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There are also a few other plans, D plan, X plan and Z plan. If you are interested in finding out more about these plans. Just try a search for Ford A plan and see what you find.
Hope this helped
I understand your concern but as hot as the Mustang is now why would they want to sell it to you for less than the next person (which will probably be in the same day).
This discussion is ONLY about Prices Paid & Buying Experiences of the Mustang.
Thanks!
The other thing is that price is also ruled by demand. Right now, the supply is nowhere near able to keep up with the demand (for GTs, at least). That's why most dealers aren't willing to move off MSRP or higher. It's also why there's so much gouging going on, though I can't understand why there would be a markup on a V6 Mustang. Then again, it could be because the V6 has closed in on the GT in everything except power. Before, the V6 was as different from the GT as the GT was from the Cobra. Now, the V6 has the same suspension, interior treatments, etc. as the GT. Only thing missing is the snarly V8 and some exterior appointments.
At the risk of sounding selfish since I already have mine, I hope the pricing stays that way for a good, long while. It helps keep the value of my GT up. As soon as the market gets flooded with these cars, we are going to take a depreciation hit like crazy! I was one of the "lucky" ones who was able to get one "simply" at MSRP. Normally, I would've run right out the door. But in this case, it is loaded with every option, except automatic and spoiler delete, and it had never even been driven other than at the shipping yard and for PDI; she only had 4 miles on the odometer when I bought her. The peace of mind in knowing that I truly am the "only" one to have driven it was worth paying MSRP to me. I don't have to worry about how badly it was abused on test drives, how many people have been touching all over it, etc. If a problem crops up, I know that it is either a manufacturing defect or something that I did. I don't have to wonder what somebody else could've done to cause it or how much abuse it was put through to get to that point.
Peace of mind is a valuable thing.
An interesting letter and observations. Just wondering why you didn't try the 350Z or RX8?
If you haven't already tried, cross over to Northern VA. I bought my V6 at World of Ford on Route 1 (Richmond Highway) in Alexandria. They discount without a problem. I was able to buy on the Ford X plan when other dealers would not sell at that price.
I think the car is priced right at list, but less money is always better. I agree that at 2K over on a V6 the Maryland dealer will have lots of inventory.
Good luck.
I live in Sacramento, and the biggest dealer in town called me triumphantly on Sunday to tell me that they just got a few GT Convertibles.. they are marking them up $10K (but it's "negotiable").
So I decided to get some other car...
While researching the "other car" yesterday a salesperson at another local dealer told me "I have a GT Convertible on the way right now, should be here by the weekend". I winced and said "how much"? She said MSRP. I put the deposit down yesterday, and took delivery today.
I don't care what happens with this model in the future price-wise, I gotta say that this car at full MSRP is the best value I have ever seen in my life. It would be easy to spend $80K and not turn as many heads!
Anyway - just thought I'd share my .02.
By the way, the person who sold me the car said her dealership isn't doing "plan A" on GT Mustangs...
Enjoy your cars!!! Even if you paid a markup ... "so what". I'm happy you have an '05 Mustang and you should be too!!
I wanted a V8 only.
MSRP=$27,705
my X plan price=$25,485
I ordered it from Farifield Ford (OH) on 2/4. Order was pulled for production on 2/24. Production date either this week or next. Hopefully, delivery will be the 1st of April.
The GT's and Convertibles are way over sold. Ford planned on building 150,000 of them. Many dealers are saying their allotment of '05s is totally used up and are now taking orders for '06s.
I would imagine by April, these cars (at least the GTs) will be scarcer than they are now. That said, my dealer has two GT coupes sitting on the lot (one silver and one yellow). I would imagine they'll be gone by this weekend.
Deals can be made under MSRP, but it's not an easy task. You have to shop several dealers and pit them against each other. But first, you have to find a dealer that has allotment left for the '05 models.
The allure is easy to see. The Mustang GT offers performance very nearly the same as the '05 GTO (with 100 more HP), it looks great, has a great interior and is built very well. Plus, it's at least $5,000 less than its competition.
That sounds like a recipe for success if I've ever heard one.
Ford did good!
I ordered mine on X plan. It's a redfire metalic GT premium with manual tranny, IUP, ICAP, active anti-theft, bullitt wheels, shaker 500, wheel locks.
The sales agent told me to put away my mask and gun, as he felt like I was robbing him. The sales manager said they had NEVER sold a mustang for what I got. And the business manager kept asking me where I got my numbers. All I can say is, Edmunds is great. Only issue was that the invoice price listed by Edmunds was $200 higher than the price on the dealer's invoice. Everything else, dead smack on.
