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I think Toyota is aiming five-door hatchback buyers to the Scion xA and xB models, though I think the current xA could be replaced by a new model based on the Toyota Ractis "tall wagon" that just started sales in Japan a few days ago.
Yaris will be sold in both 3- and 5-door models, and come in three trim
levels including CE, LE, and the sporty RS grade. Manufacturer's Suggested
Retail (MSRP) price for the 3-door Yaris with manual transmission will start
at just $13,580 for the CE trim level, $14,175 for the Yaris LE, and $16,880
for the 3-door Yaris RS. MSRP for the 5-door Yaris LE will be $14,910; at the
RS trim level, pricing will start at $17,615.
Come on. Why the hell would they no make side airbags available in Canada?
OK, I think I've got the picture for American Echo's...ooops...I mean American Yaris' now. It will be called Yaris, and we'll get the 3-door and 4-door sedan. I will target the 4-door sedan and the fact that side airbags are not offered will not deter my interest at all. Judging by those Canadian Yaris prices above the price point for America for a well-equipped 5-speed 4-door Yaris should be in the $13,999 range, give or take a whisker or a hair each way. Very good to hear.
BTW-if the 4-door American Yaris in 5-speeds, well-equipped, were to cost $14,499, I'd still go test drive one. If it pops up to around $15,000, I'll look back at a Scion xA with interest. I think this thing is starting to form into some kind of shape .
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All the trims over $15K should have curtain airbags and ABS, though.
Leather has been an option for a couple of years now in the Corolla. I wonder if they would do a factory leather option in a Yaris RS. Not that I would want that.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
For one thing, like backy has mentioned, Kia is already offering side airbags standard on all of it's new Spectra models. And if I recall correctly, the new 2006 Rio may have them, too, although not standard like on the new Spectra's.
Toyota should probably match up-and-comer Kia and offer SAB's standard and also offer side curtains standard by the time the 2008 Echo/Yaris/Vitz' hit the production lines. Eh?
When is Canada's Tragically Hip gonna hit the road and tour again, too? That is some real news that I could really use.
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At 75K, all the expensive stuff is just giving up the ghost for the first time in the BMW, including some super-expensive Bosch electricals that your mechanic won't even be able to FIND! :-P
poorjudd: beating everything in your class for crash protection is a powerful thing to be able to put in your ads, and that WON'T happen these days without having side curtains and SAB for side impacts. I am more ambivalent about the ABS, but I think most buyers think it should be part of a standard safety equipment complement. And, as pointed out, Honda can do it profitably in the Fit, and Hyundai can do it in the Accent. Why can't Toyota do it in the Yaris?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I can understand why someone would buy the cheaper 3 door models, but I just don't understand paying Corolla money for a smaller, weaker 4 door sedan that gets essentially the same MPG (both in EPA estimates and real world testing most likely, if the numbers being thrown around here are true). IMO - There's no way this Yaris is going to get Echo-like real world MPG numbers with the size and weight increase it's seeing.
Can someone explain the benefits of buying the 4 door Yaris over a Corolla, if that is indeed what they decide to bring to the US?
Right, backy? I mean, duh!
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-Andrew L
Also, many people will still not trust Kia, Hyundai or Suzuki, but they will trust old buddies Honda or Toyota, so, the Yaris is a leg up to start with this demographic.
Being so good for so long does have its benefits in the continuity of sales department.
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The Yaris motor will be small, four-cylinders, very economical of fuel and lacking in passing power. Yeah, most all of us already knew that one. Did everybody know that Toyota was going with the xA's center-mounted instrument panel that will allow space for three separate glove compartments on the dash, along with Smart Entry and push-button Start systems?
Could this all be true? A truckload of safety features like the afore-mentioned ones for one sub-$15,000 price? The list above I found here on Edmunds Inside Line includes everything we've been talking about and were wondering if Toyota was gonna carry on the 2007 Toyota Yaris. This makes waiting for the upcoming Auto Show even more difficult!
