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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I don't see it.

    Bob
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Well I wanted to make it REALLY hard! :)
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,676
    http://www.monroecountysheriff.info/images/historical/172-Carsmashedbytrain.jpg

    Although not squished in the "usual" sense. Bonus points if you can idenfity the car! :-)
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Geez Shifty, where have you been hanging out?

    Here are other images from that site. Some are rather gruesome...

    http://www.monroecountysheriff.info/images/historical/

    My guess is that car is a Model A Ford, or perhaps a Chevy of ~ 1928 – 1932 vintage.

    Bob
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...Model A Ford, but the wheels look slightly different. I don't think it's a Chevy because Chevies had doors on the hood versus louvers. Is it a Plymouth?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Innocenti 950 spyder

    http://www.carsfromitaly.com/others/index.html

    Bob
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,507
    Jeep would have sued for that rip off of the front end (later seen on the TR-6).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    TR250, I think....or is it a regular TR4.... used to own one. The TR250 was a one-year car (1968) and a great little automobile. Basically the TR4 body mated to the TR6 engine. Has the special "surrey" top.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    Look at the badge on the hood Shifty, and the license plate as well as the placement of the steering wheel. There was no TR-250 outside the US, it was known as the TR-5. :D

    Here's another member of the Triumph family->
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Oh, yeah, TR-5, that's right. Also called the TR5 PI for "petrol injection". I think it had (gulp) Lucas fuel injection--ironically the carbed TR250 could pass US emissions and the injected TR5 couldn't! Go figure....too bad, a 150HP TR4 with 6 cylinder engine would have been nice! Methinks a man might want to hurl that Lucas injection over a fence and get hisself two big Webers.

    What IS that race car, some kind of Michelotti design or??? headlights are wrong for a Spit but grill looks very Spitfirish....
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    It is a Michelotti design but not a Spitfire. I'll leave it at that for now and spill the beans this PM if no one gets it before then. ;)

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  • odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    I hope this picture comes through okay
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    I will give a hint, It is made by an american company :P
    Odie
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Wrath

    www.thewraithcar.com

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
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    It's a TR-S, essentially a TR-3 with a special body by Michelotti and various race mods to compete in the LeMans 24 hrs races of '60 and '61. It presaged the TR-4 (also by Michelotti) but was never introduced in street legal form.

    If you ever see Triumph at LeMans in the Speed channel program listings it tells the story of the Triumph factory racing at LeMans. It's not a one-off there were 3 or 4 made perhaps more. The pictured car was photographed at a vintage car race.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Early '40s Oldsmobile, my guess, a '41.

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    Early '40s Oldsmobile, my guess, a '41.

    It's a 1947 Model 78, Bob. As you can imagine '46 and '47 models were very close to those of 1941 on account of the unpleasantness of '41-'45.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    '41 Olds had the first hydramatic transmission I think...

    Compare that dated Oldsmobile design to what the Europeans were doing with styling in 1948...of course, the Europeans weren't mass producing yet.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,136
    Cisitalia...all time postwar classic

    But more mass market European cars in the late 40s were even more ancient in design than American cars...of course, the tech was different

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    And the Brits were even older, old design and old tech

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    American firms had about 10-15 more years of being styling trendsetters
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, but Detroit wasn't a bombed out heap of rubble either. I think Benz did a pretty good job with the 170 (that's what that is, isn't it) considering the country looked like the bottom half of a Shake 'n Bake bag in the late 40s, early 50s.

    The Brits did, however, finally leap into the modern world with this one in 1948: (sorry the picture is so big but I wanted this particular car to show y'all)

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,136
    Yeah it's a 170S....you can tell it's a more modern car by the fenders, which make it from 49, but with looks of a 1935 American car. I guess it is somewhat of a miracle that they were making anything...but if anyone could at the time, it was MB.

    The Jag is timeless, of course. It wasn't very dated even when it was 10 years old...and compare a 48 to a 58 Chevy to see what happened elsewhere. But some mainstream Brits were laughably old. This thing remained in production until like 1958 or 59, IIRC

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    of the more modern postwar designs that really put Europe on wheels..
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Ah, Renault 4CV. Great little car, wish I had one.

    I have a pair of Renault Dauphine cuff links, but I don't want a car to go with them.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    Postwar Euro that helped put a country on wheels.....

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    I think they stole the chrome stripe rightoff a postwar Pontiac.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I know this one because I kicked one once when it frightened me....but I'll pass and let someone else take a crack at it.

    The picture doesn't do it justice...in real life it is far more homely
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,136
    Austin Atlantic...I kind of like those. I saw an Austin Devon a couple years ago that was pretty cool....kind of a similar thing, more like a 3/4 scale 41 Chevy.

    Damn...I have a pic to post, but I can't bring it up, as comcast is all screwed up right now and I cnly get to certain sites.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,136
    OK now it might be working...

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    Mot sure but the shape of the windshield, roof and h/ls makes me think Euro Ford,
    perhaps a German Ford Taunus?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,136
    You're almost on the right track, andy...
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    You're almost on the right track, andy...

    British Ford Consul, ca. early ' 60s

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Looks like an Alfa on an American fast food diet!
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,136
    It's a Simca Vedette. Ford had an interest in Simca right before that model was introduced, IIRC
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    The chubby looking Alfa was a 2600 Sprint coupe ca. '60 which was obviously styled by Bertone and presaged the look of the trimmer, smaller Guilia Sprints and Sprint Veloces,
    arguably some of the best looking GTs of the era.

    The 2600 Sprint Speciale->

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    The later 1600 Giulia GTA->

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Oh, I thought it was a trick question. The 2600 Sprints are very heavy and slow. I don't like them to drive, and parts are almost unobtainium. Buyer beware.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    Well it was a trick question. ;) I've heard the 2600s were nothing special which contrasts with the well deserved reputation of the later Giuilia Sprints by Bertone which were fantastic road and racing cars then and highly desireable collectibles now.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Oh, you said "It's not what it seems" and I thought "Oh, an East German copy of an Alfa Romeo!"

    Guess I darn well outsmarted myself (once again).

    See I didn't trust you. I thought you were going to pull a fast one.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    the passing of MG Rover, it wore one of the many nameplates used by MG-R's forbears.

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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    1959 Austin A40.

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    Keerect Mr. H

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    ...the I.D. of this car but do you know why it wears number 722?

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    [Apologies for the oversize photo but it was too nice to pass up.]

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    oh, isn't that a beautiful piece of work ....sigh....

    300SLR--you'd have to be a real history nut to know the story about the numbers...
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Gee, that wouldn't be Striling Moss's starting time in the 1955 Mille Miglia, would it? :P
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    It would ;)

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    like I said.....

    Is that 300SLR still near the front doors of the Henry Ford Museum? Anybody been lately?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    of this MoPar before Andre gets here...

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    Love the two-tones and the beautiful wires :shades:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Chrysler Imperial, either a 55 or 56. I say 56, as there is a "hint" of tail fin beginning to emerge.

    Notice the small scoop atop the rear fender, signifies that this car had air conditioning.

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,388
    Notice the small scoop atop the rear fender, signifies that this car had air conditioning.

    That's almost as cool as the wire wheels. Yup that's a '56 'perial and I'm trying to resist the temptation to buy it, the seller is asking 20K. Good thing I don't have the dough. :cry:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

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