X plan is $25,485.
Invoice according to Edmunds is $25,475.
So, my price is about $10 above invoice using X plan.
But, I think there was a price increase somewhere that I don't have to pay since X plan price protects me from the date of the order. So, I'm probably under invoice with X plan.
The second dealership, Ron Carter in Alvin, was terrible! We had to go hunt for a salesman. He came out and showed us the inside of the trunk and the lights on the dashboard! OH yeah that's what I want to pay $30,000 for a trunk space and lights.
The guy was very rude and condesending. He said the car starts out at $30K and if the people don't like it at that price we tell them to go down the road and with in an hour the car is sold.
I want to do more research before I actually go and make a deal.
Run away from the dealers who want to charge $30K for a GT. If it's a convertible, that's a different story.
It's pretty common knowledge that the Mustang (particularly the GT and convertibles) are backlogged. Many dealers have used up their entire allotment for '05 Mustangs and are taking orders for '06s.
Best thing to do is to go to a dealer and ask them if they have any more '05 Mustang allotments and order what you want.
If you're so inclined, Ford announced they have upped production of the Mustang by 40%. I suspect that those units will be rolling into dealer stock within a couple of months and you'll be able to buy one off the lot, if you don't mind taking a chance and waiting.
Or, you can order an '06.
He also told me that if I order it this week, I could probably expect it around mid-July. Man that is a long wait!!! I hope it's worth it.
My guess is that your dealer either doesn't have any allotment left for '05 GTs or he's going to give you a low priority number since they will use high priority numbers for cars to put on their lot. There's no other reason for it to take 4 months for you to get an ordered car. Besides, they're goint to start making the '06s in August.
Again, run away from your dealer and go somewhere else.
'06s can not be ordered yet. Some folks are getting letters from Ford appologizing for the delay because of Mustangs being oversold. They are offering some "incentives" (up to $750) to order '06s instead to those that have waited over 3 months for their ordered cars.
The VOC will also show the MSRP and the invoice of the car, in addition to the other "Ford employee prices" (like "Z" prices).
It should be no big deal for the dealer to give you a "#10" priority number as that meansif he's got allotment, the factory will pull the order for production soon after the order is accepted into their system (and the 6-8 week lead time).
If the dealer balks at the #10 priority number, it means that he wants to put his "in stock" orders ahead of yours. To me, that's not right since you are a sure sale, whereas the in stock orders are not (although, as popular as the Mustang is, the dealer will make more on an in-stock unit than he will on your "X plan" order).
Also, if the dealer claims to have allotment for March or April, ask him how many people have ordered ahead of you and have not taken delivery. If there are 10 orders ahead of you and the dealer only has 5 allotments for the month, you aren't going to get your car in a reasonable time period. In other words, the dealer may say they have allotment, but won't tell you that the allotment is already spoken for by other orders.
Good luck!
I would be grateful to hear them.
Many thanks.
Trying to look to order a GT (X-Plan eligible), and all of the dealers here in OKC are out of their allotments. Anyone else seeing this, and anyone aware when the 06 models will drop?
I have a friend who works for Ford and gave me an X plan pin. MSRP was $28,050. Invoice was $25,701 Ford X plan pricing (what I paid) was $25,620.
I ordered it when the weather was still nasty around my 'burg at the beginning of February. I went to my dealer on one particularly nasty evening weatherwise....no one in the showroom except me and the salespeople and management. Took delivery 7 weeks later (right in time for Spring).
Since that time, already "hot" models, the GTs and Convertibles, have been blazing saleswise since the weather has broke for Spring.
Most dealers don't have any covertible or GT stock. Most have already sold out their '05 model allotment, too. My dealer has sold every one they have coming in until Sept (when the '06s should begin to be produced. They are already taking orders for '06s and report that those sales are brisk, too.
What does all of this mean? Well, if you find a GT or convertible in dealer stock you like, try to make a deal on one. Don't expect to pay less than MSRP as some dealers are charging $100s or even $1,000s over MSRP for an '05. On the other hand, V6 coupes are more plentiful and you'd probably be able to get one for under MSRP if you find a dealer with some in stock.
It seems the time to have made a deal on the '05 Mustang was this past winter when the weather was nasty. Those that live in more pleasant climates have had a hard time getting a Mustang and an even harder time making a deal on one.
Now, they are just plain tough to come by.
Regards
Huck
esbrock....you might want to tell your dealer you are willing to go to another dealer if they don't change their tune.
