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Unfortunately, the LC has been marginalized in the last ten years because (A) it has been luxed up to the point of no return - there is no more expensive Toyota, and (B) it is outcompeted by its own twin - the LX470, which has the Lexus cachet to go with such a high price tag, and also the air suspension etc to complete the lux package.
I think it is so cool that Toyota makes such a competent offroad truck in this day and age, but why have all that frou frou crap in it? Why not sell the version that sells in the rest of the world - plastic dash, cloth seats, manual air conditioning and all - for half the price? Well, because it would compete too much with Toyota's own Sequoia, for one.
I bet when the LC finally goes (and that will be a sad moment - this is another of Toyota's storied lines, like Celica and Corolla) the LX470 will continue on - can you say LX540?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
The REAL CRUISER dies. And is reborne on this iteration. The name, and theoretically, the heritage lives on.
The 2006 will have 2 Toyota Land Cruisers.
There will only be one for 2007.
DrFill
The new FJ is the LC, back from the dead, were you just to see it...
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
http://lc78.toyota.com.au/LC78/InDetail/GradeTypeGrid/1,3797,13,00.html
I would love to see Toyota bring it over here, but I think that's unlikely.
Bob
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I don't have the link at my fingertips, but I saw a post elsewhere with descriptions and stats for the LC 130/LX550 to debut as an '07 model. I'll try to find it and post it. The attached artist's rendition included with the article looks a lot like the new Durango.
Remember, the demise of the LC wagons was rumored when the 80 was replaced by the 100.
Not necessarily. Many "commercial-duty" trucks are in this price range. Just because it costs a whole bunch, doesn't mean it has to be a luxury yacht. Think Land Rover Defender, Hummer H1, or Unimog; not Lincoln Navigator.
Bob
Well, it is still a year away...it is a 2007 model, not an '06.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Bob
It also mentions that a TRD off-road package will feature roof-mounted flood lamps.
:shades:
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
The 4Runner is HUGE, costs more, and is limited by large overhangs front and rear from being the stock offroad champ the old one was.
So the FJ fills a niche, hence the niche-level 40K per year sales forecast from Toyota for this model.
Some people will always buy vehicles based on looks, and the FJ's looks are certainly distinctive, so 2WD models will sell - why not make them if you are Toyota? And plus it occurs to me I have never really thought about it - I suppose all the original FJ40 Land Cruisers were 4WD? There wasn't a 2WD version was there?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Rather have a Supra, doh
DrFill
rad3: I have not heard a peep about them offering an open-top version. I don't even recall if I've heard anything about a moonroof. If they did a glass-roof option like Scion tC and an increasing number of cars have, I think it would be cool. But I have no idea how rugged such a design is.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
However, given the cost and economies of scale issues that Toyota is facing we are not likely to see something far different from the Taco interior. If we are lucky, we will get something different for the rear seats. However, I am not holding my breath...
Now I see Toyota. They have the RAV4, Highlander, 4Runner, Sequoia and Land Cruiser. Now they're getting the FJ Cruiser. Wow, that's six SUVs. Guess Toyota makes more trucks, and ones with better quality and better interiors.
About the FJ, has anyone seen any interior pics? Not that it should be anything to worry about, Toyota always build high quality interiors.
As for FJ interiors, I don't think there has been anything more realistic than the concept's wild interior touches so far. The interior will be the last thing they do, I am sure, and will be finished much closer to the actual release date.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
There is a small computer generated photo of the interior that was provided by Toyota. The photo is a computer rendering, but a close representation of the production interior. It shows a near-flat dash with a clean and functional layout. White face gauges, three spoke steering wheel with aluminum trim on each spoke. The steering wheel has either cruise control or radio controls on the left spoke. The center stack has a body color surround and the doors also have a body color insert. Center console is full-length with a coverless large storage bin at the rear. The seats cannot be seen.
This is the only photo I have seen of the interior that actually looks realistic. A caption above the photo states "The interior wasn't shown at Chicago, but we're told it will be close to the rendering below, color-keyed and utilitarian."
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/suvs/0505_toyota_fj_cruiser/index.html
They also have a few nice desktop backgrounds of the FJ
http://automobilemag.com/photo_gallery/0505_toyota_fj/
Also, any word on when the interior will be officially unveiled?
4x4review.com has the most comprehesive int/ext pics of the FJC yet, all in blue however.
Also read in a rag that there will be three color options from the manufacturer based upon the original FJ 40s, blue, tan and I think yellow?
sam
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Toyota has vehicles that covers the spectrum, but does not offer a serious, but fun, off-road vehicle. Give us something closer to the original FJ40. Give us something that would compete with a Wrangler Rubicon. Short wheelbase, front/rear lockers, good clearance, good approach/departure angles. Something with a removable top.
I was really hoping to buy another Toyota (FJ40) soon, but will lean towards the Wrangler for it's off-road capability and soft-top.
I am sure the offroad ability will be there in spades, certainly enough to go head to head with a stock Wrangler Rubicon. But it sounds like what you really want is a soft top, and in that case Jeep is pretty much where it's at.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
1. Will the interior look as cool as the concept's, with the springs in the seats and metal jeep look inside?
2. What are the colors? I know they will INCLUDE the original colors but wil Toyota offer any others?
3. When can I officially order one?
Any responses would be very much appreciated, even if these questions can not be answered as of now.
Thanks guys,
A enthusiastic young buyer
1. Interior is not yet finalized, but I bet they will stick to the themes of the concept, if not every detail.
2. I am sure Toyota will offer more than the three colors that have been announced to match the original. But I don't think there will be a rainbow of stock colors, or anything.
3. Once it appears in finalized form at a show, you should be able to start laying down deposits.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Based on some of the forums on the internet, some dealers are starting to accept deposits
I say ditch the current TLC (keep the Lexus LX), and return the "Land Cruiser" name to a truck (like the FJ Cruiser) that deserves it
It is more attractive to my eye than the H2, almost the same length, much nicer interior and ride and $25,000 cheaper than the H2. The H3 will be about 10 inches longer than the FJ Cruiser. Hopefully the competition will create lower prices for us for either vehicle.
Of course we know that the Toyota will blow away the GM Hummer3 in quality and resale but the Hummer is now marketing itself as a luxury vehicle and will offer a 50,000 mile warranty.
We have some great exciting choices and these are two compelling vehicles for 2006. I understand the FJ will be labeled a 2007. Both should be extremely competent off road.
I just purchased a new suv but I want my girlfriend to buy the new FJ. She has a boringly competent Honda CRV.
Cheers
I'd much rather have a Supra (it was either this or a $30k Supra-successor), but at least this has a stick and a strong V6.
Bpraxis
Well, if you love 5000 lbs. SUV's with 5-cylinder engines, you'll LOVE the H3!
DrFill
You mean the price ($21-25k) or the options I spoke of (33" tires & 11" clearance)?
I'd also shrink that huge B-pillar--that's a parking lot fender-bender waiting to happen!