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Thanks!
In general I like it , but:
1. Steering seems to be too light ( a matter of taste of coarse)
2. Tiptronics upshifts are still felt and slow (compares to Acura TSX)
3. Phone buttons on the steering wheel do not work...dealer was saying that if I pay ~$250 parts + ~$200 labor, bluetooth adapter can be installed.
4. No direct ipod connection/AUX in, but dealer was saying that if I pay ~$200 parts + ~$200 labor some kind of adapter can be installed
5. XM radio sound quality was not very good
XM Demo channel issue? CD sound quite good
To buy or not to buy?:confuse: I do not know...
We dont get DSG here in US on Passat, so we have to deal with Tiptronic, which is ok, but as great as DSG. Acura TSX shines with manual, and it loses a lot with auto ,IMO.
Passats torque compesates that big time.
Lack of Bluetooth is what bothers me on my Passat also, and even after instalation , your "telephone" button will not work. Ipod adapter is done better, you can leave Ipod in your glovebox and control it with steering wheel buttons.
Satellite radio quality is issue with a lot of car manufacturers (or is it the XM/Sirius signal itself?). I drove couple of rentals from Avis and the quality of sat. radio was not any better that the one in my Passat.
Sirius in my car is better them FM, but nowhere near the CD quality sound, I agree.
All in all, I had the Passat 2.0T for 3 months now, and I am very happy. 2500 miles on od, averaging 22 city and 32 highway.Sticker with Pcg.2, retail $28.415- I got it for $26.000+tax.
So you could have a 4 door coup or 2 door sedan.
In the Passat’s case it looks like rear seat room (and height) is reduced in order to gain style looks like a good compromise to me.
Although the Passat coupe's pictures are pretty much the picture worth a 1,000 words in further describing this style, perhaps the best and highest quantities of views of the 4 door coupe can be found if you google the Mercedes CLS.
The Passat "coupe" does indeed look as distinctive as some of those classic hardtops from the golden age of automobiles.
Are both of these 10-spoke wheels available? Is the version that no one seems to know much about only on European models?
Anyway, when I hear "coupe" I always think of a two door car usually with a trunk and not a hatchback. VW and Mercedes can call them what they want, but I'll bet that when you go get a tag or purchase insurance for the car, if it has four doors and a trunk they'll list it as a sedan.
If the "rounded" shape makes it a coupe, then all those Tauruses and Sables from the late 90's should qualify as coupes - NOT!
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This may not make a hill of beans worth of difference, but Audi/VW make well over 800,000 engines, perhaps by now over 900,000 or 1,000,000 engines per year.
My belief [and my experience]is that these engines are 99.75% "perfect." You may be turned off forever -- and assuming you otherwise like your new Passat, well, that is too bad and too bad for VW since we are seeing your experience here on the WWW.
Why you want another car is certainly your own business. Assuming the car is not able to be lemoned, I would at least consider allowing them to fix it, then if they fail, you will get a new one, and perhaps even a 2007.
All cars break eventually in some way, rarely this major.
Consider toughing it out -- I again checked out the new Passat, and I find it to be an interesting car, to say the least.
If they fix it, other than a $ loss what is your recourse anyway?
:confuse:
I think with details worked out, it is doable and viable, but nobody seems to be really interested in putting it on paper.
It is definitely something VW needs to work on - there are too many reports of people who feel they are getting screwed with their post-sale service for it to be just incidental. It looks like a pattern - sell and then make a lot of effort not to accept responsibility if things don't get as promised/predicted.
2018 430i Gran Coupe
I did not know there are still some of us still around,
I love it! I stand corrected, but I will always consider a coupe a 2 door. ha.
jick
Grandpa finally had to have his car taken away in his late 70's, but he would always tell us grandkids about his last car. "I can't drive anymore, but my last car was a great one - it was a sports coupe!!". For the record, it was a ford escort....
Back in the 1950s there was a style of car called the "hardtop convertible", which was a two or four door with no pillar between the front and rear side windows. The windows were framed in chrome and when they were down the side of the car was completely open.My father had a 1957 Plymouth Fury in this body style. Body shake and sqeaking were key features of this design.
Also, back in the 1940's "business coupes" were produced. These were two door sedans with short wheel bases and token or no back seats. The rear seat area was made to carry samples and other small cargo.
Try these:
BMW 330i
BMW M5
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution
Subaru Impreza WRX STI
Krzys
I agree with dino001 that VW needs to address their most glaring deficiency - lack of post-sale customer service and satisfaction. If this area was top rate, they could double their sales in the U.S. I wonder if they provide this lack of post-sale service to their European customers?
My experience with the customer care advocates at VWoA has left me with the sourest of tastes in my mouth. If they would offer today to replace the car, I would decline. I will pursue a refund through the Lemon Laws and spend my money with a manufacturer who is willing to accept responsibility if they produce a clunker.
Aye yes, the infamous "Sport Coupe". My father had no back seat in his "business coupe", thank you for reminding me. But,I have never had a coupe.
I feel (my opinion only) the 06, 3.6L Passat's are one of the best cars on the road. It is definetly the best handeling car's I have ever driven.
(Remember when tire's were an "extra")ha!
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You said: "Lack of Bluetooth is what bothers me on my Passat also, and even after instalation , your "telephone" button will not work. Ipod adapter is done better, you can leave Ipod in your glovebox and control it with steering wheel buttons."
