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If it does become something, I'm quite confident we will hear about it (for some reason you would like for this to happen). However, for now let's stick with what is (the facts, not BS). You had a bad break with your windshield (sorry for the pun). Toyota has agreed to pay for the repairs (yes with "Good Faith" funds). Seems pretty simple to me. If wish to continue bashing Toyota for your unfortunatate incident, that no one seems to have experienced, go ahead. I have better things to do. The weather is great and I'm going to have a beer. Good luck in your one man quest, whatever it is.
It's pretty obvious that you've got some connection here either with Toyota or something like it or associated with it. Listen..the last time I checked, I bought the car because I liked it. Wait, actually I've posted before that I love the car! My family loves it and I think it was a great investment. I found this website because I thought it would help me.. or at least post on the expereinces I have been having. I have not bashed Toyota on any of these posts... I've simply stated the facts, which is what your representatives have either told me or questioned me about; which all have been recorded (ya know, for training purposes).If you've got a problem with the information supplied and then I've posted here, take it up with your staff, not me.
I love my 2006 RAV4 and if your rear window defect becomes an overwhelming safety issue for you, I guess then we may meet one another during the NHTSA public hearing about it. I'll make sure I look for the Toyota rep with the half empty beer in hand.
I am happy to hear that you will not be posting any more on this subject. Please go handle a couple customer service calls during your down time, or happy hour.. or both.. By the way... thanks for wishing me luck on my one woman quest...
Amy
As a rule the problem turns out to be that the glass is too big. In any case, I am happy to hear that both of you will be returning to more civil discourse and remaining on topic rather than on each other.
tidester, host
Peter
If possible, try swapping vehicles and listening.
tidester, host
'02 Explorer (I always sell private, never trade in), and I
figured if gas prices shot up, I'd be stuck with it. This
way, the $$$ for the Explorer paid for about half of the Rav4.
Have you found out anything "new & exiting" being offered on
the '07's? I know you're waiting till December or so, right?
I need replacemnt car in December so will go talk to dealers again in Sept I guess when details of 2007 should be out. I do believe sales are slowing a little just now but that might just be the summer season. My local dealer has 17 sitting there and that is a lot compared to say May.
I am getting mine in all chrome so there are no paint chips and with the prison truck wire in the windows to help against glass breakage. Also gonna try to get the one speed tranny so there is no shift confusion. I will also need the V10 to make up for the 4 speeds missing from the gearbox I guess.
Enjoy your RAV4, some people are taking this RAV stuff a little to serious!
won't you have to start all over again...pricewise? You're
not thinking of a leftover...or are you?
Nothing dramatic enough for me to need to wait for, so I went ahead and ordered a 2006 V6. I'm hoping that these driveability issues are somewhat isolated - there are plenty of people on other forums who seem to have no complaints. The V6 model I test drove didn't suffer from any issues apart from the sensitive throttle.
I made no insults. Do you take it personally because I don't like the rear door design? :confuse:
If you don't like my opinion about the rear door, you need to get over it.
I like Edmunds because I like cars and I've learned alot about them here. Not everyone will have the same likes and dislikes. Its all subjective.
Thats why I'm strongly considering a 2007 CR-V. :P
One of those guys on the RAV4 line in Japan could always have a bad Monday thinking about those North Korean missles flying over and forget to put something in the car correctly.
-juice
I heard 2007 RAV4 comes with standard side airbags (which you can't get as an option in Canada except for the top of the line model! Grr!).
A local boating store or REI may be able to help too.
If true, what the dowside to purchasing there?
You guys have it a lot better down there...
-juice
Amy
http://www.donlen.com/buildstart_toyota.asp
One dealer told me that if it is not on a boat out of Japan by early august it wiil be a 2007.
Lots of RAV4 info and discussion on the net.
On other sites the transmission problem seems to apply to both but more so in the I4. It is really hard to tell how wide spread it is but it since I am sure the forums represnt only a small part of al RAV4 owners. I get the impression it is not RAV4 unique. By the way if you read todays Wall St. Journal the president of Toyota held a press conference and apologized for Toyota recalls and problems. I am not a Toyota owner but they do seem to work on making things right even if slowly.
I am waiting to buy a 2007 also but do not need it till December so I will get serious in September. I imagine if you realy want one early on you could talk to a dealer about it anytime. Talk to dealer by phone or online. They are not as bad as some people make them out to be but it is a mixed thing. My local dealer has been very good. They next dealer down the road has been a real baloney artist.
By the way, my dealer in NY had 16 2006s today, four V6s so the cars are out there.
For Toyota, however, quality and safety are the cornerstones of its entire global operations, and despite denials of breaking any rules, Toyota went out of its way to show contrition for the recalls at its news conference in Tokyo. At the same time, Toyota boasted of no new products or expansion plans, as has become common at its recent media events. The company gave no press materials to the media.
Toyota's senior management team even shunned the open-collar, short-sleeved shirts the company has adopted for summer to help cope with Japan's sticky weather, instead appearing in dark suits.
The message behind the funereal atmosphere was clear: "I take this seriously and see it as a crisis," Mr. Watanabe said. He then bowed deeply in front of the cameras, adding, "I want to apologize deeply for the troubles we have caused."
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You can make a gazillion mechanical anythings and not have problems somewhere in the process. Seems to me that Toyota has stepped up to the plate. If you're looking for perfection, you won't find it. Nothing has exploded or caught on fire, no parts have fallen off.
Hey you judge the info and make your choice!
I've owned a V6 Limited since April 8th and haven't had one single problem. The car is solid, runs great, I'm averaging 24.9 mpg ... no Gremlins to be found. I really think much is being made over a few isolated incidents.
Since you really cannot "order" a RAV4, a dealer trade might be the only way you get what you want even with 2007.
The prices are slowly coming down by the way, Fitzmall is showing several Limited at $100 to $300 under invoice.
I know you can't tow with it, but when there is war with Iran you'll need the best mileage you can. Unless you have a lot of disposable income.
Last Thursday, the rear passenger window of my 2006 RAV4 shattered for no apparent reason. I was at a stop sign when the driver side rear passenger window 'imploded' with a loud pop, as if it were under great pressure. Luckily, I had just dropped off my toddler at daycare--a pile of glass chips shot over to her side.
A large SUV was stopped next to me at the time. The other driver witnessed the event and helped me rule out any external causes, such as a rock or (god forbid) bullet. The outside temp was 65 degrees, driver side window down about an inch, inside fan on '2'...normal driving conditions.
At the dealer, the service manager told me that he was sure it wouldn't be covered by warranty, but that it was up to Toyota. It was a short call: 'yeah, I got a customer with a rear passenger window that he says just imploded....uh huh...I see...OK then.' He hung up and said 'I was way off...Toyota will will fully cover the replacement.' In fact, they'll likely replace both rear passenger windows.
Th part is on nationwide critical backorder, so I'm stuck with a (complimentary) fleet car for two or more weeks.
Is this a defect or a fluke? No idea, but I've read three other identical accounts for this year's model on the web, so its definitely a known issue.
I'm wondering whether the power window's lifting mechanism is to blame. What's the possibility that the lifting device pushes the glass against the seal with too much force, creating the conditions for the glass to fail?
Thanks
They can be difficult to find. I got a V6 LTD 4x4 w/3rd row, but I had to go to Maryland to get it. darcars.com if it helps.
Macneil has 2 choices, dark and light tint in-channel, mine are the light tint.
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