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To be honest I think 85 is plenty for US roads, there's no autobahn here.
-juice
Exactly. If the B9 is stable at 120 MPH, she's like a rock at normal speeds.
Robert B
NY
Every little bit helps
-Karen in AZ-
-Karen-
In Arizona, it's pretty muggy and miserable from July until mid-September or so. My parents Park Avenue has the solid leather seats, and I have seriously lost a few layers of skin off the backs of my legs in their car more than once. Also, the AC vents on the Tribeca can point close to the thigh areas and help some.
I have seen the blue with the beige, and it is very attractive, as well, but very light in color, in my opinion. However, I decided I was tired of beige because it's harder to keep clean, and also since my last two vehicles had beige upholstery, and my new house has beige everything, too.
For comparison, I went to two different dealers...one had the grey leather in a silver (I think?), and I sat in it for a while in the heat just to see. Then I tried a black one with beige interior, and decided I thought it might be cooler, and I just liked it better with the blue...my 2-cents' worth only.
-Karen in AZ-
-Karen-
I mentioned a while back that I would like to have blue or white lights for the ambient floor lighting inside the vehicle. The amber just doesn't put out much light, and I think the blue or white (low wattage?) would be more helpful without being distracting.
Also, my dad thinks he read somewhere that flashing blue is reserved for police in most states (he is a retired law enforcement officer). I would check with your local police agency first before doing something that drastic (anything seen from the exterior, that is).
-Karen-
Also, I had a champagne gold 05 OB (same exact color). It's a chameleon, turning silvery in overcast daylight, greenish under mercury or flourescent lighting at night, but is definitely a gorgeous light gold in bright sunlight. If you're on a budget, think "light beer" instead of "champagne" :-)
-Karen in AZ-
And what do you mean it doesnt blow away the Murano? in what aspect? because it did beat it pretty convincingly in handling tests.
Also, check out the reviews links I have posted for some of the professional opinions not already found here. For the most part, you're gonna find that those of us here really, REALLY like this vehicle, but don't just take our word for it...do your homework first!
Best wishes...Karen
We went with the blue/tan combo. Today it hit 92 in NY and I was driving with AC off for a change, enjoying a blast of hot air and loud Pink Ployd.
But....
I was sweating....
And wearing shorts.....
I'm typing his message from my wireless because I'm unable to get out of the car.
Robert B
NY
I don't think any one car has a truly big advantage. It's become pretty subtle. Subaru will need a B9 STI for a bigger leap. That's not to say I don't prefer the B9. I bought one because the others bored me to tears.
No will someone come over here and spray some Pam on my non-preforated tan seats so I can get some dinner?!
Robert B
NY
Let's not put Karen on the color naming panel.
-juice
so a B9XT would be a great addition it sounds like. I am guessing the 18in wheels help in the stability. but the mpg probably dropped pretty quick at 100+ mph.
True, but we're not allowed to discuss the B9's abilities in real world driving here. Violation of Edmund's charter. Naturally there are situations where exceeding the speed limit can save your life. I know it's saved mine. Just recently a 18 wheel truck started to slide into my lane and didn't see me. I was doing around 70 and was well boxed in. If I'd obeyed the law I'd be dead. If a car is capable of higher speeds and handling at thoise speeds I see it as a major safety factor. The faster, better handling car in skilled hands is the safer car because of what it can avoid.
I don't want to test a crash rating, which is the very last line of defense.
Robert B
NY
In my case, we already have 2 silver cars both with black interior. The suv will be our third car. We do have to consider the fact that the perforated seats will probably absorb spilled liquids by kids.
I test drove a silver/grey tribeca 5 seater, and I did like the interior. But most likely we will go with the beige as a change and for child-proofness.
thx for the feedback....
Definitely getting a limited version, and leaning towards 7 seater right now.
as far as the nav and dvd go, can you guys post what the main difference would be if I just get after market units? which is the way I am leaning right now to save $.
I have nav on my Infiniti G35, so I'd appreciate any comparison between the stock nav and Inifinit's system.
My dad always said he had champagne taste on a beer budget :-)
-Karen
You'll get more for your money with an aftermarket DVD system for certain. The stock unit is worth about 700 dollars. If you need the nav, get it because it's integrated and well done.
Here's an example of what you can do with aftermarket DVD in the Tribeca...
http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/mvideo.jpg
Robert B
5 Pass. Limited
NY
Oh, I still don't know which issue of R&T you guys are referring to that had a comparison test with a Tribeca, Murano, X5 etc. I subscribe to R&T and I don't see it. :confuse:
Nothing really new here. They say pretty much what everyone has been saying all along.
