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And why not just add the supercharger to the I4 in there now? By the time you do all that work to transplant the V6, transmission, etc, you would have been able to get a 330i coupe.
~alpha
Why not keep the same hp and decrease the engine size slowly so the thing is more nimble and efficient?
I don't think so. If oil prices keep going up as they are right now, the opposite could happen. Just like it happened back in the early 70's.
This bodes well for the next-generation Camry, however, as it is slated to be built on a variation of the new Avalon's chassis architecture, and from what I've been told, feature a version of the powerful new 3.5-litre V6 in its top trim level
The article is an Avalon review for a Canadian magazine. It mentions that the next generation Camry will be based on the 05 Avalon platform and will likely get the 3.5 L v6 from the Avalon.
That would be awesome. Although I am sure it probably will be detuned to produce 20 less hp. Looks like the 3.3L engine will be history by the time the next generation Camry arrives.
Good question especially since the upcoming IS can also be equipped with the 3.5L V6. I think the 3.0L engine probably won't last more than two model years. Isn't Lexus working on a GS 350 ?
~alpha
I've looked at the new '05 Avalon. It is nice, but I'm a bit surprised they didn't badge it as an '06 model. That would seem to make more sense. Some of the folks on the Avalon board say they might postpone buying until the '06 model is available, presumeably in 5 months or so. The new Avalon seems to be selling very nicely; especially the Limited trim level, which appears to be in short supply. I've driven the new Avalon, and there is some torque pull that's obvious when you accelerate rapidly. I think 280 hp would be too much for the smaller Camry, but many are suggesting a variant of this motor might be used.
I've shopped for an Avalon, but I really don't need this big a boat. That's why I'm wondering if it's wise to wait a bit to see what the new Camry will be like. Any images or links to images would be appreciated. Regards - T Reynard
Also, any word or pictures on what the 2007 Camry will look like and what features it might have available? Hopefully, it will be larger, still provide a great smooth 4 cylinder with even better gas mileage, and have more safety features likes VSC and knee air bags available on the 4 cylinder model in all parts of the country. I know, given toyota's marketing strategy, all the things we want will never be available in one area.
Also, why doesn't Toyota drop those terribly cheap Bridgestone Potenza tires and put something on that has a much higher mileage rating? Makes no sense to build one of the best more reliable vehicles in the world and then put cheaper tires on it when other options that are reasonably prices are available.
Thanks!
Just like the 97-01 Camry, ABS was a standard feature across all LE. But I think since 02, it's either a option or part of a package in order to get ABS. The idea of selecting package is the way they make up the profile. Seriously, how many people will really buy a barebone LE out of the dealership.
Toyota has a 10 yr cost reduction plan since 6-7 years ago (I read it from a newspaper while they were talking about troubles GM is having).
~alpha
I'd be VERY surprised if Toyota a) not only had a redesign in Jan 06 but b) had a hybrid model at the time, with capacity to meet 20% of sales.
(20% of sales at the current yearly volume hovering around 385K units would be 77,000 units).
~alpha
Wasn't the 01 remodel just a refresh? Also a new 06 model would come the 4 year mark which is about on schedule.
And like the 1997 Camry, I would expect the 2007 will basically be a new body on the same platform, probably with a version of the new V6 that's now in the Avalon. The 1992 and 2002 models were the ones that got the major reworks.
http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_toyota.asp
I ended up with a brand new version (never titled) of the last generation Maxima. (Infiniti I35)
http://home.comcast.net/~lmacmil/images/CamrySE.JPG
If it does come out early, it may be a warmed over version of the current ones in use in the RX/HL, with far better milage due to much lower weight. An improved, new engine version would make a mid-gen refresh in 2008-9, which would probably be 3.5, and debut in the next HL in 2008.
Strange that the market has pretty much rejected the Accord Hybrid, and fallen for the Prius so hard.
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Toyota was smart enough to watch Honda rush to the midsize hybrid market with the Accord and fall right on their face. They can't just do an upper end one. That would puch the Camry up into Lexus territory, and I have no doubt that there will be an ES hybrid someday relatively soon....
Also, unlike Honda, Toyota already has several V-6 hybrids - Highlander and RX.
If Toyota wants to mainstream the hybrid, then the 4-cyl Camry is the way to go.
Personally a 4-cyl Camry hybrid would be at the top of my list (if they had a wagon that would be better) if it had a manual transmission. I would not even bother to look at a V-6 hybrid - too expensive and minimal (if any) improvement in mpg over a manual tranny 4-cyl.
Honda is coming out with a new larger Civic this fall that will have a hybrid and a manual tranny, so that is a possibility as well.
Honestly I would take a manual Camry over an automatic BMW. I drove my brothers automatic 530i and just did not get the whole push on the gas and let the car shift thing. Yes it has whatevertronic, but that is pointless - shifting for show.
The Prius is quite roomy, and I love the hatch (as I said wagons are my preference and hatches are a close second). The Camry is still quite a bit roomier. The hatch area (up to the ceiling) is included in EPA class measurements, so that is why the Prius is in the same category as the Camry.
As far as acceleration goes - don't forget that all the comparisons that may show the Prius to be not very far behind the Camry are comparing two automatics. The manual Camry is about a second faster to 60 than the automatic.
~alpha
For me though, a Camry standard with the manual tranny at 16.5k and sometimes 15.9k is even better. I much prefer to not have a spoiler or a sunroof, and I don't like silver gauges (not enough contrast). I wouldn't mind the suspension of the SE though, but 3-4k buys a lot of tires shocks etc.
The only thing I really miss would be the keyless entry, but that is pretty minor since I live in a town where it is not necessary to lock you car.
~alpha