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Chromedome
I'm just wondering what the next topic will be that will have an action/reaction response from our present forum members.....like tossing a pitbull a fresh bone ", I reckon " ! I am wondering if any of our members know if disconnecting the battery will erase the DME? I'm unlikely to have the rev-limiter kick in again.. but I'm not totally cool on Porsche USA knowing that I did have it kick in.
Chromedome
I just purchased a 996 for my wife and asked three different dealers if they would give me that readout in the PPI. One acted he had no idea what I was talking about, one refused to do the PPI once I mentioned possibly getting this overrev readout, and the last said that readout is the private property of porsche and thus will not surrender that information. What a crock!
Glad it came up!
Usually, entering the interstate on a cloverleaf.. holding 2nd gear all the way around, and bumping it just before upshifting to 3rd, as I hit the straightaway..
To be honest, I was glad it had the limiter.. Not that I'm in a habit of over-revving, but those air-cooled engines weren't even straining at redline... There was certainly no aural clue that you needed to shift..
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I'm willing to bet that the limiter kicks in well before any genuine dangerous limits are reached, and that there is little real-life damage to be concerned with by running the engine up to the limit now and then. For goodness sakes, it's a Porsche! Take great care of it, of course. But to baby it... that would be a shame. I didn't buy it to be timid.
If it can't handle running at the limit once in a while, then I've bought the wrong car... but then again, I believe it can handle it just fine, and I've got the car of my dreams!
Let me just add that I'm glad the limiter is there... otherwise I'd blow it up for sure. :shades:
TagMan
But Porsche has scanners that can tell each time you hit the rev limiter and also if you exceed the red zone by downshifting into the wrong gear (which the rev limited cannot prevent). This information is stored and retrievable.
They did know of one 996 that was revved to 9,200 rpm, said the computer, and it bent the valves....but the lower end of the engine was fine. The driver hit 1st instead of 3rd gear---that how 9,200 rpm happened.
TagMan
But hitting it INTENTIONALLY time after time is kinda pointless IMO....
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Thanks again for taking the time to get the info!
TagMan
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I've done a little research after the mild tongue lashing about hitting my rev-limiter....( and keeping my car really clean ) 2006 Porsche Carrera Manual... look under the index on " Shifting ". They mention the rev- limiter as preventing over -revs on the UPSHIFT, they do not mention engine damage, or caution against it. They again mention over-revs on DOWNSHIFT and warn heavily against engine damage. Look under the Porsche USA website and go on the virtual Zuffenhausen factory tour. When you get to engine testing they say that they test every engine at " full throttle ".. mmmmm I wonder what " full throttle " means. I've been told 10,000 rpm for 5 minutes... how does that relate to the 2000 mile break in period ? Anyway, look at all the other forums and they mention time and time again that the rev-limiter protects the engine, is a " Stage 1 " incident and unless it is numerous in occurrance, it is looked at as a protection issue, not a concern about engine damage. A slip of the foot in neutral could causes the rev limiter to kick in ,DUH!! The rev limiter is there to protect us from our amateur mistakes. Another example of opinions and [non-permissible content removed].... everybody knows someone who " knows it all " and is an expert on some Porsche team or is some Porsche consultant..ya rite " etc etc
Chromedome, tossing the bone
That pretty well describes how your last post read, hopefully unitended. I think you are way over obsessing on this issue and this forum needs to move on.
Bone buried, at least by me.
chromedome is quite right, and I'm sure your regular host will agree, let's move on.
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In essence, the car is both of great value and of absolutely NO value since police officers like YOU target these cars and qualified race tracks wont allow them to be driven on thier tracks. Obviously safety is the issue in both instances here... so WHY spend 127K on a car if you cant DRIVE it?
and as for the Jack Daniels, I dont drink.
Likes:
- Color combination is striking in person (black/sand beige leather). Willing to sacrifice time/$ to keep it up
- All leather looks incredible
- Handling (duh)
- Brakes are amazing
- I think i made the right call on the classic wheels, they look even better on the larger rear tires
- Xenon's are very cool
- Great driving environment even with glass top up (and screenshade down)
- Navi is great only because i've never had one before (I am sure others are better per this board)
Dislikes:
- though i knew the glass roof blocks some rear vision when deployed, its still a little annoying. I can see ok during the day but much tougher at night
- not even having an aux jack for my ipod is really, really annoying. Again, i knew this as well but Porsche should have some basics in a $100k car. I have a local guy who can put in an aftermarket kit from Nav-TV that will cost $1k but i am less worried about the cost and more worried about the possibility of the electronics going haywire if they screw up.
Conclusion - best $100k i ever spent (ha)
I currently have a 1989 911. I'm thinking about placing a gold plated porsche emblem (standard hood part) on each front fender walls instead on the sticker. Your opinion would be appreciated.
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Thanks,
Dan
I'm just guessing here but I'd figure maybe $100 a month for routine maintenance and services and the occasional expendables.
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TagMan
My 2005 911S (997 model) technically did not require it's first service until 2 years/20k miles. I had the oil/filter changed (9.5 quarts) and an inspection of other fluids done at a dealership at 1 yr/10k miles for $250. The 2 year/20k is expected to cost $600 +/-. But the 4 year/40k mile major service is expected to cost $2,000 +/-.
It sounds like the car you are considering is due for a major service mileage wise, if one has not already been performed. Hopesfully, they have all maintenance and repair records so you can check. But I would call up one or more dealerships in your area to get their estimate of what would be required and cost.
Aslo, I'll be taking my new car to a dealership during the warranty period - and probably beyond. But I know of others that have found very good independent Porsche mechanics that specialize in the 996/993 and earlier models. You might want to check that out as well.
Naturally there are also a lot of fakers in the Porsche repair business. Just because he has a German accent and works on Mercedes, doesn't mean he knows diddley about a Porsche.
Reputation is the key to choosing an independent, and this is where joining PCA comes in, or asking around. Fortunately, northern California has an abundance of Porsche talent.
where are you BTW?
Has anyone seen a stone (or bug) deflector for 911's. I believe the new GT3 & GT3 R/S comes with a deflector but I can't find one for other or older models.
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Have never seen a trailer hitch on a 911, but a bike rack, yes, and of course engine lid luggage rack (not the same thing as a whale tail!).
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Re: hard to find one. Yes, its definitely a challenge to find any sort of inventory at the dealer. So far in CY07, Targa sales represent only 5% of total 911 sales. To get what you want, you will probably have to order it. It took my guy 3-4 months to swap an allocation (spec'd it out in Dec, finally got a May build and took delivery in June).
Re: rearview at night. One of only 2 complaints (other being no factory ipod hookup). The view in your rearview mirror is blocked on the bottom 1/3. At first it was slightly annoying but now i am used to it. I think its only an issue if a Prius is riding your rear bumper. And if that happens, you clearly arent driving the car correctly
Re: any other thoughts. Only thing that i think most people overlook in the Targa is the view in the cabin when the top is UP. Critics will point to how its not completely open air like a Cab when the roof is down (true). However, when a driver puts the roof back up in the Targa for weather or other reasons, the view from inside the cabin is amazing. I think it gives it an exotic flair that makes the overall driving experience very enjoyable regardless of weather. Recently, I took a 250 mile road trip and I really liked having the ability at 80 mph to put the roof back up to take a break from the sun while still enjoying the view.
Hope this helps.
Ken