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  • brianlbaileybrianlbailey Member Posts: 22
    idele - Did you gather any more information from your dealer last week?
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    A sales manager said nothing new except that the number 2, 3 and 4 slots were now filled.
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    I stopped at the Lexus dealer and asked again about the arrival of the GS450h. March is more certain now. Also the waiting list has increased to 5. The dealers have been told the first vehicles will be in the colors white,silver, black. I'll be in Japan next week and will check out a Lexus dealer there.
  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060116/SUB/60113046/1023

    In unveiling its redesigned LS 460 flagship at the Detroit auto show, Lexus said the sedan will have the world's first eight-speed automatic transmission. The previous benchmark was the Mercedes-Benz S class' seven-speed transmission.

    The 4.6-liter V-8 is an all-new design, with both port and direct fuel injection, that generates 380 hp and 370 pounds-feet of torque. That delivers a 0-to-60 time under 5.5 seconds, while combined fuel economy is about 25 mpg.

    A hybrid version will deliver the equivalent power of a 6.0-liter V-12 while consuming the fuel of a V-6.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    A hybrid version will deliver the equivalent power of a 6.0-liter V-12 while consuming the fuel of a V-6.

    Is that supposed to be a good thing? My wife's 1990 LS400 gets consistent 27 MPG cruising at 75 MPH. It is a 4.0 V8 with more than enough acceleration. It also just passed it's smog test with flying colors. You may like the direction that hybrids are going. They don't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.
  • larsblarsb Member Posts: 8,204
    It's a good thing for the people who will drop $65K on this car. Which will be a very limited group. If they've got the cash, more power to them.

    And by the way: V12 power with the fuel efficiency of a V6 has been an automotive design goal for decades. Way before Hybrids.
  • objectiveviewobjectiveview Member Posts: 72
    Hmmm, about the expected hp of the GS450h, Lexus quoted that the combined horsepower would be 'well in excess of 300'. Now the LS460 is rated at 380hp... by those numbers i'd guess the GS450h would be in the 340-360 hp region, no?
  • callmedrfillcallmedrfill Member Posts: 729
    If your 380HP V8 is getting 25 MPG, how do you top that?

    Not a whole lot of V6s can get 25MPG combined. That is the high end of V6 economy.

    Same with the LS400hL. What could be next?

    DrFill
  • doctordatadoctordata Member Posts: 8
    To the best of my knowledge the GS450h is becoming available in the US between April 2006 and June 2006. Here
    are some details.

    0 to 60 = 5.3 seconds (all round quicker than GS430)
    Top = Limited to 155
    Price = $57K basic.
    Engine = V6 3.5 liter
    Packages = $6K to $10.8K
    Digitally Mapped = Yes
    Bui;t in = Tahara
  • doctordatadoctordata Member Posts: 8
    GS450h with 390 HP - These Salesmen know nothing.

    You will get 280 hp form the gas engine and around 60 from the electric motor - topping out at around 340 hp.

    This GS450h is known as the "balanced car" balanced between the LS600h and the GS300.

    It will cost around $57K (base price). Loaded around $68 K.
  • sortersorter Member Posts: 146
    How do you know it is the 280HP V6 and not the 306HP V6? To me, it makes more sense it is the same engine as GS350.

    306+45=351HP
  • objectiveviewobjectiveview Member Posts: 72
    all of that math doesnt really matter. Lexus said it will deliver the power of a 4.5L V8.....
    If their 4.6 delivers 380, the GS450h wouldnt be too far from that mark, plus they did say "well in excess of 300" and thats a direct quote

