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I received an email from Hyundai to test drive an Azera for a $50 gift certificate at amazon.com. I guess they are not aware I OWN an Azera.
Anyway, some of you know the very bad experiences I had at three of four Hyundai dealers near me. I had to walk out in disgust. The fourth one was great.
Anyway, I went back to one of the "bad" dealers because they are close to have them sign the form and the manager recognized me from our awful meeting back in April. He was still very bitter.
Me: Hi, I was here back in April and test drove an Azera. I got this email form from Hyundai for test drive gift certificate and need it to be filled out.
Manager: (snatches the form and looks at it. It was obvious he was unaware of the promotion -- as usual. He takes out his pen and makes a big scribble on the signature line and hands it back to me) Here, you can fill out the rest.
Me: A . . . I need the "dealer code" for this line (pointing).
Manager: Well, I don't know it. (Turns around and talks to a sales rep)
Me: (I walk over to the counter and talk to the secretary) Do you know the dealer code for this dealership?
Receptionist: Sure, it's UT007
Me: Thanks. (I turn back to the manager. You know I bought an Azera. It's a very nice car.
Manager: (angrily) Well, good for you. (Turns around and walks off)
At that point I felt like flipping him off, but I just left shaking my head.
Mark these words carefully: HYUNDAI WILL FAIL AS A CAR MAKER WITH THESE TYPE OF DEALERSHIPS.
And the MAJORITY of the Hyundai Dealerships I visited were this way. I had to drive 60 miles to find one that was EXCELLENT.
But, sadly, Hyundai is doomed as a carmaker unless they can get their "independently owned" dealerships in line.
My saleswoman worked for Hyundai, which was good. But the Sales Manager who had to get involved worked for the Pontiac/GMC side and knew nothing about Hyundai. The same goes for the finance manager (even though I paid cash the finance manager handles all of the paperwork). The two guys on the GMC/Ponitac side tried to sell me some crap extended warranty that involved a deductible. They knew nothing about the Hyundai extended plan.
There are six Hyundai dealers within reasonable distance from me. One I have not delt with so I will not say anything about, three I have delt with their sales and have nothing bad to say about them, one I have delt with their sales and will never go back to and one I have only delt with the service department which was a breeze.
I will say this too, I was impressed a few months ago when I walked into one to look at the new Azera and the salesman recongnized me from my Elantra purchase 5 and a half years earlier.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Anyway, after I opened the trunk without a key (much to his and the salesman's astonishment) he decided I must be a smarty, so he sicked the Finance Manager on me just to be (more of) a pain. I hadn't even discussed buying it with the salesman, yet.
Fortunately for me, there's a great dealership in Myrtle Beach, which is only 40 miles from my house (northeast, instead of 40 miles southwest). Now, here's the kicker - I never go to MB, so - the wise-guy at the SC007 site is going to get to take care of my car, assuming they find my "Bright Silver w/Black Leather Limited Ultimate" at a price I agree to - right? :confuse:
have you received your "STUDIE" emblem ? if so, did you install it yet?
i received my "IXION" emblem from DreamKa4u today, but am waiting to hear your experience before i attempt to remove the crooked H from the trunk
used to live in charleston in 90's.
and from my experience, hyundais were ok. not the best, but definitely not the worst.(SC, michigan, and maryland)
Here is the section from the Rules of the Road (linked on the left) that should be your guideline on dealer info:
6. Posts about dealers
When posting about your experience with a dealership, you may post ONLY the dealership name, city, and state. You may not post a salesperson's name, phone numbers, email addresses, links to dealer web sites, etc.
the previous post was about cutting a wire to disable the seat door chime - same chime as yours - in that application unplugging the connector under the drivers seat would work
in your case it was to disable the 75 mph chime
I did buy small spray cans of powder white pearl and clear - when the emblem arrives I will tape off the chrome outer ring and spray the Studie center pwp and then several coats of clear
Three dealers in my area - I called about co$t of synthetic oil changes and co$t of Scheduled Interval Service.
One dealer was $60 for the oil plus tax and shop cost, the S.I.S. was from $150 to $300.
Another dealer was like $10 cheaper for the oil change and the S.I.S. was about the same.
The last dealer, synthetic oil change $39 plus tax and shop cost, S.I.S. was from $50 to $100 and they post coupons with no expiration date and they replace tires for as long as you own vehicle for free - replace with factory required tire - you do have to have service done there - that's the requirement for the tire deal.
Good day and safe driving
Can you place a 'sign out' at the bottom of the last page???
After reading recent posts or posting one ends up at the bottom of the page where one could sign out or 'return to top' - either option/feature would be nice
Can you do this???
Has anyone purchased these manuals?
Seems to me that 'ALL' of this good press about Hyundai and numerous models to include Azera makes us think---
Maybe, just maybe we 'ALL' who have made the purchase have done the right thing. The Azera is no split window, but the value over time might be very positive, this is good , of course time will tell.
Went for a little cruise I did evening past.
Screen up, Infinity 'ON', roads clear...oh yeah, now were talkin
Sound level, 15, playing 'Who's Next', stopped for a light, the guy next to me thought he had a goer. Well let me say this about that. The light changed, cut an .085 light (yeah sure???) and dusted him real bad. Hot dam, that sure is fun and the Azera has the testosterone to do it.
