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Honda Civic Sedan 2006

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  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    Watch out for its rear Double Wishbones. It doesn't have any.

    So the ride comfort will suffer in order to keep similar level of handling.

    & this is one reason why last week I had to buy an used '00 hatch in order to get the comfy DW suspension all around. Now w/ the linear-valving Gabriel Ultra struts installed instead of the progressive-valving OEM units, the car rides even comfier w/ a "firm & resilient", rather than "squishy then choppy" Japanese-style, Euro-like ride.

    I need a super-short car b/c I am shipping it to a crowded city abroad. The older Civic is also narrow enough to evade Japan's "wide-car tax" w/ a width of under 170cm (5'7"). Being an owner of a comfy little car is something to be proud of!
  • disappoiteddisappoited Member Posts: 13
    the high dash keep you from seeing the hood and that area in front of the hood where you need to see unless you do not care if there a small child in front of you
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    OK, you're not driving a rear-engine VW micro-bus. Experiment this:

    Trim a piece of a big cardboard box & place it on top of the hood of an '06 Civic so it'll shape square-ish just like a Scion xB. You will still not be able to see the same small child in front of the bumper. :P

    & I'm pretty sure the height of the dashboard does make a difference. So the best thing to do is avoiding the moonroof & get the LX so you can raise the driver seat all the way high in order to see that child's hair. ;)
  • playplay Member Posts: 38
    creakid1, I do believe you are on to something. Why not just put big boxes on each corner of the vehicle.

    It's a win-win situation. Oh yeah, you could also attach little American flags, just like on the gas gulping, national defense threatening SUV's.

    Whats not to like about that? ;)
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Actually, the Civic has a very low cowl and dash compared to some competitors, e.g. the Corolla. The best way to avoid hitting someone is attentiveness while driving, to see them before they dash out in front of you. Once they are in front of you, close enough to be blocked from sight, you have no chance of avoiding them.
  • yesrohyesroh Member Posts: 290
    No! You get the moonroof, and then stick your head out of the car when you park.

    Oh right...I forgot...I wasn't supposed to talk about this anymore...
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Very nice thinking creakid1. Let's go a step further, and have the whole car made out of Nerf. Just think of the Advertisements:

    No door dings! Play ball with part of your car's fender!

    Wait, Saturn basically did that. Oh. never mind. You are right about the low hood thing. The argument that disappointed makes is not a vaild one. He complains about the low, rounded hood. This affects mainly how close he plans to park or scoot up behind someone in traffic. So what he is saying, best I can tell, is this.

    He plans to stop for children dashing out in the road, but he won't know how much closer he can pull up to them before he stops to get out and scold them. Last time an object leapt into my path, I stopped well back from it. I guess I was being wasteful by not pulling right up to the cat before stopping. Is this true?

    Sorry if my sarcasm isn't funny to ya, but in all honesty, it's not supposed to be. I am just restating what I think disappointed said. Anyone care to respond? I'm open to criticism!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    I was amazed at the room in this car versus my 1996 Accord. It is slightly MORE roomy than my car. Very nice to me, since I am 6'5", 195 pounds. It had the sunroof (EX), and I had plenty of headroom. I couldn't say that of the 04 Civic I rode in. As far as the interior design goes, I was INCREDIBLY surprised for the better after seeing it in person. The wheel is nice and small, and could be adjusted for MY long torso to see all gauges properly. BRAVO, HONDA!!!
  • yesrohyesroh Member Posts: 290
    Light interior colors and lots of glass make the interior look larger than it really is. I doubt it's actually larger, considering the 1996 Accord is an inch wider, eight inches longer, and has more trunk space and a much larger engine in displacement. It's not likely you could fit more interior room into the Civic...but...you may be right. I just think the odds are against it. I suppose it's more important to think you have more room than to actually have more room, right? Comfort is all perception! Like I always say...I'd rather think I'm happy than to know I'm sad.

    Did the windshield come up to your forehead?
  • creakid1creakid1 Member Posts: 2,032
    I really thought my car already hit the object. Thank God it didn't...

