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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    Hmm...I want to say Fiat 127, but something doesn't seem right.
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    Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    edited March 2013
    it's those suspicious C pillar vents...be careful fin, this could be a trick... :confuse:
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    grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    Not a Fiat 127 as rear engined and intakes for engine air on C/D pillar are two high for 126 or Polish equivalent. It is also a bigger care than the 126, which had its roots in the Fiat 500.

    The rear end and general stance screams Fiat 850 derived. I will guess something by SEAT or Autobianchi.

    Cheers

    Graham
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    I'm really stumped, it's like a missing link between the Fiat 850 and the 126 or 127 except that no one seems to know what it is. I've checked every website I can think of and I can't find it.

    Good one Fintail

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    grahampetersgrahampeters Member Posts: 1,786
    G'day

    That was certainly hard. I think we could all see the Fiat roots, but I cannot recall ever seeing one. The Netherlands location and country plate (NL) were also a challenge.

    Having worked my way through the Autobianchi and Seat models, from the 1970s, I think it is a SEAT 133, derived from a Fiat 850 with overtones of Fiat 126. I gather they were also made in Argentina and Egypt. IN Northern Europe, they were apparently sold as Fiats. Never seen one

    Quite a challenge

    Cheers

    Graham
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    magnettemagnette Member Posts: 4,156
    Well done Graham - it is indeed a Seat 133 but was sold in northern Europe - including the UK - as a Fiat 133. I think the name was Fiat in markets where the Seat brand wasn't established.
    It seems to have been pretty much a rear engined 850 with the some glazing and panel interchangeability with the new 127, and bridged the gap where the old 600 had gone as the car was a fair bit cheaper than the 127 or 128 which were of course new and modern by comparison.
    We didn't get the Seat brand in UK until about 1984 when the Ibiza was introduced, followed by the Marbella and Sorrento, I think. The latter two were basically reworked Fiats but the Ibiza was a more modern design.
    I knew someone at college in the late 70's whose girlfriend used to have one of these cars- I had a lift in it a few times and it was nothing memorable but they must be really rare now except perhaps in the drier parts of Spain where the rust wouldn't have got them.
    Funnily enough I was in Spain last week and looked out for old cars - only saw one Simca 1100, a Seat 127 van and a couple of 80's Seats - nothing exceptional.
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
    It's a new one on me but I found it. What a difference it makes when you know what you're looking for.

    More on the SEAT/FIAT 133 here.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    There were a couple of hundred designs based on using the chassis and powerplant of the original Mini. Some moved the engine/transaxle behind the to create a mid engine sports car, I believe this is one of those clothed in some fiberglass bodywork.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    Nope. Not even close.

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    edited March 2013
    Mohs Ostentatienne Opera Sedan, late 1960s IIRC, a car as absurd as it's name.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    That one you got. A 1967 to be precise, in case it matters!

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    texasestexases Member Posts: 10,708
    A 1970-ish "Manic GT", Renault-based Canadian sports car. Well, as sporty as one can be with a 1.3 l Renault engine.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    Yup.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    must be something you guys don't know.

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    I think that's a Powell, called "Sport Wagon" maybe.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    a 1956. Tough crowd to beat.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    but I really like it. Would certainly get you noticed.'

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    fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,169
    edited March 2013
    I don't know what it is, but reminds me of something I saw parked on the street in Zurich (been shown here before):

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    edited March 2013
    that reminds me of a dale. just backwards.

    maybe it is a cheap DIY version of a Reliant?

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    omarmanomarman Member Posts: 2,702
    edited March 2013
    ATS 2500 GTS
    A time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing.
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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    A Litestar?
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    lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    The Powell was built on a 1941 Plymouth platform.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    correct on the ATS

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    seems like an oddball. Basically took a bunch of old plymouths and cobbled these together. Big problem was running out of parts.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    Nope, not a litestar (that anything like a litebrite?)

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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    You're showing your age if you remember when Limos were always this color>

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    wgraferwgrafer Member Posts: 592
    You mean there's a color other than black?? Nah, can't be.....

    Nice '54 Chrysler!
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    andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,392
    You mean there's a color other than black?? Nah, can't be.....

    I don't think I've seen a Limo that wasn't white in 40 years, except at funerals.

    I've always thought there was something elegant about the '54 Chryslers, before they went all "finny". That one's a stretched New Yorker.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    any more guesses for 36.429 (man that is a lot of posts!)? Going once, Going twice...

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    lostwrench1lostwrench1 Member Posts: 1,165
    I throw in my cards.
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    well, it took something this weird to find one that didn't get ID'd within 10 minutes.

    it is a 1985-1990 Owosso Pulse. a little bit about it:

    What Makes it Awesome: Once used in an advertisement for Coors beer, the Owosso Pulse looks like a jet but is actually powered by a Yamaha or Honda motorcycle engine. The Owosso's creator, a kitplane designer named Jim Bede, considered it a to be a roadgoing version of his airplane designs.

    What Makes it Obscure: Despite being remarkably thrifty with fuel, the Pulse saw limited production. Current estimates put about 150 left on the road. Maybe.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
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    lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Is it the 1970 Ford Torino King Cobra?
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    kissing cousins.

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    [Deleted User][Deleted User] Posts: 0
    It's even got tiny little 5 stars...lol.
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    odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    What is it?
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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,949
    Huh. That's rather interesting. Strange, though, that the driver seems to be in about the middle of the car, a hell of a long way away from the windshield, and no way in hell he can see where the nose ends.

    Anyway, it looks very Honda'ish in the nose and tail, but I doubt they'd be so bold in the styling overall. Hmmm... maybe something Korean... :confuse:

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    odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    Give you all a hint... bigger than a Fit, smaller than the Crosstour, and will be placed in the lineup right between them. It along with the CR-V will be getting the all new Diesel engine coming to the States along with the normal 4 cyl.

    Estimated price is going to be $18-$24k depending on trim levels.

    Odie
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    robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    Civic Crosstour???
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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    it is a little goofy, but I am a sucker for small hatchbacks, and for some reason I kind of like it.

    With the right powertrain (such as that diesel) it could really be interesting.

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    well, to close this one out.

    it is a 1970 "Mercury cyclone spoiler II long nose" Basically the Mercury version of the torino Cobra (Ford's reaction to the Superbird for NASCAR).

    and back in the days when cars had real names!

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,949
    Oh, so I got the Honda part right. Go me! :blush:

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    qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,949
    I am a sucker for small hatchbacks

    I don't think its that small, unless that driver happens to be a Hobbit.

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    odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    edited March 2013
    Yes it is a Honda, Yes it is Civic Based.

    This is the new 2014 Honda Civic Sport Wagon being unveiled at the NY Auto Show. From what I have read, its main target is the Ford C-Max, Mazda5, Toyota Prius V size comparision. It was originally going to be called the Fit Shuttle. Details are still coming out.

    Odie
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    lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    THIS is a Sport Wagon! ;)

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    stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,557
    Hello Wisconsin!

    and from that description of the civic SW, perfect size for me.

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    odie6lodie6l Member Posts: 1,173
    2 different styles...
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    And yes these are 2013's

    Odie
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