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How much for one that's not made out of Silver?
Shop this job around to some independents... unless the compressor died in a big way and you have to change the condensor and backflush everything this seems very high to me.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
I would shop around, look for an independent shop that would be more flexible in working with you.
Also, you could just drive it with the windows down .
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Why, if a window AC can be had at Wal Mart for $90, does a car AC cost $3000? :confuse:
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/dude_attaches_home_windows_ac_to_his_car.php-
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'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
There are 3 downsides to this strategy:
1) Rusting body work completely changes this picture (but that is pretty much a thing of the past!)
2) Used cars require a bit of flexibility in order to cope with repairs. A second car or alternative transportation is a great help with this problem.
3) Used cars are not very impressive - if that is important to you.
An automotive AC system is nothing like a home window unit. The only thing the same is the principle of operation.
My 1995 Fleetwood at 198,000 miles had no issues, no leaks, no falling off trim (I did have the belt line trim repainted a few yeard back). The only thing was that occasionally the memory seat would think i'm 4'8" and move the seat too close up.
My 1996 Fleetwood (83,000 mi) is the opposite. It think's I'm 7'2" and does not move it far enough up. These are two problem free cars, expeciually compared to the 7-series mentioned.
Anyway initial repair estimate is approx $3,500. Car is worth maybe $6,000-8,000 i don't know enough details about it and Edmunds TMV on used cars is usually in fantasy land. Problem is they owe some $8,600 on it still????? I owe less on my wife's 2008 CTS but that's besides the point.
Of course they have no money and want / need us to pay for most of it. I could maybe agree, but this is a never ending saga. Her younger brother is a similar train wreck on cars & financial sense and their parents (my wife's older sister) are a financial nightmare. These guys think I'm their personal banker and my wife has a 100 megaton short fuse when it comes to these subjects. I told her if we agree, then I'm getting a rear drive northStar STS. She said i could have the STS and but not her. That's looking like a better & better deal, but i digress.
Would it make better bottom line $ sense to take advangage of one of those "$5,000 minimum trade in on any new XXX model" from the kia & mitsubshiiti hawks or just sink the $3,500 into this one.
Lets see keep old one means sink $3,500 into an 8 year old car, they they STLLL owe $8,600 on. Trade with one of those "minimum trade" crazies = 8,600 owe - 5,000 trade = 3,600 net negative equity, so initial look is NO - would cost more to buy a new car, even though the new car will have a warranty. But it may mean no money out of pocket for me, since they might be able to roll the $3,600 into the new car.....
If they owed much less on the Liberty, then that would make sense. Am i right on this?
Then of course, what do we mean by "blow the engine"? Is it a complete loss, is it a head gasket...what?
I think before I pulled the trigger on anything here I'd get two opinions, AND a very clear description, in detail, of what is wrong with this engine. I mean, you're footing the bill and you have a right to accurate information on which to base your decision.
I don't think the "minimum trade" gimmick is anything more than a manipulative sales tool. They'll just pack it in on the other end of the deal and you'll end up, in reality, getting no more for the Jeep than if you sold it as a parts car.
If I were King ('it's GOOD to be King!" :P ) I'd ask them to sell the damaged vehicle and with whatever they get for it, use that to buy some beater until they can come up with a decent down on a car you may be willing to co-sign on.
Can't sell it, unless they pay off the $8600 loan...
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My point was no thanks to the maintenance nightmare euros.
In THAT case, fixing the car seems the only reasonable option. You don't buy a new car for penniless people--that's just crazy and ASKING for more grief---such as, what happens if they smash up the new car and don't have gap insurance? Guess who gets stuck for the difference.
I'm very leery of the "$5,000 minimum trade gimmicks, i usually change the station when i hear one, but they are everywhere here in FL. Can't find a forum topic on thet subject here - maybe i'm looking at in the wrong sections. In orlando it's mostly the Kia dealers. If they do execute a new car trade in with this libeerty, there wioll only be 1 loan, albiet an inflated one. but that leads me to question what thell did they get into when they bought this current vehicle?????
