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23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
If you aren't power-hungry, get a 2000 model Z3M coupe.... It's only 240 HP, but still lots of fun and just as dorky! You can get a nice one for under $20K
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23 Civic Type-R / 22 MDX Type-S / 21 Tesla Y LR / 03 Montero Ltd
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
What to replace it with?
Went next door to the Mitsu dealer and sat in the Outlander Sport SE and though it was just o k but the dash is horrible, especially the radio controls...where are the knobs? Comfy drivers chair but lacking in every other dimension compared with the Rogue and Tuscon, with the Tuscon being the best by far of all three. Hyundai is kicking butt here with good looking, reliable and affordable vehicles just like Honda used to do before their products all became so stale looking. Besides the new Accord, Honda's have all become so boring and tired looking with Hyundai now being one of the best auto guys out there. Do like the new MB CLA and saw a pic of the new Audi A3 but these are just too expensive for my blood. I prefer and want "cheap to keep" and these premium brands are anything but. So why keep kidding myself that I'll pony up for one some day...I just wouldn't and I now realize this. Today was a real education for me, truth be told, and though I love the higher priced vehicles, they just ain't me!
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
He has a very old recliner in the den where he sits and watches TV. He can't see very well, so he has these "magnifying" glasses that the Light House for the Blind gave him a few years back. Besides, he like to snooze a little here and there. The recliner needs to be thrown out (it's so bad, I would be embarrassed to give it to the Salvation Army), but he continually refuses to get a new one. It doesn't even recline any more.
I'm having surgery Tuesday, and the Surgeon wanted to know if we had a recliner in the house for me to sit in and sleep in since it would be the best position for the shoulder after surgery for at least a few weeks. I told the surgeon we didn't have one - so he really pushed me to get one since I will have trouble sleeping in a bed. I told this to Dad. "Nope!" he says - the old one is just fine - I'm not going to spend money on a new recliner. So after our walk at Town Center Mall, I drove to US 1 in Boca Raton to the Lay-Z-Boy store. He was obstinate, to say the least, when I tried to get him to come into the store with me.
I literally pushed him through the front doors and we looked around for about half an hour. A nice young lady was helping us. The average recliner is over $1000 there, but they had a big sale going on. He didn't sit in any recliner until the saleslady showed him something for about $499.00. So he sits in it, reclines, and says, "...ahhhhhhh!" He is in heaven. With shipping and tax the final cost was $599.99, delivered and they will take the old one away. The chair was originally $699.00, so there was a $200 savings on it.
It took him over 2 hours to stop sulking about the purchase - but he's fine now - even making me measure where it's going to go, how we should arrange the room, etc. They will be delivering it on Wednesday afternoon, so I will only have to suffer one night. The shoulder has to be elevated with pillows under the shoulder and the sling and my arm has to be draped over my stomach to reduce swelling and pain.
So, finally, after years of trying to get him to get himself a recliner, he finally got one. I wonder if I'll ever hear the end of this?
Finally, since Father's Day is just a few weeks away, I usually take him to Van Heusen at Saw Grass Mills shopping mall and buy him 3 or 4 golf shirts, a few pairs of shorts, and I think this year I will get him some Rockport Walking shoes. Like I said, he refuses to spend a dime on himself, so I have to wait for birthdays and Father's Day to buy him clothes.
I wonder if all 90 year olds are like him? Are your parents like that?
2021 Genesis G90
Every holiday we bought him new clothes, cologne, whatever he needed because like your Dad he never bought a thing for himself (except cars, he liked his Town Cars and Grand Marquis).
Even when he still had his home I wanted him to replace the 35 YO washer/dryer to something modern, nope! What can you do, I guess. What's funny is he was extremely generous with the family and had no problem handing me a 10K check to help pay for our wedding. Still get choked up that he passed a month before it and wasn't able to be there.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
When the Elantra came out in the new design, the surprised auto mag hacks didn't know what to say. So a lot of them kept trying to put a damper on the design by dredging up the old original Hyundai's and trying really, really hard to not give it any praise, even tho it hit the market running and never looked back in spite of all the Nervous Nelly reviewers.
So you, and all these actual OWNERS of the model think pretty much the same way....
http://www.edmunds.com/hyundai/elantra/2013/consumer-reviews.html
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
A year or so ago we were worried about her being too isolated and not partaking of the lounge and other activities in the place. The management had similar problems with other residents so they started charging $1 to deliver the main mail to individual rooms. Occupancy in the dining room swelled way up after that, and my mom actually broke down and got some new clothes to "keep up" with her table mates. Best idea they've had to get folks socializing there.
Her Mazda was about 15 when she quit driving and sold it about 7 years ago. Even though her utilities are included in the rent, she still keeps the lights off most of the time. Something about children of the depression.
