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Toyota Tacoma vs Nissan Frontier
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If being #1 in sales is your criteria for success then GM is more successful than Toyota and has been for a long time.
With experience selling new Toyota's I can tell you that I lost sales due to the inflexibility of Toyota equipment levels and regional allocation. At least with the domestics I could obtain what was advertised in the brochure!
I know from experience buying Toyotas that they lose more sales because they can't make them fast enough than because they are uncustomizable. I went to three dealers before finding what I wanted. They rolled 2 of them off the truck Saturday afternoon and sold one of them before I got back there Sunday morning and bought the other. The one dealer finally called back over a month later to say they got one in. Then they asked why I never come in anymore. I wasn't looking for anything special. Just wanted a TRD Off Road. Judging by the number of them running around up here, I guess everyone else wanted one too. I would guess that 40% are TRD Off Road, 30% Sports, and the rest are 2 wheel drive, SR5 4 wheel drive and Prerunners. I don't think the packages are hurting them at all.
I said the same thing when I bought a Nissan truck (to replace a Toyota with 300k and 12 years on it) a few years back. This time I paid the extra for my Toyota.
I sincerely hope you like your Nissan better than I liked mine.
Critter Fish'in the SURF!
Are you for real?
When I asked the dealer about the tow+stereo bundle, he shrugged and said, "That's the only way you can get the factory tow package in this region." I still think it was a regional screw job, but maybe not.
Of course you don't have the sheet. And everyone I have asked to show me their problems with Tacomas in person are too busy. Of course they have time to post bogus complaints though. Anyone can create 30 profiles to make it look like a trend. Can you say UAW?
This is the exact wording from a complaint to the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) where complaints go aka where recall info goes. To the average idiot this makes sense, but anyone that knows anything about vehicles knows that the rear end can fall out of the vehicle and it will still shift into gear. May not move, but it will shift. Just shows that 99.9% of the complaints are from people that have no clue. They are just trying to dog your vehicle without driving it. Happens to all the companies.
By the way, one can achieve 25 m.p.i.g. on the open road at or near the speed limit with the Nissan Frontier V-6 4X4. I know, because I did. The Tacoma V-6 4X4 can better that by approx. 2 m.p.g.
Of course, as for all of us here on the Forum, I cannot verify my figures. But, guess what?
sounds like you got a awesome truck!!,did you get the XM stero?
I've noticed since I have XM that i hardly even use the raido....
Good luck.
Just think. If you converted to Imperial Gallons you would improve your m.p.g. by 20% to 25.5 miles per gallon. Now what in the whole, wide world could be wrong with that?
God bless us all!
1. I kept that readout for at least 6 months before throwing it away. If I had known then how excruciatingly important this is to you, I would have kept it just for you, gotten it notarized and sealed with a kiss, before sending it to you.
2. As for showing problems with Tacomas, I already posted the details of the test-drive truck's problems on this website. So have other people who test-drove BOTH Frontiers and Tacomas.
3. You keep accusing people who aren't blowhard Toyota fans of being liars. Do you have any "evidence" to back up your assumption?
4. I have made exactly one profile to post on the Edmunds websites. The fact that 30 other people don't agree with your opinions doesn't mean there is an anti-Toyota conspiracy.
You appear to have a vested interest in propagating only good news about Toyotas--vested in the literal meaning of the term. You also have repeatedly shown a pattern of behavior that I will not elaborate on here but has made me decide this is the last post I will address to you.
I do intend to keep posting balanced views of Toyotas as well as other vehicles, so you'll just have to put up with that.
midnight I don't Hate TOYS! but I dislike they're dealers immensely! They gauge way to much!
Alright!!! You are cool, man!!! BTW, do you have a thing with goats?
And another thing -- it is not gouging when the next guy on the lot will gladly pay what they are asking. Just cuz you don't wanna pay it, doesn't constitute gouging (or gauging as you call it). Congrats again on blowing by the goat.
Glad to hear you are enjoying your Fronty!
I like the way people come on here and complain about the price of Toys, and brag that they got their Fronty for thousands below book and/or the Toy price. Guess what. The dealer that sold you it for that price didn't think is was worth any more either or he would still have it on his lot. If the Fronty dealer has to drop the price thousands and offer to polish your chrome, while the Toy salesmen wait in the building for people to come ask them questions and then refuse to deal, maybe the price is a good sign of the quality. I know Nissan has good products, but the numbers show that Toys sell themselves. And resell themselves for more.
Glad to see that this forum is still a Frontier forum in goat's clothing.
I'd owned both a Frontier and a Tacoma in the past and I thought I was going to buy a Tacoma. Comparing the previous generation Tacoma vs. Frontier IMO the Tacoma was a better truck in the area of engine, interior and exterior styling.
Now the Frontier has a VQ based engine that is one of Wards 10 Best Engines in the world for the past 12 years!
