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Saab 9-3 SportCombi



  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    I know you are right Dave I really need to take another look. I am so confused! :confuse: Over the years I have had many cars. My first car was new and bought by my folks. I then had many used cars before I got a new car again. Every new car I had was bought and picked out by my folks, ex husband or my husband I am married to now. This is the first car that I have had the opportunity to research and pick out myself with no outside help from family. It is driving me NUTS!!!!! I thought the Saab was everything I wanted and I still do except I don't like how small it feels compared to the Maxx. The Maxx has nothing on it and I am afraid it won't handle good which is really important to me. I hate the price the dealer gave me on the Saab it was way off what I thought it would be.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    is to drive both the Malibu Maxx and the 9-3 SportCombi back to back, one right after the other on the same day.

    If you don't like the Saab dealer you'r working with now, find a different one. If that's the only one in your area, buy your Saab in a different area. Just take your test drive down at the local dealership and do some poking around Edmunds.

    Good luck, and Have Fun!
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Don't feeb bad gmroy. When i was car shopping last time i took the better part of a year! I drove a bunch of car dealers nuts going back over and over again. I ended up buying a BMW and ended up glad i did, so i'm happy i took all that time. I'm also glad the BMW has been a tank, 109K mikes and just a few small cheap repairs, because i'd hate to go through the shopping process again! I'd probably waste six months shopping again!

  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Thats a very good idea jc if I drive them back to back it doesn't give me time in between to forget how one or the other felt to drive. I will do that and I also will check out the other dealer I talked to a while back that was suppose to call me when the 9.3 came in and I think it has by now and he never called but I'll give him a try any way. I have poked around every site you can name!LOL I read a 100 different things on both cars so who do you believe?LOL
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Thanks for making me feel better Dave! I thought I was taking too long in choosing.LOL I guess I got some time yet huh?LOL I think I'm driving every one nuts!LOL You and jc are the only ones that have been patient and understanding not to mention very very helpful. Thanks! I went to bed crying the other night. My husband said would you relax it's just a car! I said ya but you don't understand! I'm old and he is about to retire this might be my last car I ever get I want it to be a good one that I really love driving. So ya it might be just a car to him but to me it's everything and I want it to be right.
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Darn--you definitely shouldn't cry over a car, gmroy! Your husband is right, it's just a car. You should repeat to youself:

    It's just a silly car.
    If i hate it i can trade it for another one.

    The key thing is, get what you like, because you need to be happy with it. I think the 9-3 is a cool car but that doesn't mean it's right for you. Because i think it's neat i encouraged you to try it again, but maybe i should keep my big fat mouth shut.

    My grandmother through marriage just traded her '91 caddy for a 2 years old one, and i would have encouraged her to buy something else, not just because i don't like the caddy that much but because i think it's not the right car for her, and i also think she got ripped off by the dealer. But, she didn't ask me, and she's the one who has to drive it everyday, and she's happy with her car, so why should i make her unhappy?

    Maybe whatever you do you should see if you can get it on a lease or a "smartbuy". This way you can tell yourself "if i realize i made a mistake, i can back out in three years" and if you like it you can buy it out at the end just as if you were financing. Might help you sleep better, just to think you have a way out. Of course, this won't work if you were planning on buying cash.

    Just an idea from one over-shopper to another. As i said, i want my car to keep me happy for a few more years so i don't have to go through this again. If i had to buy today, i'd try to make myself look at just a bmw 330i, a 9-3 aero, and a volvo s60R.
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    NO don't keep your big mouth shut you have good ideas and oppions that I use! The thing is I know once I get it my husband will make me drive the wheels off of it before I trade it in. I'm not sure leasing would be a good idea because I put a lot of mile on a year and it would end up being a fortune before I was done with it. I'm with Grandma I love those big ol caddy's but they are bad in snow so for me it just don't work. It's really a blessing to have people like you to chat with because you do have good ideas that I would never think of in a million years. I'll try repeating "It's just a silly car" but it won't help I'm just a wreck over this thing!LOL
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    If you have to drive it for a loooong time, i understand the increased angst. :)

    I imagine the saab will cost somewhat more than the malibu to service as it gets older, though all cars are most costly nowadays than they used to be. You can get a 7 year 100K warranty on either, probably worth thinking about if only for peace of mind.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    cry over a car- like your husband said- its just a car, and if you don't like it, trade it.

    I typically spend about 5-6 months researching soft data (online reviews, message boards, etc) and about 2 weeks test driving. But that's just me.

    If I were you, I'd try the new BMW 3-Series Sportwagons, the A4 Avant, 9-3 SportCombi, and Volvo V70. Life's short. Buy something you like driving. Don't buy a car just because you can get a discount- A bad car with a discount is still a bad car.

    A good car with no discount is still a good car.

    A good car with a discount would be the best possible situation :) (like my Infiniti)

    Winter break is a great time to do some back to back driving. I'd pick out a day, and set up various appointments like this:
    8AM- BMW dealer
    10AM- Saab dealer
    1PM- Volvo Dealer
    3PM- Audi dealer
    5PM- Chevy dealer
    7PM- Final test drive of the Saab to compare it wit the Chevy
  • dhanleydhanley Posts: 1,531
    Those are some great cars yu mentioned, but i think GMROY wants a GM car specifically, because they're paying the bills.

