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Sorry for the confusion.
DaveM
Good news about the 2nd row seats sliding. I still hope they fold flat. I don't like the ones that tumble.
$37k could kill it, I agree there, but I doubt that'll be the price. If it is, I hope they come out with a Sport model later, for less.
-juice
Sorry, no pics, but here is some hard info:
• 108" wheelbase.
• Curb weight between 4250 and 4350, IIRC, depending on trim packages.
• Same H6 specs as found on Outback.
• 2000 towing standard, but optional tow package raises that to 3500. Still not good if the BMW X5 was used as the benchmark (all X5s are rated at 5000).
• 255/55x18 tires standard (same as X5).
•18x8 rims standard.
• 189" length (I think, but am not sure)
Trim levels:
5 passenger base (bottom)
7 passenger base
7 passenger premium
7 passenger Nav
7 passenger DVD
7 passenger Nav/DVD (top)
There may be an additional 7-passenger model, but I don't remember
Bob
Wheelbase is about average for the class, right? Still, aren't some around 112"? They went kinda small.
-juice
Curb weight is actually lighter than I expected. Wheelbase is very close to the Pilot/MDX. Also width is almost 74".
Oh! I forgot this: 20/29 gas mileage!
Bob
5 passenger base (bottom)
7 passenger base
7 passenger base DVD
7 passenger premium
7 passenger Nav
7 passenger DVD
7 passenger Nav/DVD (top)
I think this may be more correct. I seem to recall 6 levels for the 7-passenger model.
Bob
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Jim
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Bob
Subaru has been targeting the European carmakers, such as BMW and Volvo. Both the X5 and XC90 are rated at 5000 pounds for towing. Regardless of how the tow ratings are achieved, what is "advertised" is what counts, and here the B9 Tribeca falls short.
I find it unbelievable that the "standard" tow rating on the B9 (2000) is less than any Outback (2700 H4/3000 H6) or Forester (2400). I think this will be a huge marketing mistake if this proves to be true. Yes, the Tribeca can tow a maximum of 3500, but only with the optional tow package. I was hoping for a standard 3500 tow rating, with 5000 being available as an option.
As I and others have said many times, the Tribeca is the last to the party, and it had better be best dressed. To me this is Subaru's equivalent to a "wardrobe malfunction."
Bob
If you take the official Subaru rendering of the B9 as pretty much correct, why does it have an air intake back by the tail lights? To cool batteries or electric motors? Random observations.
I agree with all your observations above, Bob. It's nothing more than a tall Outback from what I've seen so far.
Jim
Jim
Bob
Also, this car will be a dog with the H6, and that towing capacity is ridiculous. Those mileage figures are hard to believe: I can't even do that in my OBXT.
They are going to get killed in the marketplace. Given that Subaru must be investing huge amounts of money into this car, this doesn't bode well for them.
As to towing, I started to get a bad feeling about this a few months back when that spy photo showed a small Class II hitch receiver. After seeing that I was hoping for an Explorer-like situation, whereas the base model comes standard with a Class II receiver, but a larger Class III receiver is available as part of the optional tow package; but that doesn't seem to be the case here.
Bob
DaveM
that's quite a shnozola. I dunno about that.
http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2005/0103/subarub9rear.jpg
http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2005/0103/subarub9side.jpg
I hate the new front end.
Brian
I love the new front end.
So the legacy of thought-provoking styling lives on at Subaru...
Bob
Bob
Plenty of X3/X5/RX/Murano in the profile - but then again how many shapes can there be?
The wings on the nose are very reminiscent of the old Saab logo - they push the aircraft heritage as well.
It's not ugly - it'll grow on folks I think.
I have no doubt about that.
Bob
John
It seems that lots of minivans are doing upper 20's these days. 29 is really good for a car of this weight, size, and AWD, but not out of the ballpark.
Look at how Subaru has crept up the mpg on the Forester, from mid 20's to upper 20's, and now at 30 mpg.
I would think that the H6 Outback will come in with about 30 mpg on the next revision, using the same technology in the B9.
John
I think Subaru is rolling the dice big time and taking a dive into the unknown. Unfortunately, the competition has gotten really good and I am not sure the B9 is bringing to the market what it takes to really play in the premium class. I know the B9 will be good, but its going to have to be great to make inroads against Honda / Acura and Toyota / Lexus. I know I sound negative and I hope I am proved wrong, because I was really growing to like Subaru as a brand.
All i can say is...the marketing director of the B9 Tribeca was here yesterday...that said...I can tell you...this pic is showing a disguised front end...the fact that it has "B9X" on the back instead of "B9 Tribeca" should have been a dead give away that these pic sare both not current and not production.
Even if this is true, I wouldn't expect much change. perhaps a different grille insert?
Bob
The front end troubles me a lot. I can't believe that is the best they came up with. I do like the idea and theme of the airplane fuselage/wings, and many of the concept sketches pull it off quite well. The implementation on the Tribeca is just not good. The wings look OK, but the fuselage portion is too prominent and sticks out too much. It totally dominates the look of the car, unfortunately.
I smell Aztek all over again...
Craig
Craig
That sketch looks very near to identical to the recent spy pics. I don't find the drawing version that bad. Perhaps it's just the light color (sand metallic?) in the spy pic?
Maybe someone can photochop a darker color like metallic blue or grey or black
-Brian
They even generate the code needed to include a clickable thumbnail in your post.
-Brian
(I feel like a one issue car buyer here!)
god i wish i could forget this face, i had nightmares about it.
Thanks to http://www.imageshack.us for Free Image Hosting and thanks to Brian for recommending them.
Please note my monitor is calibrated for CMYK printing, so the colors you see are probably a little off from what I intended. I've also assumed the grill inserts are chrome, not body color, but it was hard to tell from the original Autoweek photo.
http://members.shaw.ca/anon123/tribecachop.jpg
Bob