    To be honest, I did (or about to) stick flag poles on both sides of my front bumper of all my cars except the old boxy '84 Jetta. I even place a little marker on the right rear corner of my trunk (just like an '91 S-class) if it doesn't have a rear spoiler. People are amazed how I perform especially in parking lots -- fewer backing up than anyone else!
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    Don't forget to use a throwaway email address instead of your normal one. That will cut down on junk messages.
  • snakerbillsnakerbill Member Posts: 272
    Really nice little car. No squeaks or rattles, smooth ride, nice shifting auto, but this car has no power compared to my 05 Accord EX V6 Coupe which gets 32 MPG on the hiway at the speed limit, and I would gladly pay the 8 MPG penalty to have the Accords performance. Trying to pass on a two lane hiway with the Civic is an exercise in terror, it takes too long. I will just keep what I have and be happy. 9.5 to sixty is just too slow in todays traffic. The Accord is almost 3 seconds quicker, and is well worth the extra fuel cost, and the better suspension and interior quality is worth the price of admission. This is, of course, my opinion, and others will probably see it differently, but then, this is a country where one has a choice.
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    My wife and I just got back from Honda Corporate's Civic Live Guest Drive event at Randall's Island in NYC this morning. It was their second of two days. They are headed for five more cities here:

    http://www.eshots.com/civiclive/drive.htm

    It was a blast! We arrived at 9 AM and drove the 2006 EX ATX Sedan with Navigation, LX ATX Coupe and a pre-production Si 6-Speed MTX Coupe.... MULTIPLE TIMES around the twisties at the test track they had set up in a huge parking lot. Since there were only a few people there that early, we had plenty of opportunities to swap back and forth between any of the cars. They had a second track set up where we drove an Accord ATX Hybrid, Accord 6-Speed MTX Coupe and Ridgeline truck (That one was too mushy for me). They also had Elements and Odysseys available.

    I was very impressed with the handling, features and quality of all of the Civics. They felt much like my 2004 Accord Coupe, and had many of its amenities.

    If you are near any of the next five events, I'd recommend going. You must pre-register online.
  • bcmalibu99lsbcmalibu99ls Member Posts: 625
    Hi, all!

    Those of you who have test-driven the new Civic, or maybe have seen the pictures, do the back seats fold completely flat, or not?

    Thank you!
  • terrasyncterrasync Member Posts: 3
    yes, it is a bottom hinged pedal and it is much more convenient to drive....
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    You could be right, yesroh. But in my car, I can't sit behind myself at all. In the Civic, all it took was a little squeezing. The windshield? Hmm, didn't pay a lot of attention to that, but the thing I noticed was how bent my knees were behind the wheel: Much less so that when I'm in my accord. My car IS wider, and you can feel that inside, but the length of the cabin is basically the same IMO. the trunk is much smaller than my accord though. I think that must be where the interior space was donated from.

    BTW, the fact that the seat can be made higher meant more legroom for me. My LX accord (96) doesen't have any height adjustment to its seat, meaning I am on the ground all the time. If it would jack up three inches, I would be more comfy. I have plenty of headroom to do that, too!
  • terrasyncterrasync Member Posts: 3
    sr45.......the price was 20, 099 (7.5% tax in nevada) out the door and the navigation one was exaclty a 1000 bucks extra.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    The pedal is bottom hinged, but that just makes it different to me, not necessarily better. If i purchased one like that, it would be my first car that I had ever driven like so. May I ask why it's more "convienient"? Not challenging you, just curious!
  • steveoregonsteveoregon Member Posts: 41
    Does anyone know anything about the security system that comes with these cars? Can someone who's already brought one - see if there is anything in their owners manual that gives details on what the security system covers?

    I went down to my local Honda dealer this morning. Beaverton Honda (Portland Oregon suburb) loves to add "adjusted market value", in this case $595. They also installed what is likely an unnecessary optional security system for $695.

    The window sticker clearly says "security system". I hope that's more than just the engine imobilizer.
    Full Size Sticker Photo Here

    I always have an alarm on my car, but won't add one if the default security system is enough.