Bob
With the B9, I put it within 6 inches of the curve easy in one try
they said no fuel range is seen on the trip screen. it is available but it is shown on the fuel pump screen ...
also they say they dont see the radio when changing stations, I see mine on the screen. not sure what page they were on. but one thing would be nice is they had the type of radio that reads the id info broadcast. *(ie. the mopar systems show the song playing and the radio station name if it broadcast - which most of the stations do in Pittsburgh).
Bob
2.anyone with a portable GPS have problems with signal reception in the Tribeca?? I don;t want to have to use an external antenna like I do in some of my other cars if I decide not to get the NAV and use my magellan in it.
3. the tire pressure monitor system, does that mean if you mount a new tire it needs adjusting and does that mean only the dealer can do it?? I tend to use winter tires on all my cars (and for all those who say why on an AWD, let me just say that when I had two AWD 92 legacies and one had regular all seasons and the other winter tires, you could definitely tell the difference and I have had winter tires for all my subarus since) , can you use wheels without the monitor or will they mess something up besides setting off some dash light?
have called IMBA for my VIP letter and will get an atlantic blue with the grey seats, only issues remaining are NAV (and Ltd - I hate leather - memories of my dads car in hawaii are forever burned into the bottoms of my thighs and just visiting him in FL recently, leather still gets too hot in the sun for my delicate skin!!!)
The road to the dealership is a nice curvy back road and I had a nice time cruising back on it. I like the smooth power of the 6 cylinder, even if it does seem to rev higher than what you'd expect from an "SUV" powerplant.
I love the size of the Tribeca more than anything. It's big enough to squeeze in a useful third row (useful for kids mostly, but still useful as I happen to have two kids), but small enough to be manageable to drive on a daily basis. I parked in our two car garage last night and was somewhat suprised how easily it fit. There was even room to open all the doors without worrying about door dings on my car.
My biggest job last night was strapping in the two car seats so my wife could tote around the kids today. The only problem was that after I strapped them in to the two outboard positions in the second row, there's no real way to get to the third row. My wife is driving my parents around with the kids today and it would have been nice to have access to the third row.
You can slide the 40% section forward without tilting the backrest, but that only gives you about 8" of room to try and squeeze into the third row. My 6 year old could do it, I guess, but her carseat is already in the second row. I suppose if you were planning on using the third row more often and you have two car seats, it may be a good idea to put one carseat in the third row to free up the tilt/slide mechanism on the second row seat. Any thoughts on this? (other than...if we want to use the third row a lot, that we should buy a minivan)
Oh, is the seatbelt for the middle position in the second row really in the ceiling? That thing seems to be a pain to use!
My wife was impressed with the interior of the Tribeca Limited and thought it was luxurious. However, she felt the leather with her hand and said, "is this real leather? it feels like the leatherette in your 3 Series". Well, IMO that's more of a comment on the quality of the leatherette in BMWs than a strike against Subaru, but whatever...
She looked at the headlight detail when walking around the car and thought all the chrome / bright accents were "a bit much". For some reason, she hasn't even mentioned the grille yet, and we both generally agree the Tribeca is a good looking car.
She kept comparing the silver interior trim with our stainless steel appliances. I take that to be a good sign. She likes her stainless steel appliances.
We really wish it came with memory seats and mirrors. She is 5'1" and I'm 6'0" and it's a pain to have to adjust everything manually every time we switch cars (which is almost every other day).
From my impressions so far, there's no way I'm going to me more impressed with the Acura MDX I plan to test drive on Saturday. I think it will feel like a bigger SUV than we need and the styling is nowhere near as interesting at this point. Even though we were planning on waiting until early 2006 to buy, I'm feeling like I want to start negotiating with Subaru dealers now!
The Tribeca we have for our 24 hour test drive does not have nav, and it shows the outside temp on the central display. It also has an autodimming mirror that has a compass in it.
You get the temp gauge. I believe the rearview mirror compass is an option on all Tribecas.
Bob
Backing up - make you make use of those big side mirrors. Also consider one of those stick-on fish-eye lens things that help you see behind the car. Our shuttle here at work has one and you can see directly behind it, it's pretty neat. CR even tested one and found it was effective.
I think a backup camera or sonar sensor should be the first thing they add for MY2007.
Having said that I still managed to parallel park it a couple of times, no problem. I'm tall though, and I used to valet park for a couple of years in college so I got pretty good at parking big cars in tight spots.
-juice
short legroom of the second row was disappointing. It seems the second row was shoved a few inches forward to make room for the basically useless third row
They missed the release latch as well, just like Motorweek.
The seat goes all the way back, another 4", if you hit the release. The 2nd row basically comes in contact with the 3rd row. 2nd row legroom is plentiful!
Ugh.
