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Ls460 msrp = $67,242
Cp = Comfort Package
Nv = Navaigation With Bluetooth/backup Camera
Pp = Auto Power Door Close & Auto Power Trunk
Pa = Parking Assist
Z1 = Preferred Accessory Package
Ls460l msrp = $85,947
as = Air Suspension With Vgrs
Ll = Luxury Package
Lr = Rear Seat Upgrade Package
Mh = Mark Levinson/dvd Changer - With Hard Drive
Mz = Lexus Link
Pa = Parking Assist
Pi = Advanced Parking Guidance System
Ps = Pre Colision System & Dynamic Radar Cruise
Z1 = Preferred Accessory Package
The LS460L is aggressively priced, and is right on top of the 750iL. This may add feul to Tag's fire on that note.
I don't think Lexus is after BMW customers any more or less than they are after Mercedes customers. I believe Lexus' priority is to replace Mercedes as the preeminent luxury marque in the US.
With that in mind, I would price the 600 right on top of the S550, and see what shakes out.
This would increase market awareness and brand image, and maybe Lexus will sell more than 2-3k hybrids. It's as good a time as any to find out if this luxury hybrid class has legs or not.
If Lexus can sell more than 3k 600h a year, than the model is a success, IMHO.
Considering I predicted a 10/15 launch date, and a 10/2 price release date, I'd say I was accurate enough.
The LS460L is VERY well-equipped, and the 750i is in for a long 2007. Std NAV makes the spread $10k. A novel approach, since it is extremely rare for NAV to be standard on any car, HELM or not.
Considering the low price on the SWB, 30k sales is a low-ball estimate. 40 is more accurate, and 45-50k is not out of the question in '07!
DrFill
One Lexus dealership, Lexus of Glendale in CA, has posted MSRPs for several optioned-out new LS models (at ClubLexus):
LS 460 $67,242 with Comfort pkg, NAVI, power door/trunk, LEXUS Park Assist, and Preferred Accessory pkg
LS 460L $85,947 with Air suspension, Rear seat upgrade pkg, Mark Levinson DVD audio and HDD, Lexus Link, Advanced Parking Guidance System (auto-park), Pre-Collision and Dynamic Radar CC, Preferred Accessory pkg
With the 460L pricing at nearly $86,000 you can imagine how high the LS 600h L is going to get.
LS 460 $67,242 with Comfort pkg, NAVI, power door/trunk, LEXUS Park Assist, and Preferred Accessory pkg
Close to what I'd want.... I'd include ML, remove Park Assist, and add the Touring Package. And if I can somehow get that at $70K list, I'd take one... Maybe an '08 LS460 SWB would be so optioned....
I have to say, these list prices are very aggresive indeed !!!
I don't know how they did it, but the leather in the 460 feels softer and even MORE luxurious than that of the 430.
The new steering wheel makes you want to just sit there like an idiot holding it. The triple polish thing makes a difference!
The new bluish instrument panel looks very upscale.. and just plain cool.
The nicer, larger navigation screen is as close to a flat panel plasma as you can get in a car!
I've got to find SOMETHING to nag about -- the glove box door felt a bit flimsy when closing it -- perhaps it was defective due to the hundreds of other folks poking around in the car?
The hot car-model-turntable lady made a speech confirming the prices ($61 starts you out, $71 for the longer car). She said the price would top out at $94K for the 460L with every option checked off. She said dealers were promised the cars for sale on the 20th. My wife slapped me for staring more at the model-in-the-business-suit than at the LS.
Overall this car is on the top of my list when lease renewal time comes around late next year. I figure by then the hoopla has died down and more competitive pricing will once again be available in the Miami market.
Looking at this car in person, it looks fantastic inside and out. I can only imagine how she drives. )))
Are you going to the Taste of Lexus event in November?
I am going on November 19th.
Thanks!
And finally the very nice FamilyCar article is updated, thx for the link.
I figure the LS lease rates will cool down in no time down here. I've noticed that the hoopla over new models don't seem to last much and once the newness wears off it's business as usual.
The LS is a special car though, and for sure it will cost more to lease it. Perhaps 5-10% more per month?
Excelsior -- the instrument panel IS really neat. Everything seems to just be floating around in there. More so that in the current LS. Night drives in this beast must be a treat!
What it will lease for also depends upon the calculated residual at least end, and the lease factor (interest rate). It may actually not be more, or as much as the 05's, if they are expected to hold their value better.
I doubt this will be the case during the next 6 months or so!!
First adopters get the bragging rights but usually pay top price for that distinction.
I'm curious to see the first LS460 owners trickle in with their price posts.
I found out about it from another poster and I signed up online.
Go to tasteoflexus.com and sign up.
If they took me, they must really be desperate!
I would figure $750-$800 a month for you, since your current lease forces you to wait until the excitement dies down, which is a very good thing, and you know how to negotiate a good deal. Many people who jump on the bandwagon early will probably pay $900 a month and up.
It's good to see you posting again!
See you at the pate line! I'll park my 545 around back!
Now that my football team is deeply embedded in last place, it will give me something to look forward to on a Sunday afternoon in mid-November.
for example, would you stop and admire if a S-Class passed by or a LS passed by?
for me, I think it would be more of the S-Class mainly because of its branding and the pricing of the vehicle...">
Not that they are perfect by any means, but it's interesting how different the new Lexus cars look vs. the previous generation, and vs. the competition. I am looking forward to seeing the new LS in person.
packages w/estimated pricing for SE area
LS460 #1
Premium package
CP comfort pkg
PA intuitve park assist
Trunk mat, wheel locks...