    My bet is on at least 360
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    Last week I was in Osaka. I had the hotel concierge locate a Lexus dealer for me. The closest one was three subway stops away. Lexus was introduced in Japan last August. The building was new, of contemporary architecture three stories high. The interior was very elegant and refined. Reception and a showroom on first floor with some offices. The second floor had a lounge and more offices and an additional car display area. The third floor was devoted to service with a long row of car lifts. There is an elevator to transport cars from street level to the service floor. A very impressive facility. I was surprised to learn entire operation is owned by Toyota. They've made a huge investment. The only cars currently sold are the IS250, IS350, GS350, GS430 and SC430. Contrary to a recent post in an Inside Line forum, the LS430 is not available: it's still sold as a Celsior at Toyota dealers. The upcoming LS will be sold at the Lexus stores. The RX400h is also not sold there. The GS450h will arrive in March, the same time as for the USA. A GS430 on display had a beautiful very light blue pearl color (the Japanese designation is 074) not seen in the USA. I suspect we don't get the same color choices. The sales consultant I talked to spoke English. He had an appointment coming up and when I left he pointed to the S class Mercedes that had parked with the client emerging.
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    My Lexus dealer informed me that sometime in the second half of March the GS459h will arrive. Every Lexus dealer will get just one car (with most options) in the initial allocation. The colors will be either white, black or silver.
  • bigdave2bigdave2 Member Posts: 40
    White, Black or Silver. Booooooo.

    Is that really the color palate that the likely demographis wants? Booooooring.

    Maybe this isn't the right car for me....

    But I'll definitely go check one out
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    These are the colors for the first allocation. The GS cars have a range of 10 colors. I don't care for the initial choice of colors but this car is going to be in short supply for a while.
    In my opinion the GS450h will be more fuel efficient than the RX400h at speeds over 65 mph because of its reduction gear which besides the 6 speed transmission gives you a power and cruise range. The reduction gear can also be put on non hybrid cars to get better fuel efficiency at speed and I expect most Lexus models will get it. And then there's the dual fuel injection, port AND direct...... Lexus comes at you from every angle.
  • bigdave2bigdave2 Member Posts: 40
    it's going to be very interesting to see if folks want this car. Many folks think only MPG-geeks want hybrids, but I believe that the desire for decent MPG goes much deeper. And if you can get the "enthusiast" drivers into hybrids, that's all good. It's not like those folks were debating between some 18 MPG luxusport car and some 45 mpg econocar. They are going to buy the luxosport car. Period. So why not find a way to get them some extra MPG?

    This car is out of my price range, but I might take a shot at leasing one.
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    This item is posted here because the engine with its dual injection is part of the GS450h powerplant.

    TORONTO, Feb. 15 /CNW/ - Lexus today received the 2006 Best New Technology award from the Automobile Journalists Association of Canada (AJAC) for an innovative fuel injection system introduced on the 2006 Lexus IS 350 luxury sport sedan.

    "We're pleased to accept the Best New Technology award from AJAC," said Stuart Payne, Director for Lexus in Canada. "At Lexus, we strive to develop new technologies that maximize the performance and efficiency of our vehicles, and the injection system on the new IS 350 sport sedan which won this award is an excellent example of that."

    The IS 350 is powered by a 306-horsepower 3.5-litre 24-valve dual overhead cam V6 engine that features a unique fuel injection system. This system combines direct fuel injection - delivering fuel to the combustion chamber - and port fuel injection - delivering fuel to the intake ports. Fuel distribution is controlled via the two types of injection, according to driving conditions:

    - When the engine is running under low or medium loads at lower speeds,
    both systems are used to create a homogeneous air-fuel mixture. This
    stabilizes combustion, improves fuel efficiency, and reduces exhaust
    emissions.
    - When the engine is running under heavy load, the engine automatically
    converts to a direct injection-only system. By controlling the timing
    and duration of fuel being injected directly to the combustion
    chamber, the combustion efficiency of each charge is maximized. It
    also allows the engine to operate at a higher compression ratio,
    thereby improving engine output and performance, by reducing the
    tendency of the compressed mixture to ignite prematurely.

    "Lexus is committed to developing new technologies to help improve the performance of our vehicles, and minimize their environmental impact," continued Payne. "While this award firmly establishes our technological leadership in the automotive industry, Lexus will continue to create leading- edge systems in our cars and SUVs for years to come."
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    Quote:
    The high-performance model of the GS range, the Lexus GS 450h is the world’s first hybrid luxury sedan, and the first full hybrid vehicle to combine front engine mounting with the rear wheel drive essential to sport driving dynamics.
    On sale throughout Europe from early summer 2006, the GS 450h features a 3.5 litre V6 petrol engine coupled to a high-output, permanent magnet electric motor. Combined power output is in excess of 250 kW/340 DIN hp accelerating the new GS 450h seamlessly from 0-100kph in less than 6.0 seconds.
    The new powertrain equips the GS 450h with performance characteristics equivalent to conventional 4.5 litre V8 engined models with fuel consumption on a par with that of a 4-cylinder 2.0 litre engined vehicle.
    Proving to be substantially more frugal than comparable sports sedans, the GS 450h is returning 7.9l/100km in the combined cycle; moreover, the new Lexus returns CO2 emissions of just 186g/km, markedly less than rival, premium sector sedans with similar engine power.

