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Thanks to everyone for the time you take to post good info; this forum helped me get a good deal on my new TDI in Vancouver, WA / Portland, OR. Dealers in the area were quoting $600 to $800 below invoice. I paid $500 below invoice to buy at a dealer close to my home. The Hannah VW dealer in Vancouver would not give me a price quote, but I was able to research and come up with a solid offer that I could stick to and the whole price negotiation took 15 minutes (no trade, pre-approved at my credit union). I paid taxes and title, but no other fees of any kind. In every other way, Hannah was superb; I just wish that they would give up a no nonsense price to start with.
My new ride is is Blue Graphite with sunroof, protection kit and premium IPOD adapter. I am REEAAALLLY enjoying it! Thanks again all!
I am glad you got a great deal. And hope the TDI is just what you hoped for.
Its so nice to get on the freeway with 4 people with the A/C on full and have no worries! I test drove a few other gas cars and they could not even come close to this performance. Now it is not sport car performance I’m talking about, but everyday driving.
I paid $25,000 for an '09 TDI with DSG, 17" wheels, sunroof, that worthless Ipod adaptor and rubber mats. The NAV package is a $1990 option. Sounds like a good price to me.
Don't bank on anything for the TDIs.
Generally, when VW does this, they are trying to move their less desireable models.
The TDIs are a hot item, especially the TDI Sportwagen and if you'll
recall, those low interest loans offered earlier excluded the TDIs.
Even the big East Coast, 'Benchmark' online dealer Fitzmall is getting harder to deal with these days, an identical TDI model I was tracking has had a price increase of almost $3,000 over a month ago. (there goes your "Cash for Clunkers" advantage.
Thing is, the 2010's are due to hit the lots this fall with several improvements over the current Jetta.
( Like, steering wheel controls for the Sportwagon and standard Bluetooth in all, even my $10,000 cheaper, Nissan Versa has that )
GearHead Gossip has tracked some info that the Jetta TDI is going to get a full, frame up overhaul for 2011.
If you can wait, I'd wait.
If you can wait, I'd wait.
Be prepared for the possibility of a 2011 "VW Camcord" Jetta as VW has said they will "Americanize" the Jetta. Expect VW style and technology in a larger vehicle with number and dumber handling. VW is at the start of a drive to triple their sales in the US.
If I had to wait until 2011 to buy a diesel VW, a Golf or Polo would likely be my choice.
If the past is any indicator of the future, best deals on 2010 Jetta will be available from February thru April of 2010 for the 2010 model year.
I tired even costco program and the dealer was not able to beat this price so I sent costco surevey and got call from them as well.
This is the best I got I even tried going 100 miles away from my place.
Sounds like a good plan to me. Right now the VW Jetta is sized along with the Toyota Corolla and Hyundai Elantra, etc.
Without getting into the 'Diesel Thing', I imagine that many new car shoppers just don't get the premium prices and skimpy VW warranties on a car in that size range.
Lots of VW owners have complained about the cramped space in the back seat of the Jetta, while the competition has made their cars with less trunk space and better 'people' space.
The Jetta has been slowly growing bigger over the years, but so has the rest of the compacts in that catagory. Breaking up into the Camry/Accord size and replacing the Jetta size with the 'Polo' makes good sense.
It's not even that big of a jump, and if nothing else it might get Honda back to the drawing board on their own version of their well recieved EURO Accord TDI, for the N. American market.
From a car buyers point of view, I say, bring it on, the more TDI's to chose from the better.
I am so mad, I hope they all go out of business! The whole idea of supply and demand makes me want to buy a bicycle (if work were not so far).
When I called the Annapolis VW dealer, they were only quoting me prices 2K over MSRP. They said these were popular models and would not go any lower, so I purchased at another dealer.
thoughts-- :mad:
Kris
can you give me the name and location of the Chicago dealership and sales man. Here in MI the dealerships are Omnipotent and are not willing to sell any of their stock at below MSRP, not even for the options. I can't condone to such behavior and will not buy from such dealers. It's insane how they claim the car is SO HOT that they will just sit on it, even the new 2010 -they will take your holding payment without giving you a price for the car. WOW! Guess they must be making tons of cash....
thanks
Shai
You might want to do a google for some of the differences and similarities. I personally have avoided using bio diesel for 128,000 miles sans one tank of B5 that I took from Chevron on the road. While VW engines have been shown to run on WVO to B100 (modifications of course). The fact of the matter is they are designed and specified to run on D2 and with 51 cetane ratings.
I personally think diesel engines should be designed to specifically run on BIODIESEL, B5 to B100 and from first generation to latest generation. I am however aware that I might hold a VERY minority opinion.
A guy named Jason Burroughs bought a 2009 Jetta TDI with the express purpose of using only b100 from the beginning and showing viability for B100 on the 09 Jetta TDI. Sadly, the CEL(check engine light) came on and other issues came up, mainly showing the issue related to the emissions/DPF.
Jason detailed out his experiences on a forum; just google his name and Jetta TDI 2009 biodiesel and you're sure to hit it..
The Jetta does run on b100, and that's not the real issue; the extra dilution of engine oil by the extra biodiesel seeping into the crankcase and the extra damage that may happen to the engine, a topic highly techinical and debatable/still being debated, is another issue. Some have suggested just changing oil more often than the mfg recommeneded 10k miles, but the CEL light coming on and having the dealer reset it, is the problem issue, again, set off by the DPF.
And, anything beyond B5 then VW seeks to deny responsibility and rescind warranty, which is another highly debated issue....
That's all I'll say so as not to hijack this thread...only to give a brief synopsis and asnwer to sohna99 and ruking.. :-)
I'm preparing to return my leased 2006 VW Passat in the coming weeks and would like to negotiate on a VW Jetta TDI.
I've priced one out on the site for $27,339 including the following options:
Automatic Transmission
Chrome Mirror Caps and Rear Accent Strip
Power Sunroof and Air Deflector
DVD Navigation
Rear Side Airbags
Mat Kit
Trunk Liner
I am planning to start negotiations @ 24,605 (90% of list). Thoughts and experiences? What should I expect to pay?
Thanks for any feedback.
perhaps ask yourself why a dealership would want that deal.
If I can score half of that, I'd be satisfied. I would say that its realistic given the current economic climate to expect a below invoice purchase. Wouldn't you?
Was hoping to learn of additional dealer holdbacks that could get me to the negotiating table around or even below invoice.
Here in Atlanta there's over 150 Jettas in stock at the Top 3 VW Dealers and I'd be willing to hike out to an additional 2 if they were pricing competitively.
there is no earthly reason why a dealer would take below invoice on a tdi.
I got what I needed regardless, but the experience sucked. Kind of like buying a car!
Thanks.