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Also watch the dealer installed options and the doc fee. (I have seen doc fees of $100 - 398). That is where some dealer make a lot of profit. In addition, look at a dealer (in certain states) that is located outside the city limits. You may safe 2% in taxes.
RL
MSRP: $50,660
Customer Discount $4,259
Selling Price: $46,400
Tax $2,874
Tag/Reg $350
Dealer Fee: $599
Balance due: $50,233
Terms
MF: .00119
Residual: 49%
Residual $: $24,823
Cap: $46,818
Payment: $745 (w/tax) with $0 down for 36 mo/12K miles
This was the first offer I received. I have not presented a counter. According to Costco Auto, the invoice is $45,940.98 so this offer is around $1,000 over invoice. I don't know what kind of hold back Acura is paying but with the dealer fees the profit is at least $1,600. Shouldn't these cars be going for well under invoice considering how lousy they are selling?
Thanks for any thoughts and Happy Holidays!
Residuals are screaming one thing, "we do not want to lease you a car at this particular point in time!"
Just as well, since I would have kept my 05 for 3 more years if I could have.
Beyond all that, the 2009 is a far superior product - just drive it and you'll know what I'm talking about.
I live in Bay Area of Ca, and I sent emails to all the dealers in the Bay Area. Got four or five responses and all offerred about $ 42500, to about 44000. Cost out to door was just under $ 46000 but this included taxes.
So if my situation helps you I hope you get an excellent deal because jmo, I have an excellent vehicle.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
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It's a terrific car, but several things brought it down:
•People with nearly $50k to spend wanted a bigger car, a bigger name, rear wheel drive, and a V8. The RL has none of these. It was designed in Japan for Japanese executive buyers' wants, and didn't fit American tastes as well as the Lexus and Infiniti flagships.
•The Acura TL was cheaper by $15,000, and so good that nobody -- not even Acura salesmen -- could really make the case for paying more. In fact, the RL was better built from better materials, rode better and had the world's most sophisticated AWD system. But that's all subtle stuff and didn't impress the neighbors.
•Acura overreacted for 2009 and slaughtered the styling of the car, most notably with its buck-tooth grille that everybody hates. That grille probably looks even worse on the RL than on any other Acura, partly because it's grafted onto a car that wasn't made for it.
•Now there's a new TL, and it steals whatever thunder the RL had left with an option package that borrows the RL's trick AWD system. With the RL itself demoted to an ugly nose outside and fake wood inside (except on the very top trim level), there's now officially pretty much no reason left to buy one.
Buying a USED RL, however, is a screaming deal. They're not ugly like the new one, and the car is so underappreciated that the price has dropped like a stone. That's where the real sales action is today in RL's.
I sent out emails to dealers in my area, i.e. Bay Area CA. and had numerous emails trying to get me to "come on down"! So I got the one closest to my domicile.
Wrote a check and drove away. So far, NO mechanical problems and I love the long trips with my wife and intend to drive from Ca to Ill this fall to see our family.
Discounting is NOT a given, as the buyer should do his/her homework.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad
jensad
Seems not much activity in this thread.
Anyone recently bought an RL.
I am planning to get 2011 ACURA RL in dallas
Heard it is changing body style in 2012, but seems the best AWD in this class.
Appreciate feedback.
Capri
This my way of negociating with dealers. It may not fit you or other readers. I hope it helps you.
I buy a new car about every 8-10 years. However the 08 RL I bought was purchased in late Feb of 08. That is because sometimes dealers get a little jumpy at the end of the month due to quota considerations.
First i sent emails to all the dealers within the bay area and down the central valley asking for their best price.
Next waited for replies. I got back about 11.
Then I paid about $ 18 fee and got the price of an rl in Consumer's Reports automoble section of their monthly magazine.
Then I asked my BMW buddy what the percentage was for selling a vehicle. He said about 15-20 %.
Then I got the trade-in price for my current car from Kelly's Blue book.
And finally my wife and i went down to the local CA dealer and gave them an offer which they said was to little. My wife mentioned that it was time to leave, we got up and as we began to leave, they gave us what we wanted.
I didnot try to get them down to rock bottom as they should make some money. Its not the amount they wanted but they got one more car sold to meet their goal and we got a new rl for 18 % off their STICKER price. I.e.$42500 and not $52000.
Good luck to all and stay safe. I don't sell cars, and I dont work in the industry but I do have a good idea how to play the game. (And I hate it too)
jensad
I am waiting till March to make a deal. As there might be some Incentive on the 2011 as 2012 expecting new styling. On the 2011 they only have 2500 dealer incentive. Also seeing some 2010 RL's on the lot.
Will keep you posted. :shades:
PS - If anywhere within 500 miles of Chapman Honda/Acura in Tucson, AZ talk with Matt Dixon - INternet Sales Manager and tell him Larry Gorman sent you. He'll get you a great deal!