    Translating from metric to American measures:
    0 to 62.2 mph in less than 6 seconds
    29.83 mpg in the combined cycle
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    Thank you for this information. You stated that "The GS450h will arrive in March, the same time as for the USA". Are you sure they will be here in March? I have one on order but the dealership has no delivery information yet. :confuse:
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    As far as Japan goes, the information is from a representative at a Lexus showroom (owned by parent Toyota). The USA information is from my dealer (I'm #1) who says I should get it at the end of March. I believe supply will be very limited. At my dealer the waiting list is at 13. It is marketed worldwide. For example it is announced for March in Australia. The car itself is unique as a performance hybrid superior because of the technology to any competitor's sports performance cars. In Japan, for example, except for the new IS and GS models, most of the Lexus models, including the RX400h, are sold as Toyotas. This GS and the upcoming LS will be uniquely Lexus and stellar performers and, given the enormous investment in the Lexus network there,Toyota will want to keep the home network supplied. I will be in Tokyo from the 11th to 17th of March and it is possible I'll see the car in a Lexus showroom.
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    This is really most useful information. :) Is your dealer providing info as to prices and options? I was able to order one of the Neiman Marcus Limited Edition GS 450h last fall, but have no word yet as to when it will be delivered. It is supposed to be loaded with everything, but I have not seen a full list of features/options (it has a few NM add-ons such as a car cover and NM mats). Not sure for instance if it has the intelligent cruise control (my wife's RX 400h does not) or if it will have an iPod connection, like they are putting on the IS models. I am told the Levinson sound system is supposed to have more power than the super powerful engine ;) .
    I was in Chicago last week and I heard they had a 450h at the auto show there, but I did not have a change to attend. Maybe some others reading this were able to do so.
  • brianlbaileybrianlbailey Member Posts: 22
    I would be very surprised if it did not have the iPod connection. Even the 07 ES has that feature.

    Where you given any pricing info on the NM edition, or did you have to order like the rest of us with the price unknown?
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    This was listed in their Christmas Book for $65,000. It was limited to 75 vehicles (with one being used in a charity auction)link title">
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    The initial delivery is one per dealer. The options list is in initials. The dealer said it included the ML sound and the navigation system. Each dealer gets one car and mine will be displayed for a few says before delivery.
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    The Geneva show press release (see post above) states 340hp DIN. I am at a loss to translate the DIN figure to current SAE or bhp figures. Does it matter to me. No, because it is only the peak horsepower attained at some rpm. Basically useless. What one wants are the graphs of horsepower (in any definition) and torque versus rpm. Actually kW would be a superior measure to any of the hp measures. I brought back from Japan the Japanese brochures on the IS and GS and they had such graphs, I would add that this would be true for brochures in Europe and probably everywhere else but the USA. The people at the dealer tp whom I presented the brochures immediately saw the difference with the Anericam brochures which omit anything requiring some intelligence.
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    Well I don't disagree in general. It's a matter of competition. For example, MB has chosen the cheapest way to compete, that is, putting ever bigger engines generating high peak horsepower at very high rpms in their cars One just has to read all the posts thrilled about it. The American public doesn't understand the different definitions of horsepower, let alone, to demand graphs of hp (any definition, kW is best) and torque versus rpm which would be of real use. American automotive journalism doesn't help and for the most part is worthless. Most journalists are hired for their ability to write catchy phrases, not for any technical knowledge. Besides that, they know that they may be working for some automobile manufacturers press and advertising in the future. So within that community they have to behave and conform.
  • brianlbaileybrianlbailey Member Posts: 22
    At number 4 on my dealers list, I could be waiting for awhile. In any case, I hope they take good care of your car while they are showing it.
  • ideleidele Member Posts: 200
    quote above from flyer
    Just got a Lexus flyer from my dealer on the GS450h. Not a lot in it
    but a bit more information.
    Data based on prototypes and use of premium gas
    Most interesting announcement:
    "Instantaneous reponse. 0 to 60 in just over 5 seconds. Seamless acceleration"
    The 0 to 60 time appears better than previously announced. Based on my RX400h the seamless acceleration is valid.
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    Wow, this sounds very interesting. Is this a full brochure on the GS 450h, or just a one page piece? The GM at my dealer said he was at a Lexus production meeting on 2/24 and it was announced that the GS450h would be released in April. An exact date was not given for the GS…(the new ES350 is set to be released on April 21st).

