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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Opel Mantra sold at your local Buick dealer?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    Uncle Joe's older car is a ZIS 101, styling heavily derived from the ~35-36 Nash.
  • roywerioroywerio Member Posts: 5
    I wonder why Stalin did not used cars produced in former USSR?
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Actually, those cars were produced in the USSR as blatant copies of American cars. I believe Buicks were actually built under license in the USSR in the 1930s.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,241
    Olds Cutlass. Don't know GM's years.
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    1965 Oldsmobile Cutlass.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
    You're close Lem but if you look closely, just ahead of the rear wheels, you'll make out the flash that denotes the 4-4-2 version of the Cutlass.

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  • wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    I loved the '64-'65 Cutlass designs! I have a theory that GM finally solved the problems of quarter panel rust-outs on these 2. Back in the day I never saw any rust on these up North. Whatever they did, they went back to rust-prone quarter panels soon after.... Has anyone ever seen any rusted quarter panels on these 2 years?? Or does my theory have 'holes'....
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
    edited December 2012
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    edited December 2012
    A Datsun 1600 or 2000 roadster. I think they were also referred to as Datsun Fairlady in Japan.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    I think the Fairlady model is the Z-car here in the USA...

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Neat little car...they copied the British but bettered them as well. The 2000 Roadster had some serious engine problems, however. So they copied the British in that way, too! A japanese TR7! :P

    For some reason, these cars don't bring much in the collector car market.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    A severe case of "what might have been" for me. In 1981, I was driving down a major road in Melbourne when I saw a Red Datsun Fairlady 2000 convertible with a "Free to a Good Home" sign on it. By the time I turned around and came back (all of two minutes) someone else had stopped and snapped it up.

    A friend had one at university, which he had acquired under similar circumstances, with a warped head (I think that was the inherent defect with the engine). He spent his summer holidays labouriously grinding the head flat with grinding compound on a pane of glass. Bizarelly, this meant that the head dimensions were marginally different with differing compression ratios on each cylinder. It ran, sort of! But it was way sexier than my 1974 Mitsubishi Galany wagon!

    What you do when you are penniless students!

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    labouriously grinding the head flat with grinding compound

    Sounds like an astronomy major.
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
    Volvo XC-something or other. I'll guess XC60.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Very close. Revamped XC90.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    The oldest looking "new" car on the road (other than maybe a G-wagen, if that counts), so similar to a 10 year old model.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I rather like it; nice and functionally square looking, and you can see out the windows.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Back when the square Volvo wagons first came out, the joke was "Volvo--the car for people who hate cars".
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2012
    Even the two sedans in the family back in ~74 were square. Well, square box on top of a longer rectangle.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    edited December 2012
    Then that became Saturn. Now it's Toyota. :shades:

    The XC90 does appear to have good visibility.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited December 2012
    so does a bus
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited December 2012
    Revamped? Really? ;)

    Drove one of those on an autocross (Subaru had the Tribeca, Murano, and XC90) and that was the most ponderous of the 3.

    At the time I said, you can teach an elephant to dance, but you're still dancing with an elephant. :D
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited December 2012
    Well, you'll have to wait until the end of 2014 to try out the revamped one and see if it still is best suited to herding cows on the Ponderosa.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,517
    That a 70ish Triumph Dolomite?

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    Triumph 3500?
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
    edited December 2012
    Triumph 3500?

    Close, it's a Triumph 2.5 PI ca. '68-'69, essentially a Triumph 2000 (the Dolomite's big brother) with the fuel-injected six from the TR5 (same as the stateside TR250 except it was "petrol-injected").

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
    edited December 2012
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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Is that an R16? I used to have one of those. This was an incredibly popular car--they made almost 2 million of them!!