My father in law was a great guy, but I could only shake my head at his financial acumen. For example, I remember one incident where he explained to my wife and I that when you calculate a tip to a server you should subtract the tax and only give 15% of the remaining amount. On the other hand, he would buy a new Park Avenue or Riviera every three years, paying close to MSRP and getting lowballed on his trade. I suggested that he might want to lease his cars since he flipeed them so often, but he explained that he wanted to own his cars...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive
Yes, I believe that as you get on in years, one wants to spend money only when it is necessary - if not essential, older people are happier to keep what they have and leave their family their assets. My Dad is not a millionaire, that's for sure, but he pays cash for everything. He owes no one and wants to keep it that way.
I was lucky to finally get him to get a recliner for himself under the guise that I would need it to sleep in for a week or so - partly true, but I will sleep in bed with lots of pillows to prop up my shoulder. During the day, I'll be better off on the recliner according to the doctor.
Anyone else have similar experiences with older family members?
2021 Genesis G90
Generally, people make fewer discretionary purchases as they get older. If you stop driving, you don't need your own car. If you're not watching Netflix and doing video chats with your grandkids, you don't need a new MacBook or a fast internet connection, etc. If you don't have an e-reader or tablet, you can still check paper books out from your local library for free.
(Note that the cost of non-discretionary purchases, such as health care, tends to increase with age.)
My silent generation father and early boomer mother didn't have those issues though - were happy to spend freely during my childhood, which caused issues at divorce, and I know is why I like to have something extra at the end of every month. I would rather live a little (cars, travel while I am physically able) when I can enjoy it, but won't have my expenses exceed income.
Guy came by last night to look at it - definitely an interested buyer who currently owns a 1998 535i. He's a "stick" guy, so an ideal candidate for the car. Unfortunately, he offered almost $3k less than the list price (and almost $2k less than what I was ready to take). I wouldn't call it a lowball offer, as he was going off of KBB values - but I'm in no rush and am willing to hold out for more.
Still, I found myself a bit disappointed, as the active shopping for a replacement was seemingly within grasp.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
My folks did that 10 years ago. The last new car they had bought was in 1973 - then it was a succession of used cars. Mom finally put her foot down and wanted one last "new" car for them.
They bought a 2003 Hyundai Sonata GLS V6. When I visited them in March of this year it had all of 29K on it.
My folks have established a trust for all of their assets - when they die, everything will be sold and placed into the trust, then divided out between my sister and I and the 4 grandchildren.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
So, paying off the old loan plus a hefty down payment will should affect the loan terms.
But Q, normally I'd agree with you that it shouldn't make any difference.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Excellent point - chronic car buyers fuel our economy by buying cars from manufacturers who, in turn, hire workers and purchase components to produce the automobile. The objective of this forum is to keep the readers current on new cars and associated technologies in order to stimulate car purchasing.
There is no doubt that most of us are Chronic, if not manic, car buyers. The smell of a new car is invigorating, tantalizing, hypnotic, and...!
I just took delivery of my new 2014 E 350 Sport Sedan and have already opened a new bank account to save for my next one. A 2016 which is supposed to be a complete redesign. i almost can't wait to see it and drive it! Without doubt, I must have some serious flaws or deficits in my personality traits. I'm obsessive compulsive - to be sure. But aren't we all when it comes to new car buyin?
2021 Genesis G90
Some of us like to kibbitz more than buy, though I've done my fair share over the years.
Kibitzing is the very first step in the process called "new car buying!" Without kibitzing, who would get "turned on" to new car buying.
2021 Genesis G90
Well, of course, I assume that whatever money he is willing to part with, he would still part with when buying the new vehicle. Whether that happens before the deal or during the deal shouldn't matter. As for debt-to-income, they take that trade-in into account (as in that loan is coming off your report). Credit scores are slow to update, so unless you wait many month after paying off the vehicle, it won't matter.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
This seems awfully cheap. Manheim is acting up, so I can't confirm for sure, but I think they are in the $28k range at auction.
I can't think of many affordable (under $25k) cars that I would even replace the 135 with. I'm not going back to FWD and I'm not going back to anything with 0-60 over 5.5 secs. Also needs a livable back seat. And I'd want it to have under 45k miles. The lower the better, of course.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Also found this place that has several 2010 5.0 models, which I'd probably prefer ... but, again, these are all listed right at auction value. I don't know what is up with that.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I know you said no FWD, but the 2015 GTI looks pretty sweet to me.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Your average speed will be higher given it won't have to stop for break downs. :shades:
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I like the Vapour Grey color of the first XF. It won't show the pollen as much as black!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Interesting. Why no FWD? (pause for thinking) Any car that will do 0-60 in under 5.5 seconds would have to be very powerful, so you’re concerned about torque steer? And exactly how do you define “livable back seat”?
Well, the back seat of the 1-series is just enough. Anything smaller would be difficult.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
In your quest, I've always been a fan of the WRX. Then again, if it were. My money, I'd be jumping on that Jag.
nothing could possibly go wrong there, right?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
But, seriously, have you heard anything consistently and tragically bad about the XF?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I do remember some early road tests (or LT tests) where they had some electrical gremlins.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.