I haven't seen the liberty. They are all in the Tampa area and I'm working in Orlando. I'll be there this weekend. Word from my wife, from her neice (with total car knowledge is what your 8 yr old sister might know) is that a radiator failure (crack??) caused an overheat an engine fail on the interstate.
Now, chances are.... they won't keep up with the payments... (and, no offense to your relatives), because most people can't separate "money owed" from the car payment...
So, they'll probably get it repossessed...
But, at least you are only out $2500....
You seem to know that you can't fix their problems.... so, just do the minimum to allow them to keep working (and, minimize your cash outlay until the next time).
That's what I would do.. but, it's harder when it's someone you care about....
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They are paying their bills on time, etc, but have no savings, and i don't know the details on this liberty they bought. They know i have the knowledge they need for these things but they are too stubborn to seek out competent advice before they execute a large financial transaction. Same with mey brother (wife's nephew) who has even less financial sense and no car knowledge either.
Is there any consensus on geatting a new car and putting $3,600 (possibly more depending on what one of those minimum trade scams are really hiding) of negative equity into the new car loan (or a down payment - there goes my my cash again..)???
That would at least get them a car with a warranty.
No offense taken. Their younger brother (wife's nephew) already had a near repo - guess who paid for that??? You know what - that car, currently owned by their parents, is available. Maybe they can use that car. Sure, that would make sense. don't get me started.
$5000 minimum trade? Sure. $3995 or more over sticker.
Reality is that this Jeep with a blown engine is worth $500 as a trade in. So... you probably have $8000 to bury in the new car deal.. that's gonna be tough unless they have stellar credit and buy something that you can bury that kind of money in, and that ain't gonna be a $18k car.
That's sure the way I would push it.... Let them keep making payments on that Jeep... while driving someone else's (free) car..
I'd rather dole out a few hundred at a time, if they really needed it.... or, just be extra generous at Christmas... rather than have them come to you for multiple thousands at a time... That's a hard habit to break...
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I can remember thinking that my parents (an uncle? wow. just wow.) should bail me out when I was younger so I get a little of the mindset but short of them having to face economic reality and deal with it this will never end.
We have a few of those $5,000 over on any trade here in NJ. Most of them are (sorry, Bill) Hyundai dealers.
Is the pump leaking or just noisy? What's with the steering?
I just traded an 04 Odyssey that no doubt has loads of life if not value in it because I was nuts having to always drive it. Got a Solara convertible. MAde out well on the deal so I'm happy.
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I have not replaced the tranny but for years it has lurched and jerked from first to second. Not always but sometimes.
I was afraid someone would ask about the repair details... I don't remember the specifics of the steering problem.
I am kinda done with minivans. That said, wife likes having one around and she hates car payments. (experience has taught me she's usually right).
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
$35,000 for a new one today causes it to be worth $20,000 in 3 years while repairing the original car may be less than $3,500. In addition, you have to consider the investment loss of taking $35,000 out of the market to buy the depreciating motor car.
Now keep in mind that the trade-in price can be made to look better than it is, because they can pack the selling price.
What I'd do is first work out a selling price for the car you want and don't even mention that you have a trade-in. Then come back the next day with the car and say you've decided to trade it.
I know they'll hammer you for the damage but hard to say if it's going to be $1500 or not. They can fix the car a lot cheaper than you can.
In 2008, we sold the car to my son, but he wanted the damaged areas fixed up. So we took it to an independent shop and for something like $350 plus a case of Bud Lights :P they repaired both damaged areas. I was really surprised at how cheap it was.
Covered herself in paint, then rolled around on a canvas and left butt-prints? :surprise:
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I had my back bumper redone on the cheap and it was okay but I recently saw the car (I sold it, a Scion xA, 2 years ago) and the paintwork has definitely deteriorated.
The dealer estimate was 7k for parts and labor with no guarantee, ...
The dealer estimate was 7k for parts and labor with no guarantee, ...
Has the vehicle been properly diagnosed or are people guessing? Has a compression test or cylinder leakdown test been taken and have you been shown the results?