    Steve
  • stupidfoolstupidfool Member Posts: 53
    i didn't get a chance to test drive any car cuz they sold out in all dealerships in my area :-( when will the coupes get here i thought their was a 2 day release difference...
  • natenj1971natenj1971 Member Posts: 174
    No info on their doc fee. Didn't see a mag metallic in their online inventory but give them a call as those web sites are never up to date. I tried to buy a car from them and they were a nice group, but couldn'tdecide what to do with my car. Elaine was very patient with me, more helpful then anyone I have ever met at a dealer.

    Good luck!
  • widow1widow1 Member Posts: 39
    Talked with the NJ dealership. All they had was a 2005 EX coupe. One dealer in Minneapolis said he had done a 5 state search for an 2005 EX sedan automatic and come up wanting. Best I've found so far was a 2005 EX sedan special edition with 4k someone traded in on a 2006 Civic. That was at Penske Honda in Indianapolis. Afraid the 2005 Civic EX sedan in an automatic has move from "endangered species" status to "extinct."
  • bcmalibu99lsbcmalibu99ls Member Posts: 625
    Steve, thank you for the pic of the sticker. What I find buffling is that the sticker states that 70% of the vehicle parts have Canadian/US origin, yet the final assembly was in Japan. What it says is that 70% of the parts were shipped from North America to Japan, then the vehicle was assembled there, and then shipped back to USA. Strange. Just think about the additional costs Honda sustained due to shipping back and forth

    Moreover, the word was that the new Civic would be assembled in Ontario. Why is this one coming from Japan? A mystery
  • wsurround1wsurround1 Member Posts: 5
    Hello..Steve... I have just purchased the LX auto last Monday. I too was confused about the security system, prior to the purchase, because the salesman said it did "not come with an alarm system. and said i need the 695.00 honda system.. . Anyway...I've got the owners manuel here and i'll type what it says:

    SECURITY SYSTEM...
    ON US LX AND EX MODELS

    THE SECURITY SYSTEM HELPS TO PROTECT YOUR VEHICLE AND VALUABLES FROM THEFT. THE HORN SOUNDS AND A COMBINATION OF HEADLIGHTS , PARKING LIGHTS, SIDE MARKER LIGHTS, AND TAIL LIGHTS FLASH IF SOMEONE ATTEMPTS TO BREAD INTO YOUR VEHICLE OR REMOVE THE RADIO. THIS ALARM CONTINUES FOR 2 MINUTES, THEN IT STOPS. TO RESET AN ALARMING SYSTEM BEFORE THE 2 MINUTES HAVE ELAPSED, UNLOCK THE DRIVERS DOOR WITH THE KEY OR THE REMOTE TRANSMITTER.
    THE SECURITY SYSTEM AUTOMATICALLY SETS 15 SECS AFTER YOU LOCK THE DOORS, HOOD, AND TRUNK. FOR THE SYSTEM TO ACTIVATE, YOU MUST LOCK THE DOORS FROM THE OUTSIDE WITH THE KEY, DRIVERS LOCK TAB, DOOR LOCK SWITCH, OR REMOTE TRANSMITTER. THE SECURITY SYSTEM INDICATOR ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL STARTS BLINKING IMMEDIATELY TO SHOW YOU THE SYSTEM IS SETTING ITSELF. ONCE THE SECURITY SYSTEM IS SET, OPENING ANY DOOR, THE TRUNK, OR THE HOOD WITHOUT USING THE KEY OR THE REMOTE TRANSMITTER WILL CAUSE IT TO ALARM. IT ALSO ALARARMS IF THE RADIS REMOVED FROM THE DASHBOARD OR THE WIRING IS CUT.
    WITH THE SYTEM SET, YOU CAN STILL OPEN THE TRUNK WITH THE MASTER KEY OR THE REMOTE TRASMITTER WITHOUT TRIGGERING THE ALARM. THE ALARM WILL SOUND IF THE TRUNK LOCK IS FORCED, OR THE TRUNK IS OPENED WITH THE TRUNK RELEASE HANDLE.
    THE SECURITY SYSTEM WILL NOT SET IF THE HOOD, TRUNK, OR ANY DOOR IS NOT FULLY CLOSED. IF THE SYSTEM WILL NOT SET, CHECK THE DOOR AND TRUNK OPEN INDICATIORS ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL TO SEE IF THE DOORAS ARE FULLY CLOSED. SINCE IT IS NOT PART OF THE MINITOR DISPLAY, MANUELLY CHECK THE HOOD....