Approx $63680
LS460 #2
CP comfort pkg
NL Navi/Levinson with HDD and XM radio
PA intuitive park assist
Trunk mat, wheel locks...
Approx $69325
LS460 #3
CP
MZ Lexus Link
NP Navi/Levinson with advanced Parking Guidance, HDD, XM...
PA
PP Power trunk/door closers
Trunk mat, Wheel locks...
Approx $71320
LS460L
AS Air Suspension
LL Luxury pkg. with Semi-Aniline leather
MH Mark Levinson with HDD
MZ Lexus Link
PA Intuitive park assist
PI Advanced Parking Guidance system
Trunk mat, Wheel locks...
Approx $81420
LS460L
LP Exec. Seating pkg
AS
MH
MZ
PA
PI
Trunk mat, Wheel locks...
Approx $91315
Other packages were posted earlier, here.
Indeed, they do. Which is why I try to find a nice one that's about a year old. Save about $20,000 that way. Car is still under warranty, and usually well cared for. If not, it hasn't gone so far it should matter much.
I have no desire for the 4 seat package or the self parking and it's obvious the self parking feature is purely aimed at the chaffeurred crowd and offers a lot of early bragging rights. The car is a knockout and looked far more beautiful and sleeker on TV than it does in the pix posted on here yesterday. For all of us first year buyers I think this car is not going to slow down much in sales volume/demand or discount off MSRP until we are into year 2 production. Just my feeling that this car is going to hit a bigger sweetspot among lux car buyers than Lexus or anyone else thinks. Remember that the LS600HL introduced 6 months from now will keep the accolades going and then I would'nt be surprised if Lexus moves the engine to a 500 or 550 displacement in year 2. That seems to be the latest Lexus strategy - increase engine size/peformance after leaving yourself wiggle room in year 1.
Various posters elsewhere try to downplay the value of the parking feature, by saying you need an extra 4 feet, and that's too much.
That's 2 feet on each side, and if you own a LS, especially in Manhattan, you probably wouldn't risk cramming it into a space much smaller than 2 feet per side.
I expect 40k sales in 2007. Conservative estimate.
DrFill
40K cars is also what I'd expect but it may go higher and I expect that the LS460L will sell a lot better than Lexus is planning.
Until now, you'd have to pony up $300K and up to get something that good, and Lexus offers it on a mainstream lux sedan, and at prices well south of $100K. I think its a great marketing strategy to offer a LOT for less. Do you need a Maybach 57/62 at $250 - 400K range, when Lexus offers all that and more for $90K ????? And you can even have the car park itself too.... That's why this LS series will be a huge winner in the market.
The LS series will win the sales crown going away... The key is Europe and Japan sales. Based on early returns, Japan will really pick up on the new LS, let's see how it plays in Europe.
For the money, all I'm saying is the SWB would do me fine, I think.
Maybe I'm just getting older . . .
Renny
For me though, the main reason to get excited is the AWD, which will allow me for the first time to get the LS.
Dictionary definition of "penultimate": next to the last.
So your statement is hardly complimentary. "Ultimate" might be a word to use but I wouldn't use it because of the abuse of it by BMW.
IMO, the reason to be excited about the LS 460 includes its new styling, interior design, features (new high-res large touchscreen, HDD, NavTraffic, ML sound system with iPod connectivity, gracenote, etc.). A lot of it is evolutionary over the previous LS' strengths, including the interior comfort levels, smooth ride, etc. But also the vehicle is supposed to be sportier than the last.
Although, yes, the LS 460 L is taking the limelight here, but a lot of it IMO is rubbing off on the LS 460 itself. These are amazing, world-class leading cars.
BTW, considering the LS 460 L commanding upwards of $91,000 when fully loaded, anyone care to revise estimates for how much the LS 600h L will cost?
OOps..... So have I, and I'm an English Major....
However, this is the source of the word, and he's right, it means last.
penult
One entry found for penult.
Main Entry: pe·nult
Pronunciation: 'pE-"n<, pi-'
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin paenultima penult, from feminine of paenultimus almost last, from paene almost + ultimus last -- more at ULTIMATE
: the next to the last member of a series; especially : the next to the last syllable of a word
Good point - but again you need to look at the ranges here. That $91K price is an LS460L with everything included. You probably don't see that car once the HL is here. Cars fully optioned often cross a path where the next level up car starts and in my book the moment you even get near that point you abandon the lower tiered car. If I look at ranges I'd say the LS460L goes from $71-$91K and the LS 600HL ranges from $85-$105K. It's really going to be based on what the option prices are. If the LS600HL is loaded the way the initial specs showed then maybe the range is tighter - say $90-$100K or $95K to $105K. My feeling is that once the LS600HL arrives you'll need to custom order an LS460L to reach that $91K number.
Reference: Canadian Oxford Dictionary.
BTW - I will never use this word again.
Getting away from the "penultimate" and talking about the "supreme", are you still in line for the LS600hL or have you had a change of heart and going for the LS460L?
I am very much looking forward to the LS600hL. The only thing that concerns me a little about the 600 is the trunk size. I have heard some rumors that it will be really tiny, perhaps 8-10 cubic feet due to the size and location of the battery. I cannot believe that Lexus would ever design a car of this type with that small of a trunk. I am thinking that it will be more like 12-15 cubic feet. As long as my wife and I can fit a few pieces of luggage in the trunk for long trips (and I plan on taking some long trips with this incredible vehicle), I am fine with it. Have you heard anything more about it?