Now if K&N developes that cold air intake and Superchips the power curve program---
OK, truth be told we love our Azera
It's true that the service manuals are, indeed, free for anyone to read. But, unless things have changed over the last couple of weeks, Hyundai's blocked access to most of the diagrams except for dealership service personnel. (Seems that the assigned passwords are the key on who does and who does not get diagram access.) On the whole I have had no reason to regret purchasing the basic shop mManual for my '03 Sonata. (I declined the second one which I believe the parts counter yahoo said was an extensive electrical system diagram and troubleshooting manual.) When I dump the car year after next, I can probably recoup a good portion of the $65.00 purchase price on eBay - there's always some moron out there who'll pay just about anyone's reserve - plus shipping charges! In the meantime, it's a handy reference for doing the occasional tidly things correctly as well as saving me grief for not even attempting the things that are beyond my scope.
"....after my weeklong test drive, I concluded that while the Azera is a credible lower-price alternative to other cars in its class, it is not the slam-dunk performer I had come to expect. The big sedan falls short of the class leaders in several measures, including ride, handling and mileage."
"On the other hand, those who have bought the car seem thrilled. Owners scored the Azera as the single highest-ranking car — in any class or category — in the annual Vehicle Satisfaction Awards from AutoPacific, an industry consulting firm."
"...Inside, my Azera Limited test car had faux-wood trim and real leather upholstery. While the quality of the materials was generally good, if not great, the interior looked better than it felt. Plastics were harder than the Avalon's soft-touch finishes. The foam in the seat cushion felt hard."
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It is not a sports car, but a sport luxury and luxury is prefered by me especially for the long trips. I've been through the mountains of West Virginia and the car handled amazing well and very little downshifting occured at 70 MPH and the Azera also handled itself well while going downhill as it maintained a constant speed regardless of the degree of the grade while going downhill.
Until your really drive this car and put it through all the different rides, you can only appreciate just a little bit of what this car offers.
All this talk about the gas mileage not comparing and that it is not a sports car yada ya.. is ridiculous and people should forget about finding the holy grail in any car. If you don't want plastic spend and extra $5,000.oo to get your leather or 20,000. more.
Enjoy the car the value is amazing and if Hyudai comes out with a great navigation system and bluetooth for 2007, I'm trading this one in.
The service manager said it was okay to use Mobil 1 Extended synthetic oil and go 12,000 to 15,000 between oil changes. So I put it in!
If there is anyone out there that knows the bolt pattern/offset could you please let me know
The Azera is far nicer than in competing cars ranging from the ancient GM W-body models (Impala, Grand Prix, and Century), the Ford Five HUndred / Montgeo, and the Buick Lucerne.
The smoothness, quietness, and power of the drivetrain are exceptional and quite a surprise for a car at the price shown on the window sticker. At least on this first drive, I was unable to provoke any torque steer or other bad charateristics of front wheel drive.
The car does lack a few things:
1) The leather on the seats in not perforated, so will be too hot most of the time in southern California. Besides perforations, cooled seats would be a feature fully in line with the character and equipment levels of this car.
2) A navigation system and Bluetooth are also quite glaring omissions, although it seems reasonable to expect that they will be offered on the 2007 model. Does anyone here know when the 2007 model will be out?
3) The lumbar support in the seat is too low for me (6' 1"), and only adjusts in and out, not up and down as does the system in the fancy version of the Buick Lucerne and Cadillac DTS. My wife also had the same complaint about the passenger seat (she is 5' 10").
The latest JD Power ratings for this car are also very, very impressive.
Unfortunately, the dealer I visited in Irvine, CA had a very pushy salesman who kept pushing a lease, even after being told that I pay cash for cars and drive 35,000 to 40,000 miles per year. He also did not know the options and equipment on the cars. Hyundai needs to get rid of such salespeople if they expect to suceed.
What is the minimum that I need to do to keep up the warranty?
-Loren
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
As for navigation systems I have the feeling their todays pet rocks. How many people will get one in their next car after they never used it in their last one after the novelty wore off?
Remember just because manufacturers are offering them doesn't mean that people actually want them. Lets see what is being offered 5 years down the line.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
IF you are a real-estate agent, or commercial driver or environmental consultant - you might need a navigation system. Even then, you can get away with a $50 program on your laptop connected to your GPS. (Street Atlas USA comes to mind - DeLorme - great program, and it talks just like an $1800/$2500 model...)
AAA maps are nice, and I am a member, but if you do not live in southern CA, you can not imagine the number of maps needed and the size of the things. It is bad enough when something falls on a page boundary in the book maps, but with the folding maps, it would not be unusual for me to need two or three different maps for one trip.
Those who observed that navigation systems are just expensive toys to some people are surely correct, but I have met people who based their choice of vehicle as much on the quality of the navigation system as anything else.
I have an LG something or another, not to sure what the model number is but its a few years old so I am not sure if you can even get it anymore.
Those who observed that navigation systems are just expensive toys to some people are surely correct
Well I think you can get portable ones for maybe 4-5 hundred bucks. I have a hand held one that I use for hiking and fishing that only cost me about 200 and has maps so it could be used in the car.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D