    The major thing I see over paying the 700.00 for the full blown system, is that the more expensive unit has glass breakage detector.....I don't need such a full blown feature, since my car is in the garage, just need something to cover me for the hours I'm out shopping on the street....There our two red lights flashing in the car when the alarm is set..one next to radio, and a large red flashing light on the dash next to the speedometer...hope this helps...

    I've been reading this forum and see how the 2006 civic is getting trashed by alot of folks.... My last car which I've owned for 19.5 years is the first generation acura integra with 315,000 miles on it. During these years, I've looked at more new cars that I can count. Looking for, reliability, mileage, and style..all within a reasonable price...well, when I saw this new car last week, that same feeling came over me, that I felt 20 years ago. If you have any other questions, let me know.
    PS>....just refilled the tank at 375 miles......there's still 2.5 gallons left in the 13 gallon tank..so I'm getting in the mid 30 mpg.....combination 75 percent freeway, 25 percent city driving......Bill
  • steveoregonsteveoregon Member Posts: 41
    Thank you, thank you for taking the time to post that.

    As I suspected, the optional security system is just a way for the dealer to make a profit.

    Steve
  • jchan2jchan2 Member Posts: 4,956
    added $$$.

    Wait 6 months. Prices will come down.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda-Civic-EX-2004-Honda-Civic-EX-3-500-miles-auto-warrant- y_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6256QQitemZ4575737383QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

    Here's a Honda Civic EX. Circa 2005. 4 Doors and an automatic too.
  • podunk503podunk503 Member Posts: 45
    Has anyone seen what the key looks like? I'm wondering if it is like the accord where the fob and key are together or if they are seperate. The less I have to put on my key chain the better. Oh, anything about operating the windows via the keyless entry remote? Thanks :)
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Yes, key and fob are together.

    I didn't see any button on the remote for windows. Just lock/unlock and panic--not even a trunk opener (on the LX). :(
  • podunk503podunk503 Member Posts: 45
    I know that with the accord's key you can hold down the unlock button to lower the windows to vent the car if needed. Just wondering if the civic had this feature. Yeah the trunk opener on the remote I guess is only available on the EX.
  • drexelnetdrexelnet Member Posts: 47
    Hey wsurround1,

    I am planning to purchase a 2006 Honda Civic LX sedan automatic sometime in early October. I have been hearing that the materials on the Civics are very cheap, like the cloth on the seats and the dashboard are all hard plastic, similar in a chevy cabolt or dodge neon. In addition, when you open the doors, are there metals exposing out on the edge of the seats? BTW - In Philly, dealerships are pricing the 06 Civic LX sedan at $17,390.

    Thank you very much
  • gearjammer62gearjammer62 Member Posts: 108
    Well, duh. Of course a V6 with 240HP will be quicker than a 4 cyl with 140 HP. I seriously doubt anyone is going to cross-shop a 2-door V6 Accord coupe with a 4-cyl Civic 4-door sedan, anyway.

    Obviously, passing might seem to take "too long" compared to the more powerfull V6 Accord. But, to those currently driving other 4-cyl cars, the Civic's performance - passing or otherwise, may not take "too long" at all. It may even be faster, depending on what they may be currently driving.

