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Why not throw that number at the dealer and take it from there?
I'm surprised (and bummed) they let a cash deal go. This car will be two years old in 15 days!
Nothing could be further from the truth because cash denies them the ability to make money by handling the financing.
While it's possible that you might hit a store at precisely the right time to get a fantastic deal (example: they're one unit away from hitting a bonus), your earlier reference to them giving you their holdback and $500 seems to me to be unrealistic.
Yes, I'm beginning to realize that I'm not going to get the car at the price I mentioned. I feel confident that my local dealer is at their bottom because a few other dealers (whom also don't have the car) told me that the price I was given would be the same as what they could do. All told me the only dealership who could do any better would be the one who actually had the car - because only they had access to the holdback and may (or may not) dip into that holdback to sell the car.
Basically, at this point all anyone is willing to do is invoice less rebates. On a 2007 that just does not seem to be enough to me but...I am also beginning to see that what I'm looking for - 2007 GT/manual/conv is pretty rare (as others told me on CS). In fact, a competing dealer told me flat out, "It's the exact car you want at a good price. It's an awesome car, go buy it and enjoy it. If you play around too much you're gonna lose it".
I also get your view on making money back on financing - I though that would be the case.
Now, I will tell you that the days of great resale on the S197 are gone so be prepared for typical depreciation if you buy new. My '06 GT 'vert stickered at $35,030. It only has 1800 miles on it and I'd be lucky to get 22K on a trade now.
But I'm not complaining. It's a fun car with pretty good build quality that I expect to keep for many years.
Here is what I would like:
1. 5 Speed Auto Trans
2. Safety & Security Pkg
3. V6 Pony Pkg
4. Interior Upgrade Pkg
5. Ambient Lighting
What do you all think would be a good deal? Anyone get one recently with similar options?
Also - I see there is a 1500 rebate but if you decide to go with their financing, then is either the financing or the cash rebate ... is that true?
One last thing ... If I am eligible to get the $500 student discount, I should be able to get that and either the cash rebate or the % financing? Any advise?
Run the numbers both ways (financing vs. rebate) to see which works best for you.
College grad money and the like is in addition to other available special offers.
Vehicle Description
MUSTANG 2008 V6 COUPE PREM
4.0L SOHC V6 ENGINE
5-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION
Exterior
ALLOY CLEARCOAT METALLIC
Interior
LIGHT GRAPHITE LEATHER TRIMMED BUCKET SEATS
Standard Equipment INCLUDED AT NO EXTRA CHARGE
EXTERIOR
. 16" BRIGHT MACHINED WHEELS
W/CHROME SPINNER
. P215/65R/R16 TIRES
. STAINLESS STEEL SINGLE EXH
. DUAL POWER MIRRORS
. VARIABLE INTERVAL WIPERS
. REAR WINDOW DEFROSTER
INTERIOR
. AIR CONDITIONING
. SHAKER 500 AUDIO SYSTEM
AM/FM W/ CDX6 & MP3
. AUXILIARY AUDIO INPUT JACK
. CLOTH FRONT BUCKET SEATS
. POWER 6-WAY DRIVERS SEAT
. SPLIT FOLD REAR SEAT
. CENTER CONSOLE W/ARMREST
. SPEED CONTROL/TILT WHEEL
. POWER DOOR LOCKS & WINDOWS
. DUAL VANITY MIRRORS
FUNCTIONAL
. BRAKES, POWER 4-WHEEL DISC
. POWER RACK PINION STEERING
. POWER POINTS (2)
SAFETY/SECURITY
. AIR BAGS, DRIV/FRONT PASS
. SIDE-MOUNTED AIRBAGS
DRIVER & FRONT PASS SEATS
. FRONT/REAR OUTBOARD THREE
POINT SHOULDER/LAP BELTS
. 24 HR ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE
. SECURILOCK
. REMOTE KEYLESS ENTRY
WARRANTY
. 3YR/36000 BUMPER TO BUMPER
. 5YR/60,000 POWERTRAIN
. 5YR/60,000 ROADSIDE ASSIST
Price Information MSRP
STANDARD VEHICLE PRICE $20,480
