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Just got back from the N.C. mtns. and the GT did great on those mountain road. I got to do all the driving which was fun. Now have 2,371 miles on the car. So far no complaints.
I am looking for some driving experience from existing Eclispe 2006 GT owners.
I test drove this car around the mountains of Saratoga/SF-Bay Area/and on long stretches too.
Cornering
enters corners with less confidence but pulls away out of the corner with more grunt
I found since it is a front wheel drive car its corenring ability was limited and the back screatched, as it is so much lighter in th abck, but to be fair I was entering the 25mil zone corner at 50, I use to have an SLK and compared to that the eclipse handling in corners is really not up to par, but for the price you for the car it is probably up there with the best.. Dont get me wrong it stays with the top players so far as cornering, but is not the best.
as I was cornering an pulling out of the corner there was a boxster behind me that struggled to keep up, as I pulled away from it in the long strecthes, I could see at times that the boster was taking the corners with more eas, this is just my visual inspection and I could be wrong
I noticed several times the engine over Torque causing a difference in speed between the left and right tires/wheels, and it feels for a second the car is being pulled to the left and suddenly to the right. The car has so much Torque that when you put your foot down the Torque problem occurs and causes the car to sway left and right
This car should ahvve been four wheel drive, it would have smoked the compitition
Take Off
This car can take off, probabaly not as fast as some of the tubo cars, like slk, 350z, etc, but if you arent experiences withhow much acceleration to apply, you will cause the front tires to spin and then lose on your 0-60 performance
seems sluggish at times and it miss times, I tried the sutomatic and the steptronic shift, I got on average better take off performance when using an automatic and left the sporttronic shifting alone
it seems on avergae, and averga to high poerformer in the 0-30mph range, maybe it stays up there with some of its compititors, but then it hits un-real amount of power from 30-60, it sceam towrds the second leg of the 0-60, 30-60, this is probabaly because it isnt turbo charged and hence there is a delay for the massive torque to come screaming in. All in all it didn't feel like I was missing my SLK so far as the power
Top Speed Take Off
awsome car here, anytime you want to accelrate from 60-100 it does it, and it jsut does it, probabaly a real muscle car here, it reminds me of a tough V8, but I guess at 3.8L V6 it is getting up there
Exterior Design
great back coupe design
I would have done a better job ont he front grill designa nd the lights, the grill looks too ordinary and the hood should have had some peaks/bumps to indicate there is a mean machine beneath
The side view mirror is in the wrong place it should have been further away from the driver, ie further towards the corner of the door, they really screwed this one up
Interior Design
Has to be leather, and the rest is awsome, except for the many blind spots, and the head rest seems not to provide adequate support for the neck area, some mods needed, but those you can get cheaply try katzkin.com
it is best in black I think
Pricing
If you can't afford a ferrari, but want the same kind of performance fo a third or less of the price you would get the corvette. The eclipse is in the same line of thought, cars that give you this kind of performance, cost way more the cheapest, is 350z at 10k more, or G35 at ecen more, and then it jsut gets worse in price wise with other more exotic cars.
I haven't bought one yet, but ive got it down to 22k-23k for the sprots package GT V6, there are only three mitsubish dealers here in the Santa Clara county, SF-Bay Area, and you can guess who the dealers are, I am still dealing with them and my guess is I will get it out the door for 23k+tax, GT V6 that includes the sports package.
To add to it, check out our Editor-in-Chief's blog - Karl on Cars. He talks about the 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT here: http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8c46f
You can add your comments and ask him some questions there.
BUT EVERYTHING WE HAVE READ SAYS THE SUN AND SOUND PACKAGE COMES WITH 9 SPEAKERS CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHERE THE OTHER 2 SPEAKERS ARE OR SHOULD BE?
IN OUR 2006 ECLIPSE WE HAVE COUNTED, 2 ON THE DASH, 2 IN THE DOORS, 2 IN THE REAR SEAT PANELS(which sound weak) AND 1 SUB IN THE TRUNK. WE DID PURCHASE THE SUN AND SOUND PACKAGE, WE HAVE THE FOSGATE, STEREO AND SUB. CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP US?