    The price difference between a LX Civic Sedan and an Accord LX V-6 Coupe - almost $9,000!!! Comparing these two completely different cars and engines -$9,000 apart in price - makes no sense at all. What's next - driving a Chrysler HEMI and a PT Cruiser, and then concluding, " Gee, what a surpsrise - one is faster than the other?"!?
  • drummerboy_200drummerboy_200 Member Posts: 44
    Yes, the Civic key is the same as the Accord key. Ex has trunk release. I didn't test to see if it had the vent feature like my Accord has (unlock twice and hold) when I looked at the Civics this weekend. Sticker was MSRP on the EX I looked at. I'm sure I can get a decent discount in a few more weeks when they can't sell them as fast as they are comming in. I got my 04 Accord from this same dealer for $1300 under MSRP in early Sept 03.
  • wsurround1wsurround1 Member Posts: 5
    I did test drive the EX 4 door when it first arrived 2 Fridays ago, and then I test drove the LX...on Sunday....and purchased the LX monday. Couldn't remember much of a difference between seat materials between the two models, The dash looked identical, except the test EX had the navigation system. The seats on both cars were alittle firm, but I've gotten used to it by now. The dash is textured gray plastic, c, not the rubbery soft stuff that my 20 yr old integra uses. Also, my 20 yr old integra had nicer interior multi colored cloth side front door panels, the LX uses standard plastic. I did check out the interiors of the mazda 3 and corolla le, and neon....liked the 2006 honda much,much better...Did not notice any sharp edges on the doors or seats, very thick rubber gasket material between door and body. The door panel is quite thick, and closes with a solid thunk. The mechanism that moves the seat forward and back, is kind of flimsy, but once you set it, its okay..maybe that's what someone is talking about. The only visible places I see where some cost saving is on my LX is:
    Door handles, our plastic both interior and exterior, the rear hood is not a gas strut, but cheaper metal hinge, the rear seat is not a split folding type on LX, the radio antennae is put into the rear window, which makes am and fm reception only so so, however cd is fine), the rear view mirror, is a simple manuel flip model for night and day driving, and the front door panel, has a single one piece plastic unit, with a not too attractive plastic cover for the front speakers (luckily hidden near floor level)...but overall these our very minor quibbles, which I definitely can live with.......Bill
  • drexelnetdrexelnet Member Posts: 47
    Thank you very much for the quick response, I was just curious b/c I read so many review, which said that the materials that were used in the 2006 civic models were very cheap, especially with the dash being plastic instead of using the rubbery soft material. For around $17,400, I would think that they would use the rubbery stuff. I wonder if the 2005 civic or 2005 accord used those rubbery soft materials or was it all hard plastic. Thanks alot.
  • 307web307web Member Posts: 1,033
    Why are you comparing 0-60 times with a car that has 100HP more and is in a different price class anyway?
    Also, you say you get 32MPG when the EPA mileage rating is 29 on the highway, yet you choose to compare that to only the EPA number on the Civic.
    If you get 32 on the Accord V6, then you should get about 44MPG on the Civic with the same bias over EPA estimates.
    12MPG difference is very significant and you will also have a very big difference during city driving. Even "only" 8 mpg would add up to a lot over the term of ownership.
    Plenty of people drive cars with less acceleration than the new Civic and don't even need to use all the available power in those cars.
  • drummerboy_200drummerboy_200 Member Posts: 44
    Interesting thing I noticed on the sticker of a 06 EX sedan this weekend. MPG was listed as a range of 25-35mpg city and 34-46mpg highway. It'll be interesting to see if this has any validity.
  • drexelnetdrexelnet Member Posts: 47
    Wsurround1,

    BTW - When you look at the mazda 3 and corrolla LE, did they also used standard hard plastic on their dashboards and interior or did they used the rubbery soft stuff? And on your 06 Civic LX, is an already install security system build into the car?

    Thanks
  • 307web307web Member Posts: 1,033
    Usually that range is referring to other cars in the same class.
  • drummerboy_200drummerboy_200 Member Posts: 44
    "Usually that range is referring to other cars in the same class."