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Also you have to take the info on future cars on Inside Line, or any of these kinds of sources, with a grain of salt. They aren't always accurate (e.g. their prognostications on the "all new" 2006 Hyundai Elantra, due this fall, which as we now know won't be all new until the 2007 model year in the fall of 2006).
I'd want a 5-speed with A/C, power W/D/M's, great stereo and quite possibly Orange Copper Mica color that we've discussed of late in here. Not to exceed $14,500. Anybody have a net link to that color that they can pop in here for everyone reading that really wants to know what it looks like but acts like I'm the one being lazy for not spending 4 hours looking for it?
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The Versa looks worse than the Yaris.
They should all be options, all this safety stuff adds weight, and at 2300 lbs, the Yaris isn't exactly a light car. The Echo weighed about 2100.
My question is, if the 2006 CE comes standard with rear wipers, are there options in the 2006 LE's that I'm not aware of? Most important for me was the power steering and rear wipers. If these come standard with CE then I'm switching.
What is the difference between CE and LE for 2005 and 2006?
I'm looking at the lowest cost with power steering and rear wipers.
Thanks.
BTW, I'm talking Canada.
In the US, apparently, but on Toyota Canada's website there is no mention of the side airbags, and in recent news from Canada, no mention either.
If it is true that side and curtain airbags are not offered in Canada, that's almost enough to make me go for the Honda Fit.
anyone living in the south where the temperature and humidity go into the 90's and in the south west where 100+ is common, an echo is a nightmare.
the yaris is a lot more pleasing to look at, but it's just an echo in a new body.
no matter how economical and reliable the echo is, it will soon wear thin on anyone that needs a good air conditioner.
this is why the corolla is so popular... you won't melt while driving it.
no matter how economical and reliable the echo is, it will soon wear thin on anyone that needs a good air conditioner.
The drivetrain might be a carryover from the Echo but the Yaris is an all-new design that owes nothing to the old Echo. I'm sure that Toyota has done high-temperature testing to ensure the air conditioner this time around will actually work correctly.
For everybody's information that doesn't know, also, the Scion xA is plopped on top of Yaris underpinnings. What is gonna be fun is seeing the 2007 Scion xA's new design. If Scion decides to keep it. The 2006 Scion xA is built on the Yaris' chassis and Scion slightly changes it's bodywork in the front and back, with stereo controls on the steering wheel, too, IIRC, with a possible other change here or there, nothing too much to speak of. Minor changes for 2006, but 2007 is supposed to be a new xA design. Fun-fun-fun!
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I don't think anyone said that. I did comment that I thought the CE 3-door was cute and might appeal to young women--I didn't say the Yaris would only appeal to young women. I had the '85 Civic with 76 hp also, 5-speed, and it was fun to drive. The Yaris 3-door reminds me a bit of that car. I still have the brochure from the '85 Civic--and it features a smiling young woman at the wheel, on the cover.
Also the Versa... ew... Nissan continues the design of placing fat butts on their cars, first the Quest, then the Maxima, now this. Do the French (Renault designers) have an obsession with big butts??
what makes you so sure? they allowed the echo run around the united states with bad air conditioning for years, why do you think this will change?
no matter how different the yaris is, it still has the same 108hp engine that won't turn an air conditioner enough to cool down a car on a hot day.
you can come back and tell me i'm wrong again, but you have nothing to base your statement on.
what i'm saying about the echo is a fact. you're statement about the yaris is only a hunch.
Do you really think that 108hp is not enough to power an air conditioner or did you just word that badly?
i based my assumption on the fact that most small 4cyl engines under 110hp have the same problem.
if i'm wrong, enlighten me.
But I did see the first advertisement reading that the 2006 Toyota's will be coming soon.
oooooooh, the waiting....
I should have it by the 19th.
The first thing I will check is the temp of the A/C