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2006 Toyota RAV4



  • Got front brakes changed at 45K and now back for rear at 60K. Considering I'm rough on brakes and from what I've read so far, I think I'm doing well!
  • I have a 2006 Rav4 Sport Edition 4WD bought brand new that I have had problems with since I got it. First I had to have the radio replaced 4 times in 3 months due to electrical issues (starting when I had the car 1 month) then I had to have the transmission reprogrammed due to an electrical issue at 5 months. I was good until I had the car a little over 1 1/2 years and 27,000 miles when I had to replace my first set of brakes (December 2007), my brake pads (front and back) were down to metal and the rotors needed to be replaced. In December 2008 at roughly 44,000 miles I had to bring it in again b/c of the front brakes and again I was metal on metal. In August 2009 at 53,000 miles I brought it in for an oil change and found out my waterpump was gone and I had to get it replaced. Now in October 2009 I had to bring it in yet again for the brakes and at 58,000 miles, I was at 95% wear on the pads (front and back this time). I spoke to the Service Manager at my local dealership and was told that my brakes were not a problem and it is normal to change them ever 14,000 miles, I also spoke with the Toyota Regional Service Manager and was told the same thing. I realize I do A LOT of driving but this model has horrible brake wear. I had a 2001 RAV4 before this and only changed my brakes every 30 - 35,000 miles.
  • mark19mark19 Posts: 123
    you need to stop buying the Toyota stock pads, that's the problem! After three times and you're only getting 14,000 miles out of them? That is horrible, but be honest how hard are you braking? Slamming on the brakes 10 feet before you have to stop? I am NOT defending Toyota, as I've seen their pads go in about 28-30k miles. Remember your newer RAV4 is heavier than the 2001 model. But ever think that Toyota made a pad like this so that you'd keep giving them your money? I say STOP! time for another pad!

    I would suggest they are a performance shop in california, they make a high performance street pad made of carbon-kevlar, last car I had their pads on they lasted me 50,000 miles and this was not at a cost of performance! R4-S is the name of the pad. They make other pads, but they're for racing and wouldn't work on normal street driving. They are about $90 for the fronts and $80 for the rears. But.. They are much better performance and last MUCH longer! The stock pads from Toyota were always "mushy" and *yawn inducing* in performance. So give the Porterfield a try, I think you'll like them. I know I do :shades:
  • Thank you for the suggestion! I hope to not have the vehicle for more than the next 5k miles though (too much money sunk into a 3 1/2 year old vehicle). This vehicle has been dissapointing to me all the way aroud from gas milage (20MPG Highway - 18MPG City) to mechanical issues that Toyota doesn't want to address. I also have a 2006 Solara that is going to need it's 1st brake change soon so I will try the brakes you suggested :shades: .
  • mark19mark19 Posts: 123
    you're welcome for the suggestion! glad to help!

    One thing I did forget was that with the porterfield brakes I just received, they had put an adhesive-type (stick-on) shim on the back of the brake pad for mine. What happened was that the brakes heated up and began to bake that stick-on shim off to the point it was smelling like BBQ and smoking too! ouch. I since removed the stick on shim and replaced it with the factory shims (got them from the dealer) along with some brake grease (white sticky stuff from toyota) and no more issues. I think porterfield wanted to give people shims but this shim didn't work. So if they come with stick on shims remove them, replace with the factory metal shims.

    I still say they're great pads, just a slight modification is what I needed. Just helping you when you do order them up. :)

    Also- I don't blame you for dumping the rav4. The treatment toyota has given me as well I don't plan on looking to them for my next vehicle.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    you need to find out which of "your" drivers are driving along with their left foot resting lightly on the brake pedal.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    "..great pads, just a slight modification...needed..."

    Or you need to find out who is riding the brakes.
  • mark19mark19 Posts: 123
    I'm talking about a modifcation to the stick-on shim that Porterfield added which doesn't need to be there and to be replaced with the factory/stock shim instead. The stick-on shim was incompatible with the characteristics of the carbon-kevlar material. Remove it, replace with the factory shims (or get new from the dealer) and all is well. Even Porterfield agreed that they're not going to be adding it on future pads after I reported the issue.