Key Standard Equipment
ORDER CODE 120A-PREM COUPE
3.31 RATIO REGULAR AXLE
16" BRIGHT MACHINED CAST AL
SHAKER 500 AUDIO SYSTEM
AM/FM STEREO/6-CD IN DASH/M
POWER 6-WAY DRIVER'S SEAT
MANUAL AIR CONDITIONING
Optional Equipment
2008 MODEL YEAR
ALLOY CLEARCOAT METALLIC
LIGHT GRAPHITE LEATHER
.4.0L SOHC V6 ENGINE
5-SPEED AUTO TRANSMISSION 995
INTERIOR UPGRADE PACKAGE 460
SATIN ALUMINUM PANEL
V6 PONY PACKAGE 750
.P235/55/ZR17 A/S TIRE
.WHITE TAPE STRIPE
.FRT FLOOR MATS MUSTANG LOGO
.V6 REAR DECKLID SPOILER
.PONY TAPE STRIPE
.17" PREMIUM PAINTED CAST ALUM
.PONY CENTER CAP
CALIFORNIA EMISSIONS SYSTEM
SAFETY PACKAGE 995
.ACTIVE ANTI-THEFT SYSTEM
.WHEEL LOCKING KIT
.ANTI-LOCK BRAKES
.TRACTION CONTROL
HEATED SEATS 250
LEATHER TRIMMED BUCKET SEATS 695
AMBIENT LIGHTING 295
__________
TOTAL VEHICLE & OPTIONS 24,920
DESTINATION & DELIVERY 745
TOTAL MSRP $25,665
Wanted to get something that had some nice get up and go. Stumbled upon an auction on ebay for a new 07 Roush Stage 3 convertible that had a low buy it now of $43,500. The auction ended with one bid of $39,500.
I called the dealership to see if it was still available and to my surprise it was because the winning bidder flaked out.
These guys completely blew away the stereo type of car salesmen. Although it was a 07 and had 250 miles, it was never titled and considered a new car. They made it impossible not to buy.
I got it for $41,113 plus T,T and L and 0.9% for 60 months. The msrp on the vehicle was $31,805 and the MSRP for the Roush package was $24,600 totaling $57,105. 41K was a little more than I had planned to spend but they gave me an offfer I couldn't refuse.
According to the salesman they took an $8,500 dollar loss on the vehicle. Since it is 2 degrees with the wind chill in Idaho I guess it's not the best convertible market. The car had been in the show room for 13 months. I guess sometimes it's all about timing. Like going in to the showroom at the end of the month or when it's poring down raining and no one is on the lot.
The only negative Is that the car is on the other side of the country and I had to get it shipped.
If there are any other speed freaks out there that don't want to overpay on a shelby, heads up, Brandon Ford in clearwater Florida has a new 07 Roush Drag pack in Black that they are severly discounting. MSRP of 61K but they are letting it go for $39,999. This car runs 11.9 from the factory and has the 3yr 36K warranty and has 6 miles on it. Only negative is that it has cloth interior. Still a serious value with 430 supercharged hp and it even comes with a set of slicks.
I am excited as many of you guys have been when you made your purchase. It should be here next Wednesday.
Thanks
If you need new plates, its 4 years for about 300.
7.50 for tire tax.
then the dealer doc fee what ever thatis.
The car you are looking at though seems to have some junk you may or may not want though. Just a thought. But then again, I wish I had leather on my coupe so you might be on to something.
Mark
The are so many mods for the mustang...more then any other car....you can have a lot of fun. A lot are just bolt on, so you do not need a lot of experience to modify you car.
The few cons I have are, the head rest is not that comfortable, I have tried adjusting but it still not perfect, and since i have a vert there are no "oh crap handles" on the roof or door for my passagers
for 08 only the Navigation system and the type of headlights changed.
Good luck in SF. Not from there.
You sir, should write a letter to Ford thanking them for the GT-500.
So, I think $43k or so is a great deal.....probably priced what these are now worth. Think about it.....how much more would you have paid for a GT-500 Vert? I would say if you stack the two cars side by side, the GT-500 is definately worth $5 - 7k more which again, makes your car priced fairly.