Interior Upgrade Package (IUP) is not an issue. While it's not clear exactly what happened a couple of months ago, there was a lawsuit filed by some lawyer who said Ford stole his idea for "My Color". That has long since been settled, however. Bottom line, IUP will not extend your wait time on an order. Trip computer only comes with IUP.
Again, tell your dealer that you want a priority "#10" when you order and make certain they have allotment for April regarding Mustang GTs. If they have the allotment and they give you a priority number of 10 for your order.....6-8 weeks is the wait time.
I will not regret buying the convertible , but I don't think they capture the retro look as well as the coupes due to the convert top vs. the fastback rear on the coupes.
This convertible feels VERY solid on the road...no cowl shake that I can notice...I really like the car a LOT...but could suggest the following to Ford:
The black intake runners on the motor are rather dull...some bright metal treatment here would have been nice...for a car that with a 33k msrp...a hood prop rod just does not seem right...and why is there only one control for the back windows...and they must be up or down together?
Strong points: The traction control works very well...I accelerated sharply in the rain and did not have a problem (but I'm still wary of the live axle and rear coming around on me)...very quiet inside for a convertible...love those GT lamps...kind of say 'get out of my way'....very nice feel to the seats and dash...thanks for the full size spare tire! I was really surprised that REGULAR fuel is okay...a nice surprise with gas prices going throught the roof.
I guess I was fortunate that I was able to buy one and actually had some choices.
Perhaps to wait a year or so to have more choices and use my "x" plan that no local dealer would now accept would have been the way to go...but a walk through the Ford candy store was just too strong of a temptation...a truly memorable experience that I will not soon forget!
When was the last time you thought of a Ford store as being a "candy store"?
I noticed that Ford is bringing people into the dealerships for the Mustang and the hybrid Escape. I'm sure this will help with 500 sales, too.
I felt lucky to get X plan on mine, but I placed my order during one of the worst snow storms in recent memory this past February...no customers around.
From what I understand, with Spring hitting, MSRP is a "good" price on the convertibles and GTs.
Welcome aboard!
The only thing I am disappointed in is having the spoiler. I would have liked to add a ducktail and the one I was looking at would not cover the factory spoiler holes. So I am not going to mess with filling holes and repainting. Not yet anyway...
Or....you could just wait a year and a half for the Cobra GT500 and get the ducktail. Of course, the rest of that car won't be too shabby, either.
First convertible, First time that will be paying MRSP, First time registering to join forum (read many often), First time didn't have all the answers before starting the car buying process.
Thanks to the graphicguy and others on the purchase info. I have question. I was so pumped when went to the Ford Dealer (Tuesday night) that I ordered right then and there. A GT with everything (except the 1000 watt). Bottomline, tuned into this forum last night (Wednesday) and then checked my VOC and found out it's listed #99. So, I am calling dealer this morning. I'll ask on the allocation. Also, do you think order will have to be cancelled and reinput to get the higher priority?
I'm in the Granite state, called 7 dealers (including Boston area dealer), all said no GT conv available, need order, will be MSRP, delivery Mid June to July. Hoping that not too late. By the sounds, might not see anything till the fall.
Rainy winter? Hopefully, that means we will be getting some mighty fine wines out of that rain in the next year or two.
BTW, I love northern CA. I'm in the Bay Area for work about once/mo. Love it.
gtforme....you definitely want your dealer to change your priority from "99". If it stays there, you'll never get your car. Again, insist on a priority of "10". You definitely want to know your dealer's allocation for April/May. IF they don't have any, go to another dealer who has allocation and will order yours with a priority "10".
Supply is tight for the GTs, in any flavor. Even though Ford had upped production to 150,000 units for MY '05 over 140,000 units for MY '04, demand still outstrips supply.
A few weeks ago, Ford upped production again to 180,000-185,000 units for MY '05. It's not clear yet whether even that elevated number will meet the strong demand for the '05 Mustang.
As a result of this demand, dealers are selling any and all GTs and convertibles they can get their hands on. Lots or crazy stories on other boards about dealers taking customer orders and selling them for more than agreed prices to other people, charging well above MSRP, etc.
Take a walk over to E-Bay and take a look at what some people/dealers are doing....adding different wheels/tires/striping....calling them "special editions" and charging more than MSRP. GT convertibles are being bid "over MSRP", too.
Best thing to do is arm yourself with knowledge and take that knowledge to a dealer you feel you can trust. Then, stay on top of them regarding your order.
I feel for you guys who have to order and hope you get it. I was one of the lucky ones whose dealer had what I wanted and didn't play games. I payed MSRP, but that is the price for being an early adopter. Hang in there and hopefully you can get your car with some summer left to enjoy it.
Loren