    He asked about the Neiman Marcus edition and it is supposed to be released one week prior to the regular production GS450h, but again, no exact date at this time.
  • drfilldrfill Member Posts: 2,484
    2007 Lexus GS450h
    Can hybrid technology make a great sedan even better?
    by Paul A. Eisenstein (2006-02-24)

    The Big Island of Hawaii is a land of surprises. Along the warm, dry Kona Coast it's sunshine, swimming, and golf. But just ten miles away, along the cross-island Saddle Road , a torrential rain is pummeling down, while a blizzard scours the island's twin volcanic peaks.

    So it was an unexpectedly appropriate place to go for our first drive of the 2007 Lexus GS450h, a sedan that delivers a variety of its own surprises. The new model could very well redefine both the Lexus brand and the concept of hybrid-electric vehicles.

    "Hybrid" is, of course, what the little "h" stands for, making this the second gasoline-electric offering in the Lexus lineup. The first, the RX400h, debuted barely a year ago. A version of the automaker's crossover wagon, it's proved both immensely popular and quite controversial. Like the little Prius sedan sold by parent company, Toyota , Lexus bills the RX400h as an environmentally friendly vehicle whose high-mileage technology reduces both emissions and reliance on imported oil.

    In real-world use, the RX is more about feeling good than helping Mother Earth. Some reviewers, including those at TheCarConnection.com and The New York Times, have gotten just 21 mpg. Polling owners, the enthusiast site, GreenHybrids.com, got the average closer to 25 mpg, still a significant shortfall from the 33 City/28 Highway sticker. But if you don't save much fuel, there's the feel-good factor - and the access to the diamond commuter lanes with one person onboard, offsetting the steep hybrid price penalty.

    Well aware of the controversy, Lexus is nonetheless still singing a green tune as it prepares to launch the GS450h. But it is fine-tuning that message. The emphasis here is on environmentally sensitive performance.

    Cleaner than the average car

    The sedan, boasted chief engineer Shigetoshi Miyoshi, is "80 percent cleaner than the average car." But during a background briefing, he put the real emphasis on the fact that the new hybrid is not only the fastest-ever Lexus, but with a 0-60 time of 5.2 seconds, quicker than a Porsche 911 with the Tiptronic transmission. Top speed is a limited 131 mph for the U.S. version.

    Will you also get better mileage? Well, it depends. Almost certainly better than a 4.5-liter V-8, which officials claim is what you'd need to get comparable performance - and why the 3.5-liter sedan is designated the GS450h, rather than GS350h. According to Lexus, the '07 hybrid should match the fuel consumption of a stingy, 2.5-liter in-line four, rated 27 mpg City and 28 Highway.

    Well, that's what the window sticker is likely to show. But we wouldn't expect that in everyday use. Sure, in heavy L.A. traffic, you'll spend time in electric-only mode. But stomp on the drive-by-wire throttle and you're going to drain a lot of that imported petrol. During several admittedly brief runs around the Big Island , our test GS delivered results ranging from 19.3 to 24.4 mpg. Steep hills and hard acceleration, as you'd expect, quickly slashed away at the numbers.

    Now, as we tore through the Hawaiian countryside, we have to admit, we weren't all that worried about fuel economy. This hybrid-electric proved an absolute, er, gas to drive.

    Flat-out performance is exhilarating. The throttle nailed, you quickly sank back into the sedan's well-bolstered seats. Thanks to the "electric supercharging" system, the GS kept pulling as long as there was power in the batteries. And we found no noticeable loss in performance as we climbed to higher altitudes on this well-terraced island.

