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Have been a Toyota owner for the last 15 years with much satisfaction, but find they have become very independent and won't budge on the price, hence I'm looking forward to taking the new Azera for a test drive, the specs and warranties look great. Hope the price is right, I'll buy for sure if it lives up to my expectations.... I keep my cars a long time so not worried about re-sale value. From all reports I think the big Japanese makers will take notice. Of course only time will tell.
Most auto makers usually make a big splash about a new entry but apparently Hyundai has embarked on a stealth strategy. What is the estimated MPG on this baby is it expected to be better than the Avalon? If so, it should be highlighted as a desirable feature. Anyways, I am tired of waiting and I am afraid that I am becoming indifferent as there is nothing to highten my anticipation.
lions1
I own a 2004 Amanti and love it. So, depending on the styling cues of the next generation Amanti which will be based on the Azera/Grandeur, I would not hesitate to be a Azera owner -if it ends up being the better looking one of the two.
I guess the bottom line of what I'm saying is -it will sell.
Pete
I think that the Elantra and the Sonata are very competitive at their price points. However, when you start getting close to the $30K range, there are just too many good cars out there.
The other thing that would concern me, is what will the $30K Azera be worth when the owner tries to trade it in after 2 years and 36K miles versus other cars in the market that retail for around the same price.
Regarding the Amanti - Of the folks I know that have them, they all seemed to have paid in the low $20s for them. My point is that if the Azera is priced close to $30K, and they don't intend to discount it heavily, how well will it sell?
I don't think I'd let an issue with a car stereo stop me from buying the Kia or Hyundai or Scion or Toyota of my choice. Not even. But to each his own. It is true, busting into an integrated dash to put your stereo system of choice in is not a pretty forethought. Downright gritty to ponder...so I guess I see somebody's point...almost. I guess I'd think differently if I was in the i-Pod world right now. It would seem that there's always something that could be done to get the sound you want without gettting too drastic, an electronic plug-in here or a tweak to something else somewhere else. Drivetrains and bodystyles and things like that top issues with the stereo when I'm doing my car shopping, eh?
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
I am not sure I want to buy with 3.8 Lit engine.As per motor tend the the expected mpg is 26.5 miles Hwy.
If they offer with 3.5 lit engine of sonata probably I will.
Not me - I just question how well a close to $30K Hyundai would sell without them. Hey, let's face it - public perception carries a lot of weight in the car world. When you approach the $30K price on cars, there are a lot of good new cars out there to choose from. $30K is also CPO Lexus / Infiniti / Acura / BMW territory as well. Ask the average middle management guy on the street (that may not know a lot about cars) if he would rather spend $30K on a slightly used CPO Lexus, or a brand new Hyundai, and see what he says. Now get that same guy to actually go and look at an Azera, and he may change his answer. Hyundai just needs to do something to encourage this type of consumer to actually add the Azera to their shopping list, and take the time to go look at one.
I agree with you 100% with the rest of what you are saying. Hyundai/Kia are putting out some nice vehicles. My wife has an '02 Elantra with almost 70K miles on it. Car has been great - only a couple of minor warranty issues. Even when it had 50K miles on it, we had several friends ride in it and comment that it was nicer than some of the other competitor's cars (Civic, Corolla, etc...) that they had owned or driven. You and I - being car lovers (I assume) already know this. The challenge for Hyundai is getting the general public to recognize it as well. The Sonata was a huge step in this direction, but I truly question whether they are in a position to sell a close to $30K Hyundai at this point in the game without the rebates. But, if they do offer rebates, that is great for people like you and me that already recognize they put out great cars with a good warranty.
Heck, my wife and I paid $17,045 for our 2001 Kia Sportage back on September 29, 2001. I felt like I was getting value for my money then and now I feel even more like I have received value for my money. Not only value but great looks and solid performance. The Sportage 4x4 towed 1,000 pounds of our stuff from Washington state to Missouri (over the Cascade and Rocky mountains) when we moved to the Midwest in 2003. It performed flawlessly. These are tough rigs, these Sportage's!
1racefan, no, I know what you're talking about. I just feel (along with gobs of other American people now) that Hyundai's and Kia's have arrived fully to the States, with gobs of value and character. They will start holding their value soon, IMO, and I feel that that time has come.