    Sounds like a good reason to me! :)

  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Well then she's got a simple schedule.
    8AM- Saab dealer
    10AM- Chevy dealer
    2PM- Saab dealer
    4PM- Chevy Dealer

    I'd set aside a day to just shop shop shop and drive sales people crazy.
  • Don't be a fool!(LOL)Doesn't always work does it? I too am a woman named Sue who is also looking for a new car. I have purchased over 30 since 1990 ranging from a BMW M to a Miata to an Audi A6 to a Honda Civic. My salemen know me and will not prejudge. I know cars well in and out and probably know how to drive better than most. I do SCCA Solo. I may go into a dealership looking for a staid minivan and come out with a hot convertible or vice-versa. Last year I bought two cars on the same day, mind you I had not decided on the type (SUV, sedan ,sportscar etc.)But since my salesman was not a wus(SP?) he make two very quick and easy sales. I hope you are not from the Grand Rapids SAAB dealer, because I can easily choose to buy something else. I drove the 9.3 Sport Combi this week and it was great, small but great. Keep and open mind and I will open my wallet. Sue
  • If the Saab dealer is smart, he'll give her a loaner car as close to what she wants as possible for the entire day. It would probably be a sedan instead of wagon but they handle the same in my experience.

    I once had a dealer who was a family friend loan me a used Honda Prelude for a week while I shopped for other cars. I bought the Prelude at the end of the week.

    If she is driving a Saab to and from other dealers, she’ll probably buy the Saab.
  • gmroygmroy Posts: 30
    Ya jc and Dave I pretty much have to stick to the GM products. My daughter said the other day Mom you would look hot in a Dodge Charger so I asked my husband if I could go down and test drive one. You hould of seen the look on his face!LOL For no longer being loyal to GM you could of fooled me! I like all the cars on my first schedule you made me and I would love to drive them but like Dave said what good would it do if I can't have one. But the 2nd schedule I plan on giving a try maybe sat if the roads are good and the other dealer has the combi in yet. And ya It would be neat if they would give me a combi to use for the weekend so I can really tell if I like it or not thats a great idea! All dealers should do that so a person can really get the feel of the car.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    I certainly hope that response wasn't after reading my follow-up post.I specifically addressed the fact that I never treat women condescendingly or feel I have to "dumb"things down to "their level".An educated knowledgeable customer regardless of gender is my best customer.This particular woman has made numerous statements in her posts that would lead me to believe that she wants to be treated in exactly the manner I refer to above,as inherently less capable of making an informed decision than a man and thats unfortunate.In todays market place professional women command and deserve respectful treatment and I am always mindful of that.I admit to being flippant in respect to this womans expressed needs,but in all honesty,I think she takes some enjoyment in presenting herself as a "Ditz"
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    Maybe you should ask the dealer for their loaner, as somebody else said (I forget your username) and then just drive it all around town all weekend.

    Its a nice way to get a great feel for the car.

    I wonder how many SportCombis will end up as loaners. None?
  • There are so few SportCombi's right now that I doubt any have been made into loaners yet.

    Driving a 9-3 Sedan feels exactly the same (we drove both). As long as you don't look behind you, you won't know the difference.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    You make a good point...given the minimal difference in size any impressions you gain from driving the 9-3 sedan should be accurate in respect to the Sport-combi. The only exception being a slight difference in perfomance due to the Sport-combi having a higher G.V.W..In respect to loaners,Dealers are being encouraged to put their first Sport-combi's into a factory sponsored Demonstrator program.They are not available for sale for 4 mos.after which they will have a $2,000 rebate.This would be a vehicle any dealer should be able to offer for an overnight extended test drive.
  • smu1976smu1976 Posts: 110
    Get a 9-2 for a loaner. If someone is buying this thing for anything near the sticker of 32K, its crazy.
    Saab needs to get their MSRP's down and stop discounting so heavy. Most people compare stickers and think the discounts are similar. Audi, BMW, MB and surely Lexus, Acura don't come off sticker too much but have similar price points with Saab @ MSRP. But Saab will discount heavy, why do they do this? Get closer to their selling price and they move some cars in this country. I have had four Saabs and I don't put them up there with BMW, MB or Audi (maybe Volvo). But I don't pay what those car cost.
    I would also say that Saab had the worse resale value there is of all these models. Saab needs to sell their enginering, perfomance (finally some of this is here), at a fair price (near luxury, not luxury). Just my thoughts.
    A 9-5 sticker for 45K is wrong, same as a 9-2 for 32K? Sticker shock, hell people run from the dealers and Internet with these stupid MSRP's.
  • saablcpsaablcp Posts: 195
    YO! Did you bother to read ANY of the posts on the Saab sites regarding Saabs revamped pricing structure? Saab core product 9-3 and 9-5's ALL reduced in price for '06 by $3-4K. on average.A well equipped '06 9-5 sedan with Auto.Trans.and 260H.P.Turbo lists out at $36,170!!and there is nothing you can add to the car to get it above a list of $42,800(incl.Navigation,ventilated seats,metallic paint,visibility pkg.and sport pkg.)So.. your thinking is correct...but Saab has already taken those steps.
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