    With last year's introduction of the GS sedan, Lexus took a great leap forward. As the division's general manager, Bob Carter, readily admits, this is not a brand known for its high emotional quotient. Parent Toyota is trying to change that. It has set up a separate Lexus board of directors, engineering arm and design center. And the '06 GS made great use of the division's stylish new design theme, known internally as L-finesse.

    Lexus chose not to plaster the word, "hybrid," all over the vehicle, preferring discreet badging and otherwise subtle visual differences from the standard GS sedan.

    Synergy at work

    What matters most is largely found under the skin. Lift the hood and you'll discover an engine cover emblazoned, " Hybrid Synergy Drive ." It's an extraordinarily complicated package of technology - and not easy to boil down to a paragraph, but let's try.

    The 292-hp V-6 delivers power through a new hybrid transmission specifically developed for the GS450h (and likely other high-performance models to follow). The transmission can also be driven by the most powerful hybrid twin-electric motor system Toyota has ever built, which is capable of punching out 197 hp and lots of on-demand torque.

    (Don't try to add the horsepower ratings of the gas engine and electric motors. It doesn't work that way. All told, the GS450h makes a maximum 339 hp.)

    When slowing or coasting, the synergy drive system can recapture waste energy, as can the vehicle's so-called regenerative brakes, which create current, rather than waste heat. This power can be re-directed to the electric motor, or recycled into 40 nickel-metal-hydride batteries.

    The hybrid package is smaller and lighter than that used in other Toyota hybrids, notably the RX400h. That reflects the emphasis on performance over mileage, as well as the need to provide reasonable cargo space. There's room for two full-size golf bags in the trunk. Still, the motor, power electronics, batteries, and other hybrid accoutrements add about 386 pounds to the standard, V-6 GS sedan, which now weighs in at a hefty 4134 lb.

    On the road, you'd likely not notice. Nor are you aware of all the complicated machinations ordered up by the hybrid's computer controllers. "It's a challenge, when you're (switching from electric drive to gas-power) to tell when the engine starts," asserts executive engineer Dave Hermance. After trying, we have to agree.

    This is easily the most transparent of any hybrid we've driven. There's very little of that rubber-banding effect you feel in a Prius or RX as the engine revs, seemingly independent of actual road speed. It's even better when you put the shift in manual mode, where it does a reasonable job of emulating a six-speed manual.

    DrFill
  • drfilldrfill Member Posts: 2,484
    Alphabet soup

    The '06 GS introduced an alphabet soup of technology designed to improve handling, performance, comfort, and safety. There's a full review on-site, so to keep this piece from stretching on indefinitely, we'll touch on only a few key features, like VGRS, which provides variable gear ratio steering. The steering is electrically assisted.

    The Vehicle Dynamics Integrated Management System, or VDIM, takes input from sources like steering angle, yaw rate, brake pressure, and acceleration sensors. That regulates various traction systems, including anti-lock brakes, or ABS, Vehicle Stability Control, or VSC, Traction Control, or TCS, Brake Assist, or BA, and Electronic Throttle Control with intelligence, or ETC-i.

    Our test vehicle also included the optional Active Stabilizer Suspension system. (Perhaps you can understand why Lexus uses no acronym here.) It's similar to the BMW system used to variably torque stabilizer bars, but Lexus has gone electric instead of hydraulic.

    Toss in the standard rain-sensing wipers, Park Assist, and rearview camera and you've got a car with more silicon and copper circuitry than you'd find at a small Radio Shack. But what happens when it's all running?

    While we may be skeptical of the mileage claims, it's hard to fault the performance and pure fun of driving the GS450h. It's smooth and quick and nimble. As with the '06 GS, the steering is precise and quick and the suspension keeps you firmly planted on the road. Better yet, with the electric portion of the drivetrain directly linked to VDIM, the traction systems seem to work just that much more smoothly.

    Our complaints, then, are relatively minor. We'd like to replace the mouse-fur headliner, and some of the buttons for the video display are cheap looking. But the display itself is incredible. It's the highest resolution display Lexus has ever offered and that permits a much more detailed, eye-pleasing image, whether you're watching the Hybrid Synergy Drive display or using GPS navigation.