Another way to look at it is is that you car was priced about $15k more then a Stock GT. Add the cost of a vert, a blower, and all the other nice Roush stuff, and $15k more is really about right if you ask me too.
BTW, I really like these cars.....I just think Roush thinks they are worth too much.
Also, I know a guy who paid $41k for a Stage 1 vert (2004) when it was brand new. Compared to that guy, you stole this one.
Almost bought a 07 Shelby 500 with 80 miles for 43,900 but liked the uniquness of the stage 3 vert. Both great cars with pros and cons. Seems as though as time passes you will be able to buy the 500s at sticker or even less with the economy slowing down.
I watch them on ebay from time to time. They aren't giving them away but most of the auctions go with no sale.
Were you talking about OTD price?
Is the $22,548 before or after any rebate?
Did you purchase this vehicle? At this price?
If so, where in CA?
Anyone think I can do any better. Initially they said $34k because there was a premium on it as only 7000 were being made. Now, I think they are hurting to sell them, because of gas prices.
Any thoughts?
Thats a little much, especially when I could probably get a GT Premium, California Special for significantly less. The sales manager said he could do the GT Prem with CS package for $23,168 after all rebates and incentives. With tax, tag, title. etc it would be $25,454. I find myself wondering if the Bullitt is worth $8k more.
I did a build and price on the Ford Web site tonight on a Mustang with Bullitt package and see that the special programs now appear in the pricing summary. (previously they did not show up when I chose the Bullitt package).
I'd be interested to see what others are paying for the Mustang Bullitt, too. It looks like there is still inventory, so they have not sold out at this time.
The deeper I dug into this vehicle , the more I discovered its uniqueness and special components. You just can't build the equivalent car for the $3,100 Bullitt option cost over a GT premium. The list of special , high performance components far exceeds that of the Shelby GT. From that perspective, its a better deal. BTW, I don't consider tape stripes , ground effects, and hood scoops under that heading. One drive in this car will spin your head... it feels far stronger than 315 HP and with 1/4 mile times ranging from 13:30s to 13.70 ,it has to be. I owned and drove muscle cars in the late 60s and early 70s and this car would spank many of them- excluding , of course , the ultra high horsepower examples which were the exception then and not the rule ... Something most people who didn't live back then don't know.
That is for an 08 GT Premium, Bullitt Package, with HID headlights, ambient lighting, alarm, and wheel locks.
MSRP $32,70, Invoice $30,388, Price Offered $30,228
It seems like a great deal, but I am wondering if I hold out, will it get a little sweeter?
I also just saw on ford's website, that the Bullitt is eligible for a $1500 reabte, and $1000 bonus cash. I wonder if that was already factored into my price? I will have to call and see.
http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/mustang/incentives/offers/results/index.asp?mod- el=Mustang&year=2008&zip=30028
Your thoughts please.
Thanks
Willy
Don't understand your reference to "...he said they only have 1600 in it...."
Is Ford providing the financing? Or is it a dealer promo?
Last point: they only offered the CS in 4 colors and if it's not what you want, you'll likely kick yourself later.
This one is white and has never been titled so has full warranty and will be sold as new. The 0.0% for 72 months is also Ford financing.
When he said they would only have 1600 in it, I took that to mean that they would make 1600 if he sold me the car at 32,6 which was what he told me he could sell me the car for originally.
With the difference in financing the used one would have cost $15 more a month, had 5000 more miles on it and already had more than a year off the warranty. Regardless the red one sold at the asking price price of 29,9. Albeit, not to me! The deals available to me are on leftover 07's since they can be financed at 0.0%
However, be prepared to take a pretty big depreciation hit quite soon. Mine's got less than 2000 miles on it now and is worth 23 (maybe 24) of it's original 35K sticker.
Item #170213413278
Dealer is out of Sebring, Fl
MSRP is $39,220 and is currently sitting at $20,100.00
They might take $32,700 based on the previous listing starting bid!
Difference sitting at $6520.00. I’m not sure of the documentation fee that they might :shades: charge??
Check it out, you might be in this vehicle.
thanks
The main edmunds site shows people paying a little over invoice, so I think you could get that pricing plus any incentives/special programs.
