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Legacy GT Limited vs. Acura TSX and TL
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-juice
-juice
-juice
;-)
Krzys
I have heard personally
little more hp
6 speed
the dealer I was talking too actually told me to WAIT on the next model year (believe it or not)
I guess this is a good discussion area for me to ask my second question
I have a TSX I may be ready to move on for a number of annoyances and I am thinking of the Legacy GT (not limited not enough head room for me) am I going to mis the TSX? am I missing the Legacy already?
thanks
A GT will give you more punch and AWD for all-weather traction.
But they are similiar in size and concept, so if you find the TSX cramped and impractical I doubt the GT will address those issues.
Legacy also offer a wagon option, if praciticality is your primary concern.
-juice
not impressed with how much headroom is taken away in legacy limited however the normal GT has great room not TOO concerned about Leather.. sunroof missing will be a bit of a bummer but I can handle that..
has anybody had any STAND OUT problems with the legacy is the 06 worth waiting for? those are the kinds of questions I am hoping to answer..
and since I am asking for an opinion I am more then inviting people to tell me to keep the TSX.. I could have a jaded view just cause I am cranky!
Heated cloth seats are OK, I like 'em because you don't slide around as much in a sportier car. That's not a biggie to me.
No moonroof is a down side, but you could get an aftermarket one that goes up and over the roof. We have ASC aftermarket moonroofs on both our Subarus, just not that kind.
You give up the power passenger seat w/o the LTD package, again not a big deal to me.
-juice
As for the 6 speed, you don't need one. I initially thought it would be nice, but after having the car for almost a year, a 6 speed would mean more shifting and this car has lots of power so that a 5 speed is plenty. A little more power probably isn't that big a deal either unless it's a substantial increase. (but I haven't heard anything about the GT getting more hp- the base model probably)
As for reliability, the GT probably won't be as reliable as an Acura, but of course, it's too early to tell. So I'm not sure that's a good reason to switch.
Good luck.
tom
My reasons for considering switching are different than yours - we just had our second child, and I would love to have a wagon for the extra cargo space and ease of loading, to complement the wife's SUV. I do want AWD too, though the TSX with snow tires has been just fine in Denver's relatively mild winters.
Unlike your experience, which I believe is the exception, I have had zero problems with my TSX. So, other than simply not wanting to replace so quickly a car that has been rock-solid for me, here are my hesitations on replacing the TSX with the LegGT/Outback XT:
1) While I gain cargo room with the wagon, I would prefer a roomier interior as well (I'm 6' 3"). The Legacy doesn't seem to offer any advantage here over the TSX.
2) The new Legacy interior is indeed very nice and much improved over the last gen, but I still prefer the TSX interior.
3) The power difference is, obviously, amazing between the two cars. But with that said, for most of the around-town driving, the TSX is a real fun car to drive. I had to get used to it, but if you know how to work that high-reving engine, the car feels pretty quick. 6 speed is, IMO, essential to the car. I can't say I ever drove the auto trannie, but it seems to me a TSX with the auto misses the point of the car altogether.
4) I'm hoping the 2006 or 2007 Legacy gets a 6 speed and perhaps a telescoping steering wheel. Perhaps an improved auto climate system (I've heard there are some bugs?)
So, there's some food for thought on why you may want to just keep the TSX. With that said though, I've got $400 in Subarubucks, and counting, figuring that I will eventually come back to the Subaru family.
Take care.
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2024 Corvette - 2024 BMW X5 - 2023 Tesla Model Y
The Subaru Bucks referred to above come with a Chase credit card, you get 3% of purchases. What's really nice is that you can use them to buy accessories, parts, or even pay for service. You don't have to save them up to buy another Subaru, who knows what your needs will be in a few years, you might need a minivan and Subaru doesn't make one!
Just spent $100 Subaru Bucks on a tune-up kit for the Legacy, filters for the HVAC, and some oil filters. From an on-line vendor, no problem, just mailed it to them.
-juice
Yes I could be the exception and it may not be the car and maybe the dealer which is why I will probably try another dealer before I bail. Although admittingly I have yet to have any machanical failure, and at first thought, that is a major reason to KEEP a car. I have had little annoyance after little annoyance and they are starting to add up on me.. again not ready to bail YET however I need to start preparing the worst.
bobdle2:
are you asking or are you debating if they should be? (mem seats, zenon lights)
Memory seats and a telescoping wheel are among the most often mentioned requests. But Tribeca got neither.
