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  • magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,147
    edited January 2013
    Allard Safari - they built about 10 or 12 circa 1951-3, or thereabouts. I saw one for sale at the British Classic Car show in Birmingham last November - might even have been this one.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    well live and learn. And here I thought I nailed it. Damn!
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    Corvette C4, perhaps a ZR-1.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited January 2013
    More details please. It's special (and no, nothing to do with the "Stingray" that's all in the news tonight).

    (Hint - apparently it was less well screwed together and way less reliable than your Addams Family woodie above looks to be).
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 234,536
    Maybe it's the infamous '83 model that never existed?

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    No sir, I don't care how much you will pay me - I will not take the beast off your hands for any money!

    Ugly, isn't it?

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    Yup, it's an Allard P2 Safari ca. 1953. Looks like someone left a Jaguar in the oven too long.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited January 2013
    Nah, they sold ~500 copies of this Vette variant over several years. It's on one of our Top 10 lists.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,806
    Is it a Calloway (sp)? 88ish?

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited January 2013
    Very good!

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359

    1987 Callaway Twin Turbo Corvette


    Therein lies the problem with so many Corvette specials; they visually indistinguishable from the standard issue 'Vettes. The product planners seem to finally be aware of this. The C6 ZR-1 had extra vents and such, subtle but at least something to distinguish it from the regular C6 although it doesn't look much different than the Z06.

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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,806
    I like that. May as well go for a sleeper look and then blow them away!

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    edited January 2013

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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    edited January 2013
    Is it a 1961 Mercury Comet wagon?
  • silver_beastsilver_beast Member Posts: 3
    This car appears to be a Citroen, 1963-1965 vintage.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    worth about 1/2 MSRP now---not bad for an 80s car.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 15,806
    Do you ever see any 80s cars (other than the Grand National, Ferrari, Lambos etc) ever being collectible? Many of the old barges had the last of their runs, the 86 Taurus, etc? I'm talking 25-30 years from now.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Not many 80s car, no. People keep saying "oh, one day Car X or Car Y will be a collector car" but let's face facts here---if a car hasn't made its move toward collectibility by 25-30 years, it's probably not going to happen.

    There have been a few (very few) "sleepers" that took 40 or more years to wake up (e.g., the Tucker) but these were very VERY rare low production cars of extremely unique design and interest.

    So if you can think of a very low production car (not a trim-only variant of a high production car) of unique performance, styling, etc. from the 1980s, then yeah, that car might have a shot.

    But a 1984 C4 Vette or a Taurus----not likely.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    1980s BMWs, particularly M-cars are already collectibles. People will pay good money for a nice E30 or E28.

    I think original VW GTIs are in demand but it's hard to find a good one.

    An 80s Mercedes Turbo-Diesel model might do pretty well --if it doesn't have 80 gajillion miles on it.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yes, true, but the M cars are rather low buck collectibles given how old they are and how much they cost to bring back to life--- and they've remained totally stagnant in value for quite some time. You can get more for a 1980s era Camaro Z-28 than you can for a M car.

    The problem is that they look like regular BMWs and they really aren't that fast anymore.

    But yes, some people do collect one or two--the reason values are stagnant is because everyone who wants one, now has one--so they just change hands at the same price because there is no strong buyer pressure to escalate. It's like "oh, you want X dollars for your M5...well call me if you'll take less".

    So...collectible? Yeah. Hot collectible? No. Future collectible? Maybe not.
  • odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    maybe if you took that DeLorean back and told some of the companies what to do then the 80's cars would be collectable. :D

    Odie
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,059
    I wonder what the white wagon is beside the 64 Galaxie - I was thinking Datsun 510, but that's not it. Maybe a Rootes group car?

    Small car driving is a Datsun Bluebird, I think.
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,464
    That white wagon has me stumped too. But the next 4 are all Ford; a '64 Galaxy, about a '66 Falcon, a TBird ('66 also I think) and a '57. Beyond that is a 2nd gen Corvair.

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    I think the white wagon is a Datsun but the taillights are wrong for a 510, perhaps a late 60s Bluebird.

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  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,186
    What is that big dark red/maroon car way over to the left side of the picture?
    Looks like a big 70's Impala to me.
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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Looks like a Datsun wagon but lights are not quite right. I wonder if it was local production under license or some sort of knock-off (popular in China and Taiwan)

    Cheers

    Graham
  • uplanderguyuplanderguy Member Posts: 16,022
    My first guess was '75 Caprice Classic, but that's too new for the pic.

    My best guess (and that's all it is) would be a '63-64 full-size Buick, probably an Electra 225.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    I wonder if it was local production under license or some sort of knock-off (popular in China and Taiwan)

    Interesting, the photo shows the location of a U.S. Navy NCO Club in Taipei, Taiwan.

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Hmmm. The BB Club sign is in Korean and English. I would say the photo was taken in Korea.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    Needless to say, I don't know Chinese from Korean or Swahili but someone is pretty sure that the photo is of Taiwan.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,464
    Well, at least I feel better about not recognizing that white station wagon on the right; it was probably never sold here in the US of A.

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  • lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    Yes, the photo was taken in Taiwan.
    The photo was taken in 1970.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    After a lot of trawling the net, there is apparently a Taiwan version of many Datsuns, made by Yulon or Yue Loong. The names for the cars were as cheesy as the Japanese versions. Given that I found a head cover image with the name on it, I suspect that there might have been an engine plant as well as body assembly.

    However, I have not found an image of this station wagon

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    My first thought was that was the new Lincoln grill. Not a Ford logo though.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Looks like a Renault Murano. A little too much like a Murano, in fact.

    Is that a Nissan rebadge?
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Renault CUV based on Juke underpinnings.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Looks better and more practical than the Juke, though still a little wild.

    I like the two-tone, inside and out.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
    Renault CUV based on Juke underpinnings.

    My information is that the new Renault Captur CUV is based in the Clio. Undoubtedly there's some Nissan in it as well.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    There's lots of pressure on Renault to build Nissans in France. Reports are a bit conflicting as to whether it'll happen. (Reuters).
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I remember a quote from the late 1980s from the CEO of Renault at that time:

    "Zee Japanese? Zay have nothing to teach us..."
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    To be fair, Renault saved Nissan.

    Now it'll be the other way around.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,358
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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    A second generation (but Mark I) Ford Transit from about 1965-78. This one is a long wheelbase van with twin rear wheels. The stubby nose housed a V4 engine which was seriously underpowered.

    This one appears to be LHD suggesting it was made in Europe, rather than England

    An awful, awful vehicle. Its great claim to fame was that it was the vehicle of choice for UK thieves for a long time - totally unmemorable and most seemed to be in the awful red colour above. Every gypsy encampment seemed to have several.

    Cheers

    Graham
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,359
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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,358
    seems pretty close.

    according to the seller, it is a "1967 magirus firetruck german made in turky by ford"

    Quite the lineage!

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,358
    looks like a Chrysler 200 rebadged as a Lancia?

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  • grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Theoretically a Lancia Thema, but looks to be 100% Chrysler.

    The original Thema was an interesting car, built on a common platform with Alfa 164, Fiat Croma and Saab 9000.

    I know nothing of this latest version, although Lancia are badgins Chryslers as Thema and Voyager. Debasement of a once great name

    Cheers

    Graham
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