    What? :confuse:

    Seems to me like they just took Honda's estimates of 30/40 and did a plus-minus 5 range for city and a plus-minus 6 range for highway. They probably only did it because their is no official EPA estimates yet. Why or how would they be refering to other cars?
  • wsurround1wsurround1 Member Posts: 5
    Checked the mazda 3 about 6 months ago, and the corolla le about 3 months ago...think they were hard plastic on dash...but don't quote me on it. The climate control on the mazda 3 i saw, and the le corolla used the rotary controls, don't think they our electronic but wire activated for switching air to different ducts....I much prefer the electronic controls on the honda. My 20 yr old acura integra uses the electronic climate control system, and it still works perfectly today, Above all,. I really like how well integrated the whole dashboard is on this generation civic,its very elegant looking, not something one sees in what really is an entry level car......One thing I can say..is the interior and exterior of the car in my opinion looks much better in person that what you see on pictures from hondas website., .......Bill
  • bcmalibu99lsbcmalibu99ls Member Posts: 625
    Drummer, read the sticker carefully. It lists for Civic in very large numbers: 30 mpg city, and 40 mpg highway. And then it says something like: "for comparison purposes, other cars in this class get 25-35 mpg city, and 35-45 mpg highway."

    To all owners of '06 Civic - does the rear seat fold completely flat, or what is the deal there? Thank you :)
  • wsurround1wsurround1 Member Posts: 5
    Sorry...its been a long day.....yes, as I previously stated in my post about 10 back...my 2006 LX does come with a basic ..security system. The car was so new, that the sales guy thought it didn't contain a security system, only the engine immobilizer. However, per reading the owners manuel...both the LE and EX models, come with a basic alarm, that is activated by either illegal entry of the doors, trunk , hood, or stealing the radio, or cutting the radio wire connection. It will sound the horn and lights.....
    Honda does offer a factory installed full blown alarm system, that contains glass breakage detection....and other features, that will connect to existing wiring harnesses already installed in the car. The cost quoted to me is around 695.00.....I just needed something basic, which the LX has included. Bill
  • drummerboy_200drummerboy_200 Member Posts: 44
    This sticker did not list 30/40 anywhere on it. I would have noticed giant black numbers. I'll have to double check the fine print around the range.

    About the rear seats, what do you consider completely flat. I believe there was a slight incline when I played with them over the weekend, but I wasn't paying too close attention to them.
  • steveoregonsteveoregon Member Posts: 41
    MPG - what it actually says:

    Sticker
  • filmnewsfilmnews Member Posts: 18
    It is the same quality for a lower price. Also, the car looks a little better.
  • nippononlynippononly Member Posts: 12,555
    tC starts at $17K, Civic starts at $15K.

    The new Civic is fab. It will jump to the head of the class now, perhaps tied with the Mazda3, although ahead on safety equipment. The only issues it will face are being the priciest in class now and public acceptance of that weird digital speedo.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • sr45sr45 Member Posts: 144
    Thanks terrasync....Here in Florida Clearwater area, they are not dealing and now won't return my e-mail and the phone contacts are going no where. So I bought a Corolla instead.....
  • stupidfoolstupidfool Member Posts: 53
    when will they show up? :mad: :mad: :mad:
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Member Posts: 2,798
    Really nice little car. No squeaks or rattles, smooth ride, nice shifting auto, but this car has no power compared to my 05 Accord EX V6 Coupe which gets 32 MPG on the hiway at the speed limit, and I would gladly pay the 8 MPG penalty to have the Accords performance. Trying to pass on a two lane hiway with the Civic is an exercise in terror, it takes too long. I will just keep what I have and be happy. 9.5 to sixty is just too slow in todays traffic. The Accord is almost 3 seconds quicker, and is well worth the extra fuel cost, and the better suspension and interior quality is worth the price of admission. This is, of course, my opinion, and others will probably see it differently, but then, this is a country where one has a choice.

    Civic Si with a manual will perform as fast as Accord V6 Auto. But that would require the driver to actually do something little while driving, like SHIFTING gears and PRESSING the clutch pedal, rather than the simple point-and-shoot approach automatics offer. The 2002 Si offered 7.6 0-60, and the RSX-S offered 6.8 seconds. The 2006 Si, will no doubt be as fast as the RSX-S if not faster.

    Speed/accelration and automatic tranny don't belong in the same sentence.
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