I think they would have done better to not promote the system as some street thumper with a built in sub. It is much better with adult music genres - classical, real jazz, vocals - than it is with noise like hip hop. They even messed up and added a hip hop setting on the stereo - I thought to myself, what the hell? Where is classical? Where is jazz?
find any information on any "convenience package"
that would include a garage door opener.
Any of you have this on your car? Thanks
THE 1996 TURBO 5 SPD:
The ’96 had 135K miles on it when I traded. I tried to like the 3G Eclipse but just couldn't see replacing the car I loved to drive with a car I couldn't get excited about. The ‘96 had been very well maintained, looked great, and was paid for long ago.
During the time I owned the 96, other than routine maintenance, I replaced an alternator, a power antenna, a harmonic balancer, and disk brake rotors front and rear (twice I think). I also optionally replaced a power window regulator (it got loose and noisy), and a broken fog light. I had the dealer do tune ups at 15K mile intervals. I found the brake maintenance requirements excessive, but, other than that, I was very satisfied with the reliability of the car. Reliability was a key factor in my decision to buy another Mitsubishi.
I'm not a hot rod guy but I do drive enthusiastically. Once the turbo spun up a bit (at about 2000 RPM), the front tires would break loose. On the highway at around 70 MPH (just a bit over 3000 RPM in 5th gear) power for passing was instantly available without downshifting or flooring it. Fuel economy overall was in the 26-30 MPG range.
I had planned to keep the car for another 2-3 years or until something new showed up that really caught my eye. Then, in about May, I saw the 2006 Eclipse GT on a TV commercial. I was hooked, but it took about 5 months for me to convince myself (much less my wife) that I should go get one.
I should add that I just turned 59 years old. My last three cars were a 1979 Mustang 302 4-spd that I put 150K miles on over 12 years, a 1986 Lincoln Towncar that I put over 100,000 miles on in about 6 years, and the 96 GST. Net: I keep cars a long time, and put a lot of miles on them. I may drive this new car for 10 years and 150k miles or more assuming my knees continue to allow me to operate a clutch!
Sorry for being so verbose but wanted to say who I am as somewhat of a foundation for what follows.
THE 2006 GT 6 SPD:
COMPARISON SHOPPING
I didn't do any! I wanted the Eclipse because of its looks, performance, reliability, and because you don't see one every time you drive down the street (i.e., a new Mustang!). I don't need the fastest car on the street or I'd be looking at Corvettes, Vipers, or something else I can't afford. I don't care if a Mustang GT can clean my clock or a 350Z can go from 60 to zero in two fewer feet than I can. I want a car that looks great, is faster than maybe 90% of the other cars on the road, is a lot of fun to drive, and is reliable. I think that's what I got.
THE DEALER
I've done business with two Mitsubishi dealers in the Dallas, TX area. Don Herring Mitsubishi has three locations in Dallas. I've had service done at the Plano location for several years and have been, in general, satisfied. They charge too much but all car repair shops charge too much. I think a key here is to consistently work with the same service writer so you can build a relationship and he becomes familiar with your car and your expectations. The other dealer, Lewisville Mitsubishi, is only about 4 years old. I had one service item handled there early on and was a bit disappointed but the issue could have been caused by start up problems. I went back there when I started getting interested in a new car and was treated with courtesy and respect by the sales people.
THE NEGOTIATION
I was at Don Herring for service on the ‘96 when I had my first discussion with the sales manager. I told him that I thought I could sell the ’96 for $6,000. At the time (a month ago) Kelly Blue Book quoted $3K trade in, $4K buy from a private individual, and $6K buy from a dealer. I told him I knew I wanted too much for my car...but that's what I wanted. Their first offer was $3K trade in. After about three weeks of negotiating we agreed that I would trade in the ‘96 and they would knock $6K off the MSRP of a loaded red GT with 6 spd. They wrote it up as a $500 discount and a $5,500 trade in but the sales Mgr had earlier told me that he could give me $1,000 off MSRP on a cash deal. They actually gave me $5,000 in trade which saved me $350 on sales tax.