I see plenty of Bullitts in inventory still, and read that of the 7,700 to be built for US and Canada that some will be part of the 2009 model year production, so not all will be 2008's.
Lee
Sticker was $37,605
I paid $31,670 and while I do have a couple of issues with the title possibly ( I am told it's never been titled but the dealer says the warranty started May 07 and it appears that the car was registered to the dealer)
I am extremely happy with the car. ZERO percent financing is what won over everything else.
Thanks for replying! :shades:
I know for my zip code Ford was offering either $2500 rebate or zero percent financing for 72 months. I don't think Ford was offering that in WI. But it is irrelavant as the dealer has to use your actual zip code which you already know.
Use that vehicle in good health!
Broncoles
Thanks
The 0.0 % apr offer was on leftover new 07 Mustangs.
This car was supposed to be an owner used demo with 2500 miles on it and I was told it was never titled. Keep in mind I had 700 miles to get home and not knowing the law in Wisconsin I wasn't sure what I was dealing with. But I went to Wisconsin to pick up my new never titled car.
I felt something stunk when I was told the warranty started in March of 07.
I questioned that since this is a new car and they gave me an extra $300 off an ESP warranty to allay my concern.
I decided to run a CarFax on it since the issue has been bothering me and I found a prior registration in the glove box that was registered to the dealer.
I never thought to run a carfax originally as it made no sense since:
A) the dealer told me this was a new demo car never titled and
why would I run a carfax report on a new car being told it was a demo that the owner drove and
C) Ford's 0.0% financing applied only to remainig NEW 07 Mustangs.
The CarFax report indicated that the car is a one owner car and it was previously titled. :mad: That means I paid more than kbb value as carfax says I am the second owner which makes this a used car :mad: .
Ford said in their eyes I am the first owner. I asked then why is my warranty not starting on day 1 of my ownership?
The car was previously titled as I found out, to the dealer who told me today that if some one who doesn't physically work at the dealership drives the car as a demo they have to title it in WI and that FORD is aware of this and that's why they tell me I am the first owner. CARFAX says otherwise andthat is not what they told me prior to me flying out there to pick the car up. They said "It's a new car although a demo and has NEVER BEEN TITLED"
I am very upset at having been misled on the issue and pressed the point with FORD that a new car should have the full factory warranty and while the woman who took my complaint in customer relations agreed with me, she said she couldn't change the warranty date and that I should take it up with the dealer.
The dealer basically told me it is a new car or I wouldn't have been able to get the 0.0 % financing or they would be liable for the difference from 7.0% for the used rate with Ford vs. the 0.0 % that I got.
Right now all I can say is WTF?
Anyone have any suggestions for recourse? I don't think I would make any bones about this at all except I was lied to and I have in fact lost 14 months of my factory warranty. I do know I would not have flown there at my expense if I had know that prior to working the deal out over the phone. I am really, really p'oed about this right now.
Thanks
Willy
Assuming you have already been to the top management with the dealer in question, I would pursue escalating this to Ford customer service/management.
Make sure you have all you facts/communications documented and use written communications.
You may want to see if there is a consumer affairs department in Wisconsin and see if they can do something to assist.
I had a problem with an "Extended Maintenance Agreement" related to a new car purchase in California and was able to get the problem resolved with the assistance of a state consumer department. I got a runaround from the dealer initially since it represented profit that they didn't want to give up but it got escalated to the manufacturer's regional management and they took the appropriate action.
If you have a legal assistance plan at work you may want to run it by an attorney for advice/assistance.
The squeaky wheel gets the grease - persist and you should prevail.
Good luck,
Lee
See if you can get in contact with a local consumer rights organization in your town of Buffalo, NY. Maybe a local news channel can air your situation and thereby bring the local media in. Ford, I’m sure would not like that type of exposure and with sales low at this time ( which probably brought this about) might come to your side.
I hope there was another individual who witness the various verbal conversations you had with this WI dealer.
Speaking about dealers, if there is an employee out there who is reading these posts and works for a Ford Dealership, I would hope that you might speak up and give some guidance to this individual and help bring fairness to this heart breaking situation.
Broncoles