he was very gracious about it. Seems like someone who's been in the business for a while and understands that not every contact will result in a sale.

    If I was ever in the market for a Nissan (if I win the lottery, they have 2 GT-R's in the showroom), I'd be certain to reach out to him.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Wow, a pony car and an econo-hatch, that's quite a spread.

    I once test drove a Durango and a Miata on the same day.

    What did we buy? A minivan, naturally. :D

    Heck, the wife wanted the Dodge conversion van.
  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    Wow, a pony car and an econo-hatch, that's quite a spread.

    Not sure if I'm going to give in to my adolescent self and get the mid life crisis car or something that is fun but still a bit sporty in case I'm doing the pizza thing longer than I expect.

    Would be fun to pull up in front of a customer's house, drop off their order, and do a burnout when I leave!

    But, the money I spend on gas would leave me in the red from the tips I earn.
  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,314
    edited March 2013
    If for whatever reason my next car isn't as fancy, I might look into a semi-vintage MB (80s era) rather than a cheapo new car.

    I agree with you. I find that if you need a car just for commuting, then a base Toyota or Hyundai feels no different than a 10 year old Toyota or Hyundai for 1/5 of the price.

    Therefore it would be hard for me to spend $20k on some base new econobox when I can spend $4k and get the motoring equivalent, just a tad older.

    EDIT: Unless it's a dirt cheap lease. I meant to say I can't see plopping down $20k cash for a basic car just because it's new.

    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg

  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    If you add 10% to that 20k, you can get a Fiesta ST with 197HP and a 6-speed. I wouldn't call that a base econobox.

    Heck, for under 20 grand you can get a base Juke with 188 HP and a stick.

    But I see your point. I'm conflicted about new vs used for my next car.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,749
    I'm pretty sure the Park Avenue used to offer Rainsense wipers. I'm surprised that Buicks no longer have them.
  • corvettecorvette United StatesPosts: 5,749
    Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear reviewed the Focus ST in the current season and thought it relied too heavily on the various electronic nannies to keep the car pointed straight ahead--the implication was that without them, it would be totally undrivable.
  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,712
    They did, I was pretty shocked to see it wasn't available. I guess only Caddy gets them now.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 26,708
    I'm not conflicted. Just poor. So I know if I get another car for me in the next 5 years, it will be used!

    actually, the next car is likely to be a 2000 Acura TL. Hopefully real soon, since that means my about to graduate son got a job, and is moving on to a new(er) car and I get the TL back.

    and in 1.5 years, I will get my Volvo back, when my daughter leaves for college and the car stays behind. Then I only have to fight her for it over breaks when she is home!

    though until I start driving more (I have about 250 miles on my Integra in almost 3 months) it really won't be an issue!

    2018 Hyundai Elantra Sport (mine), 2013 Acura RDX AWD (wife's) and 2015 Jetta Sport (daughter's)

  • boomchekboomchek Vancouver, BC, CanadaPosts: 5,314
    edited March 2013
    If you add 10% to that 20k, you can get a Fiesta ST with 197HP and a 6-speed. I wouldn't call that a base econobox.

    But for about half the price you can get (if you can find one) a nice Acura Integra Type R with same power, less weight, and a quasi-collector status, meaning it probably won't depreciate any more than it has already.


    2007 BMW 328i Sports Pkg

  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    I saw that episode of Top Gear as well. The Fiesta is supposed to not have all that nannery.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,697
    I'm conflicted about new vs used for my next car as well. Buy out the lease on my 328xi that I love? Try to find a 2011 335xi for a similar price of my 50K mile 2011 328xi? Buy a used or CPO 328xi with lower mileage? Buy a new Civic EXL? Buy a new Mazda 3i Grand Touring? Lease a new C-Class if they have some killer deals + conquest cash?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • fintailfintail Posts: 43,332
    If I can find a new lease when the current one is up, that matches the deal I have now, I will probably do it again. But if I can't justify the expense, I have enough left over from the old car to buy a mint W123 or W126 and drive it for many years. I will admit I like having a new car though, the tech is cool, everything is clean and mint, etc. Basic new cars will be a very tough sell for me - I'd rather plop down 7500 on a beautiful 30 year old MB than spend 15K on a basic Kia.
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Seattle, WAPosts: 3,020
    My BIL/SIL have a 2011 Juke. It certainly has character - not particularly comfortable to ride in as a passenger IMHO. The other thing, is that the darn thing rattles all over - it rattles like the doors and hatch are going to fall off. I thought maybe it was limited to their car, but a co-worker has one that I rode in the other day it rattles like crazy, too.

    A deal-breaker for me on any car is rattling. It drives me insane.
    2017 Mercedes C300 Sport 4Matic, 2016 BMW X1 xDrive28i
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 4,319
    I saw the new Sentra and re-discovered how really nice the Elantra is at work where I drove about 20 of them already...very impressive vehicle. I also got to see the new Civic up close last Friday while at the auto mall and it was a big let down. I really like the Sentra so much better. I will say the new Accord is a real looker and they did a great job with that car over the last generation. I guess the new Civic, both the 2012 and 2013, isn't much of an improvement over my '06 model and the only 2 things I wish it had were the chrome bar on the trunk, above the license plate that the 2010 and 2011 have and an aux adapter in the dash for use with my iPod. Stupidly the '06 model doesn't have this feature and there's no way to add one without swapping out the stock radio...very stupid Honda. That and the fact that there is no USB port anywhere in the car.
    The competition has gotten so much better, even the Ford Focus, that the Civic really is a bit primitive. And since I do drive so many different new models, it's only natural that I'd change my mind about the Civic and my real dislike of the car. The new Forte is gonna be a big game changer also and Toyota knows that it must hit a grand slam with the re-designed Corolla.
    I'll give y'all a teaser about my rides for today. I had the maximum pleasure out of a brand new vehicle today which only had 4 miles on the clock. And on the 2nd run, I finally got to drive a 2012 Fusion. But that's for another post!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2015 Audi A3 (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2009 Nissan Versa SL Hatch (daughter #1) / 2008 Hyundai Accent GLS (daughter #2)

  • tifightertifighter WAPosts: 1,995
    Stupidly the '06 model doesn't have this feature and there's no way to add one without swapping out the stock radio...very stupid Honda.

    To be fair, a LOT of 2006 cars did not have an aux-in ports.

    15.5 XC70 T6 / 16 Soul EV / 13 MB E350 Cabrio

  • tjc78tjc78 JerseyPosts: 6,712

    I do believe you can add an AUX port/Ipod interface to your car. I did a quick check on and put in 2006 Honda Civic (I guessed at LX) and this came up USA Spec Ipod for Honda

    I had one of these in my 2006 Avalon, worked flawlessly.

    Any questions ask away.

    2017 Buick Enclave / 2017 Hyundai Elantra

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