-juice
Craig
Craig
The check is made out to me but i don't see anything about it being nontransferable.
Thanks,
axjoke1
Craig
I bought a tune-up kit, some extra filters, an HVAC filter, and some other stuff. They even sell T-shirts, bike racks, trailer hitches, skid plates, you name it.
It would not be hard at all to spend that much. Subaru pretty much carries any roof rack that Yakima sells, they just re-badge it as Subaru OE.
Or pay for oil changes. The catch? You have to spend $100 at a time at least, so just use the remaining amount to order a Subaru logo'd LL Bean jacket or something.
-juice
My wife noticed a bit of a rattle coming from the B-pillar couldn't tell for sure if it was coming from the trim or the seatbelt mount but definately from the B-pillar area. I also noticed that the B-pillar on her side was much looser then the B-pillar on my side.. Being that I am paranoid of constant rattles (as ONE OF the reasons why I am considering trading out my TSX) has anyone heard of this being a major problem or is it just that car? But as I mentioned before the B-pillar trim on the passenger side was definately a bit looser to the touch and tap so that could be all it was (just need tightened up, and the fact that the driver's side was quiet..
I guess I am looking for bad rattles (especially unsolved ones) coming from the car.. rattles here and there are okay.. rattles that are right next to the ear are not Okay..
other then that the car was fun to drive solid in driving and in corning and man does it have power!!!!! I was also surprised on how muted the turbo was (haven't decided if that is a good or a bad thing yet )
again thanks for your time!
Was that car a demo, i.e. with miles from test drives? Those can get beat on pretty badly.
If rattles are the only concern, though, keep the TSX and crank up that stereo.
The turbo does mellow out the boxer's exhaust note, in fact I think it's quieter than the normally aspirated boxers.
-juice
it isn't the only concern.. it is one of many.. the rattles just kind of make the other things unexceptable..
it was a demo.. and like I said it did feel looser in that passenger side then it did the driver's not TOO concerned about it.. however I thought I would through the question out there and see what happens...
Ya I have heard that the turbo will quiet up the exhaust.. I was more talking about the turbo whistle.. I am surprised I didn't hear it.. I am over it.. I am just surprised...
and consumer reports is worth a lot.. as far as reliability!! that is one reason why I am considering it.. Also the aussie's love them.. and I am sure that country can be pretty hard on a car depending on location..
2005 is the first model year, v1.0 if you will. You may want to wait until the 2006 models are out. A Nav option will be added, too.
Aussies are lucky, they still get Subies with low ranges on them, can you believe it? Plus they have the roads to really push them off road. The police there use WRXs as pursuit cars, even.
-juice
Nav option isn't what I am waiting on but ya never hurts to get a second iteration of something..
ya they are lucky with some of the cars they have and some of the places they have to drive them.. (oh and the weather).. anyway at least I get to visit often..
My father was just in town and he owns a TSX. I let him drive the LGT wagon again and he's amazed at the difference in power delivery (both are autos).
The turbo spool is very quiet especially compared to a WRX. I need to have the windows closed and the stereo off to just barely make out the "pssssssssst" sound coming from behind the glovebox.
Ken
Nice to here that no unfixable rattles have come up!! also glad to hear yours is doing so well!! I would guess that a wagon would even have a bit more places that rattles could come up. That said with out any actual knowledge or history between sedan/wagon comparisons.. just seems like more interior more places for problems... (I would be getting a sedan)
so your father has a tsx, has he had any issues with it?? other then rattles and fit and finish.. I must say that I have had no mechanical problem as of yet.. but now that I am thinking of switching I must say I wouldn't mind the extra power the Legacy offers:)
bodble2
I also agree that the TSX is a bit underpowered however just throwing a V-6 in the car might be a bad idea given the excellent dynamics of the car! a V-6 would definately change the weight distribution.. don't know what the solution for more power is but I wouldn't want much more weight in the front of that car
Ken
Subaru, unlike Acura, races their cars.
Also, Subaru has a Legacy model with sport suspension and a 250 hp or so H-6.
Subaru races in WRC, but they use the Impreza platform. Even then they're thinking about using a smaller car to compete with the compacts the French makes are using.
To be fair, in Group N rally competition they pretty much do use stock Subarus with just a roll cage.
-juice
Subaru has one in the US right now that is probably being evaluated and tested, so it might make it here in '06.
-juice
I prefer the turbo engine on the Legacy GT, but the H6 for the Outback. I think that's how the engines and the character of the cars match up.
-juice
Thanks Ateixeira.
-juice