At the time Edmunds was stating that average purchase price was $100 over MSRP. So, I took the $5,350 trade in value as opposed to going through the hassle of selling the ‘96 for MAYBE $6,000. (The dealer sold the ‘96 in two days for $6,500.) They got a good deal, I got a good deal.
DRIVING THE 2006 ECLIPSE GT
For openers, the low RPM torque is incredible compared to what I had. The car just jumps out from under you, with only moderate throttle. Under full throttle acceleration the car feels fast under 4K RPM, but.at 4K the MIVEC kicks in and the power noticeably increases. The front tires will try to break loose but do a fair job of sticking to the road when the Traction Control is enabled. (The salesman told me that the tires will break loose with the TCL disabled but, what's the point of that?) TCL can be turned off via a switch on the dash but is automatically re-enabled the next time you start the car.
Torque-Steer is evident with full throttle acceleration, and contrary to some reviewers, I believe it is more noticeable than it was on the '96, undoubtedly due to the extra horsepower! Even when going in a straight line, get a good grip on the wheel before you nail it!
The car is air tight and feels very solid at speed. I hit 90 every week and feel very secure.
The power windows lower and raise about a half inch when the doors are opened and closed forming a good seal against the weather stripping...very Mercedes Benz-ish!
The owners manual states that 3rd gear is good to 80 MPH, 4th is good to 108 MPH and 5th is good to 130 MPH. These speeds are about 6K RPM which should be a conservative shift point as the HP peak is at 5750 and the tach is red lined at 6500. Oddly enough, the car is governor limited to 134 MPH. That number is above any speed I've ever driven but I don't care for Mitsubishi setting a limit. In 6th gear the car runs 30 MPH per 1000 RPM: 2000 RPM=60 MPH, 4000 RPM=120 MPH. The Eclipse should easily do 150+ ungoverned.
The gears are nicely spaced. At any speed between 10 MPH and over 100, there are at least three gears where the drive train will be happy!
The GT comes from the factory either as a base model (pretty nicely equipped) or with the "Premium Sport Package" and the "Accessory Package" (loaded). I considered buying the base model but really wanted the larger wheels and tires, the wheel locks and the sunroof, all buried in these two packages. I had to buy the "loaded" version to get the few extras I wanted.
But after a month of driving the car I'm beginning to appreciate the options I didn't want. The Rockford Fosgate audio sy
The dashboard with its red pointers and blue backlighting is the most attractive dash I've seen. Everything is within easy reach.
NIT PICKY STUFF
Shifting Gears
I've driven a stick for decades and shouldn't be missing shifts but, with this car, I do every day. The shift lever is nicely spring loaded to the 3-4 gate as you would expect. From 6th gear, if you push straight forward, then pull straight back, you wind up in 4th. If you push straight forward to neutral, then pull slightly left (reaching for 4th), then straight back, you wind up in 2nd.
I can't say that this is a flaw. I'll say it this way: if I pay attention while shifting I have no problem. If I'm not paying attention I may wind up in the wrong gear. Some would say that this is a simple matter of getting used to the car. I wouldn't disagree.
No Automatic Door Locks
Power locks, yes. Locks that automatically engage at 2 MPH, no.
hatchback lock
Oddly enough, the hatchback DOES automatically lock at 2 MPH. Entry is gained either by double clicking a button on the key, or by pressing a neatly concealed switch on the outside of the rear deck, the latter works only of the hatch is unlocked. There is no way to release the hatch from the cockpit, and no key lock on the hatch. Today I was at the wheel with the engine running and a friend wanted me to pop the hatch. I had no way to do that without shutting off the engine, removing the key from the ignition and double clicking!
outside mirrors
You've heard enough about this I bet. They are placed further rearward than you expect. A quick shift of the eyes doesn't cut it here. A turn of the head does. Not good, and I see no reason for it, but you can get used to it.
Power in High Gear at highway speed
At 70 MPH pressing down on the throttle in high gear doesn't produce the response I got with the ’96 turbo. The '96 in high gear at 70 MPH was revving about 3200 RPM and the turbo was ready to go. The '06 in high gear at 70 MPH is turning about 2330, well below the point where the variable timing kicks in (4K RPM). Consider 3rd and 4th gears the passing gears, not fifth.