    They were very versatile. I remember that you could hook the rear seat onto the headliner, then open the rear hatch to make a wagon out of it for heavy hauling. Great on gas, too.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    Hmm looks like the car I posted in the obscure car thread the other day :shades:
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    Looks like the Chinese are stealing their own designs, now.. Who can tell that Volvo from the current model? :surprise:

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
    edited December 2012
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    BIGGER

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,830
    I'm going to say that the red convertible is a Mercury Cougar, and I think that is a Plymouth Valiant in the middle... (sorry, no years.. my calendar is out of whack... ;) )

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,390
    Yup, the red convertible (right on BIGGER version) looks like a 1970 Mercury Comet. The car on the middle is not a Valiant, it's not even a MoPar, anyone else?

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  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Maybe around a 67 T-Bird?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,517
    definitely a T Bird, but I am terrible with years on those.

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  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,094
    '66 full-size Chevrolet in front; '56 Ford truck (wraparound windshield I think); '68-69 Thunderbird in my best guess (has cornering lights and/or front side marker lights, the latter of which didn't start 'til '68). I can't see enough of the red car.
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,517
    the obvious answer is Pacer, though the plate indicates it is some overseas knock off version. though honestly, it does not look quite right for a Pacer...

    so I have no clue.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    Pacer with Hamburg plates
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    yes, yes, but WHICH special Pacer do we have here?

    HINT: Think Nash-Hudson merger
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    That was a few years before my time. Only Pacer model I can think of is an "X".

    Germany...Pacer Kaiser? :shades:
  • omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    Germany...Pacer Kaiser?

    Funny! :D
    French...AMC-Renault Grosse Femme?
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Pacer "Silver" Edition in 1979, complete with..well, silver paint and...AND...a V8!

    This edition commemorates the Nash-Hudson merger of 25 years prior, or so they say...who's counting?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,142
    That's a strange event to commemorate. Desperate marketing I suppose.
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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    edited December 2012
    G'day

    A lovely, lovely car. The Renault 16, I think from fairly late in its life. My father had one and he loved driving it, despite some assembly issues which gave it some problems. They were assembled in Australia from CKD (completely knoced down) kits imported from France. The production line, in Heidelberg, Victoria, also made Peugeot 504's in a rare show of French co-operation. There was some significant tax benefits for sales of foreign cars in Australia, through them being assembled in Australia.

    Dad's, along with about a thousand other Renault 16's was a failure on the CKD front. The drain hoses from the air inlet plenum, were of differing lengths and incorrectly assembled on Australian assembled cars, According in rainy conditions, the drivers foot-well stayed dry, but the passenger rapidly found themselves wading! It took a remarkably long time to solve the problem.

    There were also issues with rust-proofing which earned them a poor reputation in Australia.

    They also suffered from an inadequate parking brake. A friend parked his parents on a gentle slope, set the handbrake and was rewarded by the site of it slipping downhill at increasing speed, clearing a major highway and landing in a paddock opposite - minimal damage but an incentive to shove a brick behind the wheel ever after.

    The Renault 16 was interesting o drive, the body rolling alarmingly on its soft springing which was set up for rough French cobbled roads. The wheelbase was different on each side as the rear suspension hung off locating arms stretching the whole width of the car, Hence the Left side was marginally longer than the right.

    Despite the body roll, handling was very good and they cried out to be driven hard.

    It was pretty much the last car that I can recall with column shift four speed which was very educational for a young driver.

    The rear seats could be moved around in about seven different ways or removed entirely to increase cargo space (quite a novelty at the time).

    The wheels were on a three stud pattern with the hub cap secured by a central bolt. This made it virtually impossible to get the wheels balanced unless you went to a specialty shop.

    Dad's was a base model 16TL in a dirty brown colour, its greatest colour virtue being that it was identical to the colour of the dried coal in our local coal mines. Hence when driven through the mud in the mines, it looked just as awful as when clean.

    The fancier version, the 16TS had a tuned engine and was quite nippy. The Automatic 16TA was best avoided.

    Reliability was not a strong point, as with most Renaults; you rapidly develop a friendly relationship with the specialist serviceman!

    A happy memory.

    Cheers

    Graham
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