The new 2006 Hyundai Azera will be interesting to watch, to see how people like them and if they are willing to pay list price for them. Your comparo's above are valid, the Azera for $30,000, or near it, will cause some American noggins to waggle a tad, but it shouldn't. I have a strong feeling that that Azera in the window will be worth every penny. And then some.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
As far as advertising, Hyundai just like every other business, wants to sell what they have today. Why get people looking for something that they can't get yet. Instead bring them into the showrooms with the new Sonata, and wait until you can sell an Azera and make a profit off of it before dumping allotted advertisement dollars.
Lesson #1 in sales is the old acronym, S.W.A.T., Sell What's Available Today.
1. Shortage- Grandeurs have been selling like pancakes in Korea. Since every single Azera/Grandeur will be built in a single plant, it will be tough to keep up
with all the demand (I hear there's 2~3 months wait in Korea)
2. Strike- As many of you know, there was a huge strike during September at
Hyundai/Kia plants. I think it lasted for quite a while (was it 2 weeks?). That's
surely going to affect any plan for new model introduction in the US. :lemon:
I presently own a 1999 Lincoln Continental that has close to 100,000 miles and have been looking to buy a new car soon to replace it. I have been reading about the new Azera and believe this might be what I am looking for. I also have been checking out the Hyundai dealers and have found out that I know more about the Azera than they do. Hope that they get them to the showroom soon so that I can make a decision as my Lincoln will soon be due for some major repairs. I will keep checking this forum to get the latest updates.
Keep Me Informed
Thanks
The Azera should be out by the end of this year tops. I heard October but it doesnt seem like the car is being released now.
If you get sick of waiting for the Azera, or you don't like it try a 300C, Lucerne, Avalon or wait for the Ford 500 with the 3.5L.
Check the site below.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200510/kt2005101119485411900.htm
I heard from Korean friends that there are many defects in the IMS of Korean version of Azera (3.3). In addition, it has abnormal engine sound. :lemon:
``To achieve the best quality with no defects, we’ve delayed exports to the U.S. from the originally scheduled October date to the year’s end,’’ a company official said.
I'm korean so, I can get some photo from korean website
http://imagesearch.naver.com/search.naver?where=dt_iphoto&query=%B1%D7%B7%A3%C1%AE&c=2&qt=- df&sort=0&fr_res=0&to_res=0
http://imagesearch.naver.com/search.naver?where=dt_iphoto&query=%B1%D7%B7%A3%C1%AE&c=8&qt=- df&sort=0&fr_res=0&to_res=0
exactly, I can buy azera in korea now and price in korea is arround 26K.(standard)
i think azera has a nice body as much as other sedan
when you go on that site, you'll see (image board up)on the left side of the site.
click on that and go to page 2. click on what it says azera 3.8.
My full First Drive review will go live on www.insideline.com Monday for those who are interested in the details.
Hyundai really is on a roll these days, with the Tucson, Sonata, and the upcoming Accent, Elantra and Santa Fe.
Its cars seem to be winning over buyers like wildfire.
Oh, wouldn't it be a great time to be a Hyundai dealer right now?
baxterjohn oct 24,2005
For some reason I am yet to see the new Sonata on the Boston roads, so let's hope that the Azera is not so rare.
Anticipating my first text drive soon.
http://www.prnewswire.com/mnr/hyundai/22976/
Full-size ex. Toyota Avalon, Chrysler 300, and Ford Five-Hundred
or
Near-luxury ex. Lexus ES 330, BMW 3 Series, Acura TL, and Infini G35
or
Luxury ex. Mercedes E-320, BMW 5 Series, Acura RL, and the Infini M35
No way is it close to the TL, G35 and 3 Series. They are all small sport sedans which the Azera is not.
And it's not close to the RL, 5 Series, E350, M35 because it doesn't have the brand name, doesn't have the sportiness, and it's way cheaper.
FYI - in 2008 or so Hyundai will introduce a RWD sport sedan to compete with the above mentioned cars.
That's a blue collar, old and fat man class, except for the 300. I think the Azera should try to compete in the M-35 and Volvo S-80 class and shy away from the Avalon comparison.
One reason for getting the Kia Amanti would be if it is $6000 to $10000 lower in price than the Azera. Which is probably about where it will need to be to compete for shoppers looking for a similar sized front wheel drive car. $18000 for an Amanti and $26000 for the Azera after all incentives sounds about right for November and December this year.
Can you say rebates?