Hidden Speedo Numbers
The way I adjust the driver’s seat and the steering wheel, the numbers on the speedo from 40 to 80 MPH are blocked from view by the top of the wheel. Mitsu offers two speedos. The US gets an analog MPH dial and a small digital KM/H readout. Others get an analog KM/H dial and a MPH digital readout. The KM/H numbers are in plain view but of no value to me. The technology is there to for the digital readout to be switched to MPH but the owner’s manual, and so far the dealer, is no help.
blind spots
Getting a good view while backing up or trying to see if traffic is clear to the right rear of the car is difficult at best.
I didn’t mean for this to be so lengthy. Maybe it can help someone.
I could go either way on the auto locks but considering that my previous car didn't have auto anything, it's no big deal for me to hit the switch. My husband's car (2001 Stratus R/T) has them and while they are handy, they can also be a pain in the butt if you make frequent stops where you have to get out.
I think the mirror, "hidden speedo", and blindspot issues have at least a little to do with the height of the person driving. For me, everything is perfect and very visible without much effort. For my husband, it was a different story. He commented on many of the same things you did. He's 6' and I'm 5'6" on a good day.
Even though there is some room for improvements, I REALLY like the car and know I'm going to enjoy driving it for a long time.
Oh...I do have a question for you....How do you think the car performs in winter weather driving? Based on some of the things I had heard, I thought I might be getting a disadvantage when compared to my previous car ('97 Sunfire) because of the bigger tires, etc. but so far I've been well impressed with the handling in the snow and ice.
With so much torque I'd suggest getting into higher gears quickly...maybe even starting from a dead stop in 2nd. I'd also expect that 62% of the cars weight on the driving wheels would help a bit. Also, don't forget that it's a front wheel drive car. When your car starts to spin on ice or snow the normal reaction is to get off the throttle; a good thing to do with a RWD car. With FWD, stepping on the gas may pull you out of a spin. This isn't what your gut reaction would be.
BTW, I forgot to close my original note by stating how happy I am with the Eclipse! In my case, the same car with an automatic would have been transportation. With the 6-spd, it's a driving experience!
1. The head room is comparitively less in RSX at the rear(I am a average 5'10" and I can't sit straight...now I know these cars are not meant for 3/4 people, but sometimes u need them).
2. GT is a V6 and is 263hp compared to 201hp of RSX-S.
3. The RSX-S has 2 common problems (front struts and the gear synchros) and I haven't read about any common problem in Eclipse.
I have one question about the transmission. Is the Sportronic Transmission comparable to the manual? Do you get the same experience? Having the Sportronic Transmission gives me both auto and manual.
Can someone update me on this? Thank you
All Mitsu needs to do is put the drivetrain from the Evo in a good-looking two-door coupe body with a decent interior -- then call it an Eclipse and price it competitively with the 350Z and RX-8.
Then they would have a winner...
The Sportronic Transmission is crap. When I took a test drive, I had to take one of these because the dealer I went to didn't have any manuals (seems many people in my area don't like them). Although you can "shift" it (meaning you tap the gear shift up or down when you want to change gear), if you don't do so when the engine thinks you should, it will override you which to me seams pointless to even have the feature in the first place. I also thought that the acceleration on the automatic paled in comparison to the manual because of the override feature. About the only advantage you might get is better gas mileage but if you know how to drive a manual correctly, that really isn't an issue.
Gotta ditto you on your grand prix comment as well. Had one of those for a while and although it was OK, nothing to get the heart racing. I refer to all GM vehicles as "General Merchandise." Yeah, they're ok cars, but nothing special in the line-up.
I did...for less than 2 miles, and took it back. In my case, the Eclipse with an auto is just transportation. With the 6 speed, it's a driving experience....
....well, it IS refreshing to hear from those who test positive for the manual transmission.........
best, ez
thanks
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Jeannine Fallon
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1st time Mitsu buyer and now a lifetime customer.
Ryan
--I forgot to say that she is looking at the GT with the V6, and that both cars would need to have an AT.
thanks all