Did you try Passats with Bluetooth on them? How do u know a Bluetooth phone won't communicate with the Bluetooth in the Car?
Also, did u install an IPOD adapter in ur car?
Thanks.
I did not install the ipod in my vehicle, hovewer there is a ton of information on the vwvortex forums about several different ways to install the several different adapters.
Bluetooth:
I did drive the euro-spec Passat last December in Europe, and Bluetooth was working great(I think it is done by Nokia). My friend owns a Passat and I liked it during my stay that I decided that I will get one for our next family car(which I did in February).
US spec Passat does not have integrated Bluetooth adapter, and the only way to do it is with aftermarket adapter, Motorola beeing the best choice,IMO. I think VWoA is aware that people are pissed off about not beeing able to get the Bluetooth atleast as an option on US spec models, and it is a high possibility that it will be available for 07 models, along with some other goodies( Sport packages available for 2.0T models, etc)
If anyone is having this issue, please let me know. Or if you think it is normal, then tell me that too!! I am open for suggestions here.
I find it hard to rationalize some of the decisions that are made by VWoA. As the general manager at the VW dealership where I bought my Passat told me - "They just don't get it". :confuse:
Two days later I heard from VWoA offering to replace my car. You be the judge as to who or what had the most influence over VW's decision.
I really enjoyed the short time that I was able to drive the original Passat - my first VW / Euro engineered vehicle. I'm happy that I will have another opportunity to judge a volkswagen product.
Never give up the fight.
Heh!
It sounds like you handled things calmly and professionally, yet with an absolute, clear goal from which you never wavered. Good for you!
Keep us posted about what goes on from here.
I had a less than pleasant buying experience to say the least. The car arrived 10 weeks after the order was placed. The salesman never called me to give me updates during the 10 week wait period. I needed to follow up with the sales team to get information about my car. I requested price quotes on accessories for the new wagon via email but never received the correct information except when I finally contacted the dealer by phone.
THE MIDDLE:
The sales manager appraised my current vehicle but never called me with a quote! How rude! Once again I had to f/u with the dealer. The SM said he gave the quote to my salesman. My salesman never called me.
The End:
I told the SM that I didn't want to be represented by the original salesman and the sm agreed.
I financed the car over three years. The dealer marked up the factory offer of 2.9% to 3.9%. A one percent mark up?
The dealer also passed along advertising fees as part of the invoice price and a 25 dollar port fee.
The dealer only apologized for all the poor communication along the way. The dealer didn't offer a complimentary first oil change. As for the accessories, I was given the number of the parts department for further assistance.
On top of it all I have a nasty rattle coming from the driver's side door pillar and some squeaky sounding windows. The car has 25 miles on it!
However on the interest rate, did you call the dealer on this when he marked up the interest rate? I believe the fine print in all those offers states "for well qualified buyers" which means they set an arbitrary minimum credit score. I don't know what your score is but you are entitled to ask the dealer about this to make sure he is not taking advantage of you. When I ordered my Passat I made sure to get the interest rate in writing from the dealer before I placed the order in case the rate changed or they had a lapse in ethics.
Also, I don't know where or when you bought the car, but right now Edmunds.com says that VW is offering 3.9% for 36 months, not 2.9%. Was your dealer offering a special plan? If you are really that unhappy go back to the dealer and confront him on the interest rate issue. It is your only recourse, especially if you did qualify for the 2.9%. This can and should be rectifiable.
Not to be rude, but you really should not have agreed to an interest rate that was higher than it should have been. I feel for you but complaining to us after the fact, especially when you don't even mention the dealer name to warn us, is really not that helpful.
Sadly even though much of what you have said is not of your own doing, some of it seems to be some lack of preparation on your part.
I am in your corner, nevertheless.
Calmly and fully prepped, return with the facts say, "I am not here to complain about the past, but I would like to know how "we" are going to address this and move forward."
Perhaps, in one instance, 3.9% was / is the legit number, not 2.9%. Hate to ask, but where is the 2.9% proof?
Don't cave in, but don't lash out (ever) especially if there are gray areas. The more gray, the better -- for them.
Just a thought. :shades:
But, beware they may say -- "we believe the stuff here is correct but since it may not be we reserve the right, bla bla bla. . ."
Dealer Name and Address please.
Does anyone out there knows how to reset the service light on the 2006 Passat. I just got 10k miles and it's alerting. I've already did the oil & filter changed.
Thanks.
Bob Baker VW in Carlsbad, CA is the dealer with issues. I talked to Herman Cook VW in Encinitas, CA and they don't mark up the interest rate.
According to Herman Cook the extra invoice fees listed in my original post are charged to all San Diego area dealers by the manufacturer.
I haven't even received a call by the dealer to see if I'm alive. The rattle in the driver's door is still alive and well. I never got a free first oil change voucher either, like most dealers give their new customers.
From past experience, be resolute with VW but not threatening. They respond in a very defensive manner when threatened. You may also want to schedule a meeting with the dealership's service manager and general manager. Ask them why the problem keeps recurring. I have found that open and honest discussions with these folks tends to get them on your side. I was given information and coaching "off the record" by the managers that I spoke with during my ordeal with VWoA.
Keep up the fight!