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I've commented before, but while the back-up camera is nice, the back-up sensors I had installed are perfectly adequate for me. Also, in theory, the laser cruise control sounds nice. However, a friend has one and has quit using it since whenever another car changes lanes with inadequate clearance, it feels like the brakes are being stomped. As a result, he only uses it in light traffic situations where it really isn't necessary anyway.
Can you tell me how the dealer installed backup sensor system gives you information? Is it audible? Is it integrated into the Nav display? I just test drove a new LS430 with the B/U camera and was completely underwhelmed by the camera's abilities. I think the Lexus Parktronic sensor system alone would have been enough. That said, I hope it to be true for the RL as well.
Yes, it's audible. As you back towards an object, you hear a series of beeps that grow more rapid as you get closer. When you're about one foot from the object, the beeps become one long sound. If you keep going, you get another series of beeps that are louder than the first set. In the second series of beeps, you get one long sound when you're about 1" from the object - makes parallel parking a snap. It works quite well, actually, though I wish the beeps were a little louder. It also beeps if an object is sligthly to the side and the rear. This is nice in parking garages where there are columns and other objects.
I'm not sure how much I paid, but it was somewhere around $500. I'm sure it's negotiable, especially now that RLs are apparently not moving as fast as dealers would like. No, you can't shut it off, it's always on.
I was talking to a coworker this morning and remembered he'd had both - backup sensors on his last BMW and backup camera on his FX. I asked him which he preferred. He said no contest - backup sensors. He said there are several problems with a backup camera:
1. You have to focus your attention on the screen instead of looking all around
2. If you're parallel parking with a small, low car behind you, it's hard to tell when you get too close
3. When it's raining, if your camera lens gets spattered, everything gets distorted
As a result, he said the only time he really depends on it is in our awful parking garage at work with all its pillars and other obstructions.
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Mike
Contgrats on the purchase of a great car at a fantastic price! You'll love the car.
Yes, it is. I went from a 99RL to the 05. The only thing I don't like is that you can't see either the front end or the back end which makes parallel parking a challenge. I had the backup sensors installed which really helps.
1400 down, also take care of last saab payment of 450
36month /12miles/yr
615 +tax/month
$ 599.
My company budget is $ 550 / month inclusive. Does anyone think that the 2006's coming on board will get the lease down to the $ 550 / month inclusive? Maybe on a used 2005? Or am I smoking Crack?
"Just saw an ad from a local Acura dealer. (D.C. Area) '05 RL's...$41,900!! "
http://www.pohankaacura.com/en_US/
Leasing in Illinois is not advantageous from a sales tax standpoint... I'd concentrate on getting a low selling price (below invoice?), and finance the purchase...
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I was working with Pohanka last week - they gave me an offer at invoice. Can you tell me where you saw the ad., Washington Post, local paper, TV, etc?
That is about as low as I ever see the RL going..... not even sure it will get down that low....
If the budget is $550, you should probably be looking at cars with an MSRP of $35K-$45K at most..
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kyfdx
PS.. I'm assuming 3yr/45K...
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1400 down and they pay my last payment on my old car.(450)
615month+tax for 36month , 12/yr
i think this is good how do you figure what they are seeling it for then
If I use your assumptions, but a selling price of $44,300, which is invoice (and realistic, I think)... I get a price of $557/mo + tax.. But, of course, if you roll in the acquistion fee, and just pay 1st payment and security deposit upfront, then the payment becomes $578/mo + tax or $613/mo. including tax..
$613/mo. including tax..... I think that is realistically the best deal you could get... for 3yr/36K..
Assuming our assumptions are correct.... That might be a tough deal to get, though...
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But here's a curious question, if (and this is just a hypothetical) AHFC was offering 2.9% interest on a purchase, why do they insist on a 5.76%(.0024 MF) on a lease. Is there a financial reason other than taking advantage of the leasing customer because they have fewer leasing options?
For some reason, I think that RL drivers tend to be buyers, rather than leasers... Just my unscientific opinion.... And, APRs are a lot easier for the consumer to grasp than a low money factor... Most people don't have an extensive knowledge of how leasing works.. They only know the payment..
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Maybe it's because many of us buy our Acuras to keep for long periods, instead of trading them off every three years, or so. I personally know six Acura owners, including myself. Only one of us tends to keep our cars less than five years. My history is 8 1/2 years, 5 1/2 years, and my new RL, which I intend to keep for a long time. I personally don't think leasing makes any sense unless you trade often.
I bought my new Opulent Blue Pearl RL last night from Tustin Acura in SoCal for $43,000, + $601 for the wood steering wheel and +151 for wheel locks & trunk tray. I was able to get a VIN number > 20000 with only 4 miles on it, it had just arrived this week!
BTW, I had three dealers at this price (Tustin Acura, Cerritos Acura, and Power Acura of South Bay). Gosh, it's good to live in an area with so many competing dealers!
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It had a problem with the door locks which they fixed in one visit. The problem was a loose cable connection to the right front door lock. The Door wouldn't open from the inside and the doors would sometimes auto-unlock when you stop at a light. There is also still a soft rattle from inside the right side of the dash. They worked on it but it's still there. I'll have them check it the next time I'm in.
All in all the car has been great. Here's some good news: At a steady 63-65 mph, with the air on, the trip computer will show 32 mpg! Of course you need the cruise control on to hold it there. :shades:
2005 RL AHFC STANDARD FEATURED LEASE Terms
Lease rates available on all new 2005 RL models. FEATURED LEASE*: Available in all states except Alaska and Hawaii on 2005 RL with Automatic Transmission (Model KB1655KW) for $599.00 per month for 48 months with a $2,500.00 capitalized cost reduction. $3,694.00 total due at lease signing (includes first month’s payment, capitalized cost reduction and AHFC upfront acquisition fee. Security deposit waived); total net capitalized cost and base monthly payment does not include tax, license, registration, options and the like). Not all buyers may qualify. SUBJECT TO LIMITED AVAILABILITY. Offer valid from 06/11/2005 through 07/05/2005. *The specific featured lease listed is not available to New York residents. New York residents should contact their dealer for New York featured lease. Terms and conditions vary for New York Residents. In addition, AHFC limits leasing terms to 39 months or less to residents and dealers in the state of Rhode Island.
Is this a good deal? Please let me know. I've never leased a car before and the last car I bought was in 1992.
2005 RL, $40,888. "Pre-owned with less than 80 miles"
Is this some kind of customer satisfaction return? Two listed, one with 33 miles, one with 41. Still my last new car had this many miles at delivery (but had never been titled). For $9K off MSRP (and $3K off best prices here), might be interesting. Thoughts?
2) This is the standard advertised deal... you should be able to negotiate a better deal than this..
3) You shouldn't put that much money upfront on a lease.. You should aim to get out the door for under $1500. Of course, that will make your payment higher..
4) That deal doesn't include sales tax, licensing, etc.. all those charges will add to the cost.
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