Allard Safari - they built about 10 or 12 circa 1951-3, or thereabouts. I saw one for sale at the British Classic Car show in Birmingham last November - might even have been this one.
"As a $19,999 option, B2K included new forged pistons and a secondary fuel injection system to keep the 382-horsepower turbo motor fed. That took the base C4 Corvette coupe from its $27,999 base price to $47,998.
That may look like a bargain price to 21st-century eyes, but the twin-turbo was notoriously fragile. Every element of the late-'80s Corvette was stressed by the additional output. So even though B2K was available through the 1991 model year, only about 500 were ordered."
Therein lies the problem with so many Corvette specials; they visually indistinguishable from the standard issue 'Vettes. The product planners seem to finally be aware of this. The C6 ZR-1 had extra vents and such, subtle but at least something to distinguish it from the regular C6 although it doesn't look much different than the Z06.
Do you ever see any 80s cars (other than the Grand National, Ferrari, Lambos etc) ever being collectible? Many of the old barges had the last of their runs, the 86 Taurus, etc? I'm talking 25-30 years from now.
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Not many 80s car, no. People keep saying "oh, one day Car X or Car Y will be a collector car" but let's face facts here---if a car hasn't made its move toward collectibility by 25-30 years, it's probably not going to happen.
There have been a few (very few) "sleepers" that took 40 or more years to wake up (e.g., the Tucker) but these were very VERY rare low production cars of extremely unique design and interest.
So if you can think of a very low production car (not a trim-only variant of a high production car) of unique performance, styling, etc. from the 1980s, then yeah, that car might have a shot.
Yes, true, but the M cars are rather low buck collectibles given how old they are and how much they cost to bring back to life--- and they've remained totally stagnant in value for quite some time. You can get more for a 1980s era Camaro Z-28 than you can for a M car.
The problem is that they look like regular BMWs and they really aren't that fast anymore.
But yes, some people do collect one or two--the reason values are stagnant is because everyone who wants one, now has one--so they just change hands at the same price because there is no strong buyer pressure to escalate. It's like "oh, you want X dollars for your M5...well call me if you'll take less".
So...collectible? Yeah. Hot collectible? No. Future collectible? Maybe not.
That white wagon has me stumped too. But the next 4 are all Ford; a '64 Galaxy, about a '66 Falcon, a TBird ('66 also I think) and a '57. Beyond that is a 2nd gen Corvair.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
Looks like a Datsun wagon but lights are not quite right. I wonder if it was local production under license or some sort of knock-off (popular in China and Taiwan)
After a lot of trawling the net, there is apparently a Taiwan version of many Datsuns, made by Yulon or Yue Loong. The names for the cars were as cheesy as the Japanese versions. Given that I found a head cover image with the name on it, I suspect that there might have been an engine plant as well as body assembly.
However, I have not found an image of this station wagon
A second generation (but Mark I) Ford Transit from about 1965-78. This one is a long wheelbase van with twin rear wheels. The stubby nose housed a V4 engine which was seriously underpowered.
This one appears to be LHD suggesting it was made in Europe, rather than England
An awful, awful vehicle. Its great claim to fame was that it was the vehicle of choice for UK thieves for a long time - totally unmemorable and most seemed to be in the awful red colour above. Every gypsy encampment seemed to have several.
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(Hint - apparently it was less well screwed together and way less reliable than your Addams Family woodie above looks to be).
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No sir, I don't care how much you will pay me - I will not take the beast off your hands for any money!
Ugly, isn't it?
Cheers
Graham
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1987 Callaway Twin Turbo Corvette
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"As a $19,999 option, B2K included new forged pistons and a secondary fuel injection system to keep the 382-horsepower turbo motor fed. That took the base C4 Corvette coupe from its $27,999 base price to $47,998.
That may look like a bargain price to 21st-century eyes, but the twin-turbo was notoriously fragile. Every element of the late-'80s Corvette was stressed by the additional output. So even though B2K was available through the 1991 model year, only about 500 were ordered."
1987 Callaway Twin Turbo Corvette
Therein lies the problem with so many Corvette specials; they visually indistinguishable from the standard issue 'Vettes. The product planners seem to finally be aware of this. The C6 ZR-1 had extra vents and such, subtle but at least something to distinguish it from the regular C6 although it doesn't look much different than the Z06.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Better pic.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
There have been a few (very few) "sleepers" that took 40 or more years to wake up (e.g., the Tucker) but these were very VERY rare low production cars of extremely unique design and interest.
So if you can think of a very low production car (not a trim-only variant of a high production car) of unique performance, styling, etc. from the 1980s, then yeah, that car might have a shot.
But a 1984 C4 Vette or a Taurus----not likely.
I think original VW GTIs are in demand but it's hard to find a good one.
An 80s Mercedes Turbo-Diesel model might do pretty well --if it doesn't have 80 gajillion miles on it.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
The problem is that they look like regular BMWs and they really aren't that fast anymore.
But yes, some people do collect one or two--the reason values are stagnant is because everyone who wants one, now has one--so they just change hands at the same price because there is no strong buyer pressure to escalate. It's like "oh, you want X dollars for your M5...well call me if you'll take less".
So...collectible? Yeah. Hot collectible? No. Future collectible? Maybe not.
Odie
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Small car driving is a Datsun Bluebird, I think.
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Looks like a big 70's Impala to me.
Looks like a Datsun wagon but lights are not quite right. I wonder if it was local production under license or some sort of knock-off (popular in China and Taiwan)
Cheers
Graham
My best guess (and that's all it is) would be a '63-64 full-size Buick, probably an Electra 225.
Interesting, the photo shows the location of a U.S. Navy NCO Club in Taipei, Taiwan.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
The photo was taken in 1970.
After a lot of trawling the net, there is apparently a Taiwan version of many Datsuns, made by Yulon or Yue Loong. The names for the cars were as cheesy as the Japanese versions. Given that I found a head cover image with the name on it, I suspect that there might have been an engine plant as well as body assembly.
However, I have not found an image of this station wagon
Cheers
Graham
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Is that a Nissan rebadge?
I like the two-tone, inside and out.
My information is that the new Renault Captur CUV is based in the Clio. Undoubtedly there's some Nissan in it as well.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
"Zee Japanese? Zay have nothing to teach us..."
Now it'll be the other way around.
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A second generation (but Mark I) Ford Transit from about 1965-78. This one is a long wheelbase van with twin rear wheels. The stubby nose housed a V4 engine which was seriously underpowered.
This one appears to be LHD suggesting it was made in Europe, rather than England
An awful, awful vehicle. Its great claim to fame was that it was the vehicle of choice for UK thieves for a long time - totally unmemorable and most seemed to be in the awful red colour above. Every gypsy encampment seemed to have several.
Cheers
Graham
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
according to the seller, it is a "1967 magirus firetruck german made in turky by ford"
Quite the lineage!
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2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Theoretically a Lancia Thema, but looks to be 100% Chrysler.
The original Thema was an interesting car, built on a common platform with Alfa 164, Fiat Croma and Saab 9000.
I know nothing of this latest version, although Lancia are badgins Chryslers as Thema and Voyager. Debasement of a once great name
Cheers
Graham