    Incidentally, the next-generation nav software now allows you to program street addresses by voice, so you don't have to stop and type - or so we're told. There are no maps for Hawaii , so we couldn't test the claim out.

    Expect the powers-that-be at Toyota to be watching quite closely to gauge the reaction to the new GS450h. If things play out well, it's likely to be the first in a series of high-performance hybrids from the Lexus brand. But it could very well kick off a bit of a backlash among those who believe gas-electric technology should be used exclusively to boost mileage.

    While we're skeptical of the save-the-earth claims, we're duly impressed with the GS450h's overall performance and handling. It's lavishly equipped and incredibly quiet, as you'd expect from a Lexus, but has a much more sporty feel than the brand has traditionally been known for. We expect a lot of folks to pay attention when the sedan reaches showrooms.

    :shades:

    DrFill
  • drfilldrfill Member Posts: 2,484
    If Lexus sells 10,000, it's a success. That's less than 1000 a month.

    The SC430, at similar money, sold over 17k it's first year.

    DrFill
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    Thank you for this post. Note that this article calls for an early May release.
  • brightness04brightness04 Member Posts: 3,148
    Finally an electically power A/C . . . where is the refrigerator . . . can I have a microwave oven too? ;-)

    Great car . . . just wondering why they did not try routing the electric motor power through the other axle, making an AWD . . . AWD's seem to be very popular in this segment lately.
  • drfilldrfill Member Posts: 2,484
    What does that mean for the GS460? Will it cost more?

    How will it justify a higher price? Will it be significantly faster that the hybrid? The GS450h will have many items standard that are options on the GS430.

    If the GS450h is as quick, and gets 50% better fuel economy, doesn't that kill off the V8 model?

    I fully expected at $63-65k price. That's why I compared it to the SC430. But with better economy, a lower price, and 4 doors, sales should be double what SC was out of the box.

    Any less than 20k units over 12 months is a failure.

    DrFill
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Member Posts: 890
    For those interested, Car & Driver has a short preview article on the 450h in this month's issue - just arrived at my house today. One thing that caught my attention is the extent to which the battery pack takes away trunk space, which is reduced to just 8 cubic feet as I recall.
  • maxhonda99maxhonda99 Member Posts: 1,289
    Road & Track also has a short road test article on the GS450h.
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    Are the Car and Driver and Road & Track articles available online? When I searched their sites, all I found was the Lexus recent press release from The Daily Auto Insider :confuse:
  • toycashtoycash Member Posts: 139
    Specs say 9.9 cubic feet for the trunk.

    I don't see any information about iPod connectivity.
  • gagricegagrice Member Posts: 31,450
    That is less trunk space than a Honda Civic Hybrid. Will anyone settle for that little trunk space?
  • JBaumgartJBaumgart Member Posts: 890
    Not sure about Road & Track, but Car & Driver waits a while, maybe a month, before posting its latest articles online. I suppose this helps them to sell more magazines.
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    Maybe drfill has some more details on the truck and iPod situation? That sure seems like a small trunk and the lack of iPod connectivity for a $4000 Levinson system does not seem like great planning. :surprise:
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    How detailed are the specs? Do they include everything that is available for a GS 430, including the Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (which was not offered on the RX 400h)
  • lexus460llexus460l Member Posts: 51
    I am really looking forward to the release of this car and i plan on getting one.
  • brianlbaileybrianlbailey Member Posts: 22
    I for one will be very ticked if they are putting IPod connections in the 07 ES but leave it out of the GS. At this point I'm hopefully guessing that it was not mentioned because they did not feel it was relavent.
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    I agree. They even put them in the 2006 IS.
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    A few months ago, I contact Harman Specialty Group that designs the Levinson Systems for Lexus and asked them if the GS 450h would have an iPod connection. They did not know, but their reply was interesting. Is anyone at Lexus listening?

    "As you might imagine we get many phone calls and emails from Lexus Owners and prospective Lexus owners and I can tell you that the number one question we get concerns iPod connectivity. A fact that we have made Lexus aware of. So I would imagine that any new radio would have this, although I cannot guarantee it, of course." :confuse:
  • gs450hgs450h Member Posts: 49
    I heard today that the official release date for the GS 450h is May 6, 2006.
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