It is excellent.
Now the Frontier has IMO better styling than the Tacoma although I could be very happy with either trucks styling.
Now the Frontier has an interior that is as good as the Tacoma and seats that are superior. The seats were the weakest point in the Tacoma.
Now the Frontier has a NISMO off road package that is equal to the TRD off road in it's base form and superior when equipped with the traction package.
The Frontier has available sunroof and available Rockford Fosgate sound system. Tacoma does not offer sunroof and does not have a JBL system that will match the quality of the Rockford.
No wonder Edmunds rated the Frontier ahead of the Tacoma.
No wonder I ended up surprised that I purchased a Frontier NISMO.
The bottom line is that while both trucks were discounted similarly, the Frontier is equipped better when priced equally to the Tacoma and is a better truck for the money.
kcram - Pickups Host
As we say in cycling:
"It's only a race if everyone agrees it's a race"
Actual track tests of the trucks are so close neither of you would have smoked the other... :shades:
Now lets get back to the trucks.
Cheers!
vehicles.
I do disagree with you that just because the
next guy on the lot is willing to pay the price that it is not gouging.
I am not refering to Toyota here, but to the gasoline prices. I think there is gouging going on, but I have to have gasoline so I pay the price.
I do a lot less driving now than I did when the
prices were a little more user friendly and that is how I pay the oil companies back.
OkieScot
I wonder how long it'll take Honda to send this thing back to the styling studio.
I try to stay neutral on this topic as I think both trucks are very nice. I drive a Frontier
but my wife drives a Solara. The Solara is the nicest car I have ever owned.
Is the Solara perfect? No, it has a few problems, but I still think it is the best car I have ever owned.
I did test drive a Tacoma when I bought my Frontier. It was nice, but for my style of
little old man driving I could not see 10 cents
worth of difference between the two.
My choice was made because of the price and the styling of the Frontier. While you feel that Toyota is superior in styling I come down on the Nissan side. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I will admit that my wife thinks my taste is a little strange. I mean how many people think that a Daimler Dart SP 250 is a nice looking car, yet I love them.
As far as reliability is concerned I have had
3 Nissan pickups over a period of 26 years and
I have never had to do more than replace a few
batteries, a water pump, and an alternator.
The difference between these two trucks is very
slim. When you factor in the lemons by both
manufacturers there are no guarantees that you
will get a bulletproof truck from either.
I had a 1969 Toyota Crown I bought new and kept for less than a year. It would just quit running and have to sit for a while before it would run again. Does that make all Toyotas bad? No, my wife is currently driving a very nice one. Will I buy another Toyota when we are ready to trade. There is a very good chance that I will as the Nissans cars I have
owned have not been as comfortable to drive on trips.
It is amazing to me that on the recent 1100 mile trip we took in the Frontier we both felt
more comfortable in the truck than the Solara.
My wife even agreed with that.
The Solara is still more comfortable than the
810 and Maxima we owned.
Each of us must make a choice based on our personal preferences. I am thankful that we have to really nice trucks that are so close in quality to choose from.
OkieScot
I don't own either one of these trucks (at least yet) and my Subaru is the vehicle of choice - it gets my heart rate up like no other.
By the way, I wouldn't be bragging too much about the Taco design and powerplant. They are IMO just O.K.
I'd add that the rattles and squeaks are the toughest to deal with because they are always present.
Of course all these items failed after the warranty expired.
My Subaru has been a delight thus far, my Honda Civic was near perfect, and my 81 Volvo 240 DL was care-free (except for a water pump and a fuel pump) until it was about 13.
Nissan has a somewhat middle of the road reputation for quality, but, my family owns 3 Nissans and they praise them.
If anything, the handling aspects of these two trucks are very close but I feel that Nissan has a slight edge. The gas mileage for both vehicles is poor but Toyota is marginally better. As looks go, purely subjective. I prefer the Nissan.
I believe that Nissan has made greater strides in improving the Frontier whereas Toyota has certainly improved the Tacoma, but to a lesser degree.
Cheers!
Hope Toyota changed the suspension on those 05's and 06's!
At least that was my take on it. And that Camry numb steering feel (my Sienna is similar). Toyota has their work cut out for them.
Ya, that was a major black eye for Toyota. 4 failures of a part over a 4 year period and hundreds of thousands of autos. You know what causes ball joints to fail? Not maintaining them. Ask Ford. There is atleast a 10 year string of Fords on the road with tie rods and ball joints that are not lubable, and are failing at less than 100K. I guarantee you that 9 out of every 10 tie rods on Fords from 1990 on (maybe even before) with atleast 90K on the odometer have either been replaced or need to be. When s mechanic can grab the tie rod and separate it with his bare hands, it is faulty, and in 20 years, I have never done that with anything but Fords.