    So I'm not sure what you're talking about in your post, riding the brakes? Had nothing to do with the shim that was incompatible.
  • I'm really surprised with this post. I have a 2006 Rav and other than the radio problems that have been well documented, not a single problem. Brakes still going strong at a little over 30,000 miles. Tires, the same. Obviously not driven as much as post above but still surprised at the problems noted. I remember a past Honda Accord i had which was doing great on brakes till my teenage son's started driving. Braking to quick stops will do that for sure. Anyway, probably keep this Rav for several more years (paid off now). Thinking of getting a 2010 Camry Hybrid to replace our 03 TL. But money only obstacle.
  • I purchased two Michelin tires for my RAV4 with idential speed rating to the original equipment on my vehicle. I think it was 100H. When it came time to replace the next two tires, they could not get the same tires. Since I could not wait several weeks for new tires, I replaced them with 99S tires made by Michelin. They put these on the front and said I could not rotate my tires anymore. I notice no handling problems with the car. I have spent about $200 a tires so I don't want to swap these out. Does anyone know if the tire dealer gave me some bad advice?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Well, the 99 refers to the load rating, though it's so close it probably won't make much difference.

    As for the S vs. H speed rating, that is mostly a measure of resistance to heat at sustained high speeds. Again, probably won't matter much unless you take it to the salt flats at Bonneville for a land speed record (doubtful).

    Do this, though - make sure the tire pressure is never low. The 99S tire is less resistance to heat and rated for smaller loads, so at the very minimum make sure that pressure is always, always good.
  • I have a 2006 Rav4 Limited 4 cyl. I did replace brakes at about 38,000 and the only other repair was a leaking water pump at about 60,000. I am now at 78,000 and figure I will need brakes sometime soon since I tend to sit in traffic. Other than changing fluids and tires once, that's it. I do only use the Toyota dealer and I tell them what maintenance I want, I don't want to be sold a package of goods. This is now my 6th Toyota and it ranks high in reliability for me. My Highlander was great, but had some rattles that were never resolved. My 4Runner had an electrical problem that shorted out lights, but a complaint to Toyota in California netted a 7 year bumper to bumper warranty that I didn't have to use.
  • Curious what tires you replaced originals with? And more importantly how they ride, etc etc. I have original Geolanders. Mine's an 06 as well, but only a little over 30,000 miles so still no problems, brakes, tires etc. but at some point i may opt for new tires (maybe before next summer).....thanks. And i too use only dealer and car's been great (except the $#&*$# radio which is the 3rd one (and so far hopefully the last - 1.5 years now.).
  • I don't ride the brakes, and I drive pretty gently because I have clients in the car very frequently. When I quizzed the service manager, he said it was because the RAV4 was built using the Corolla platform and its extra weight meant that the brakes were under more stress. But I thought that the 2006 RAV4 on had their own, newer platform.
    Anyway, a couple months after the brake job, the car started rattling at stop lights, so far the mechanic hasn't found the problem, but it is irritating as all get out. Between those issues and the intermittent low tire pressure light that comes on for no reason, probably my last Toyota. 33,000 miles and the car looks great, but drives like a geriatric geezer.
  • mark19mark19 Posts: 123
    The service manager is lying to you. Typical toyota dealer service lies. They make stuff up as they go along.

    The brake pads are cheap quality that's why they're not lasting. Toyota obviously saved money by putting on a cheaper quality pad that wouldn't last as long. You're not alone in short life on the brake pads. I don't blame you for not wanting to keep the car. If you do keep it and still need brake pads. You should get a longer lasting pad. Porterfield R4-S pads come to mind. Performance and longevity.

    Plus if they cannot fix the problem of the rattling in 3 times before your warranty is gone, you can claim lemon law! :lemon:
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    Brake pad HIGH frictional content, GREAT braking ability......SHORT PAD LIFE.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    rattling in 3 times before your warranty is gone, you can claim lemon law!

    Nope - in most states it's only for the first year, much shorter than most warranties.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    There's also usually a trade-off in noise.

    I have 27k on my Sienna's brake pads and they still look brand new, but I tend to coast to red lights to save gas.
  • i too had to replace my brakes at 29,000. i am very easy on brakes and alot of those miles were road miles. also just replaced my water pump at 36,000. thank goodness that was covered by warranty as the bill was quite high. i dont think i have had any vehicle with these problems this early in the mileage count. thought i was getting a better vehicle when i bought a toyota.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It may simply be the weight of the vehicle. More mass (than you're used to perhaps?) means more energy to stop.
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