-juice
Is that right? I don't recall specifically but there are several screens for fuel matters and I'm sure this is on one of them. Can someone check that?
map screen never displays a clock or the radio station you're listening to
False. I proved that earlier and even provided a photo.
Here is their back seat pic - this seat is *NOT* all the way back.
Navigation system works well, but the system talks to you with a male British accent. Most systems have a more soothing female voice.
Wrong again. How could they miss Becky? She's awesome!
Disappointing inaccuracies, they're usually a lot better than this.
-juice
She also said she likes it and doesn't want to give it back. Sounds like a good start.
Nothing really new here. They say pretty much what everyone has been saying all along.
I think we owe it to Subaru and to Edmunds to write/email the author(s) of this review with our corrections. It's not that I don't agree with most of what was said, but they certainly missed a couple of important facts (the sliding seat is NOT that hard to figure out, people! Plainly visible bright orange handle? Now THAT'S ugly!).
There were a couple of typos, too, which is pretty inexcusable, IMO. (Can you tell I'm a teacher?)
-Karen in AZ-
Hmmm......maybe Subaru could strike a deal with Dunkin Donuts....free food for buyers for the length of the warranty? And maybe then Starbucks? Target? Discount Tire? Oh, the possibilities!
Good luck, Phil! Sounds like a winner!
-Karen-
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Well, they made mention to the very good possiblility when I we went to the initial training session for the Tribeca's, but now that the Tribeca is selling well, they've decided to add the Navigation to the 5-Passengers as well, however not the DVD or 3rd Row, A/C.... Anyways, the boss and a couple people from SOA were having a conversation here a few weeks ago (I guess to discuss the new dealership) and I happened to be demo-ing a Tribeca in front of them to a customer who had asked about whether or not they could get the navigation in a 5-Passenger and I, at the time said no. Needless to say, one of the guys from the office turned to us and said that it would be available in the 5-Passenger in a few months if she absolutely wanted a 5-Passenger Tribeca..... So that's my experience.....
Now, my sales rep also says the same thing, but we all know that's hearsay sometimes, but I don't see them lying or making up a story, especially in front of a customer, like that....
Bob
Buy yourselves the magellan 760 (I think) for $1200 (approx.) and have the ability to transfer it from auto to auto. The new magellan even has a feature that detects traffic jams and re-routes you around it.
NAV: OE systems will mute the stereo during commands, there are advantages to a built-in system (like not being a target for thieves).
I went portable, but there are trade-offs either way.
Panasonic makes some double-DIN models that would fit some cars in the dash, but not the Tribeca. The one that handles traffic data is $1600 plus install is $250 IIRC. So price becomes a wash.
One nice thing is you can add a rear view camera to the Panasonic systems for $200 more plus labor.
-juice
Bob
prlady1, "Talk to the Press" #919, 11 Aug 2005 5:26 pm
It's how my family ended up on the front page of the Cars section of the NY Times. Jeannine is awesome.
-juice
There is a bypass around a small town that is brand new, I'm curious to see how up-to-date the Garmin data is. That's one thing the Tribeca's NAV did not catch, though it did send us on an alternate route that worked fine.
I want it soon so I can compare results, basically. I'll be sure to share my thoughts.
-juice
If you have NAV it is on the info screen when you choose the first display option that shows average MPG and above that a constantly moving bar displaying real time MPG. Below those two bars is the range indicator.
I never felt safer than when I was in my 2001 BMW M5. There were many situations where I avoided trouble because of the cars unbelievable power and handling.
Also by pushing a vehicle to its limits - as I believe you stated - your learn what the car can and more importantly can not do in emergency situations.
Whenever I get a new car, I take it out a shopping mall or other area with a large parking lot after the first real snow of the season. I go late at night or very early when the lot is empty, and deliberately throw it into sides and skids so I can safely learn what to expect in the real world.
Years ago when I purchased my fist SUV (Grand Cherokee) I learned an important lesson that was invaluable. Never having had a 4X4 before I thought they could do almost anything well on snow and ice.
The lesson learned was that a good one can accelerate so much better than a sedan but was quite surprised when I found that they can not stop any faster. Knowing that saved my life once. Those lessons should not be learned on the street.
The review seemed fair and balanced but it had too many factual errors. I'm surprised, too, because I pointed out at least one mistake to Karl about a month ago.
-juice
Knowing what the temp is in real time is of no real real value - but the driver needs to know if the roads are possibly icing up.
There is enough clutter on the screen as it is.
Need to know info is more important than "hey look at all the unnecessary crap on my screen".
-juice
VDC can not save you on black ice if you go flying into it (and I do not mean speeding) on say a turn. No grip is no grip. Subarus may be great but they can not deploy cleats or spikes when they encounter ice. The tire is the wink link there and if it can not grip the ice - thats it - game over - you crash.
Bob