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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    oh, man you're throwing him lob pitches now!
  • bumpybumpy Member Posts: 4,425
    It's a front-engine VW Type 4 squareback. My dad used to have one. I guess the rear louvers were supposed to trick the casual observer into thinking the engine was in the back.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    http://www.1956goldenhawk.com/diffhawk.htm

    I beg to differ. Yes, it was a variation of the Studebaker Hawk, but it was "badged" a Packard. Scroll half way down this link, as there is an example of one.

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    It's a front-engine VW Type 4 squareback. My dad used to have one. I guess the rear louvers were supposed to trick the casual observer into thinking the engine was in the back.

    Sorry Bumpy, it's a Volkswagen all right but my copy of World Cars 1976 assures me that this model had the motor in the rear. Any more guesses?

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    I think Shifty meant it like it isn't a real Packard...as 57 and 58 Packards are not.

    That VW has a front that reminds me of the 412....but I don't think thats it.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    You're getting warm, Fin. It's not a 412 but I'm pretty sure it shares some sheet metal and the powertrain w the 412.

    I'll be Juice will know what it is (hint).

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Damn, I had to cheat. I'm not surprised now that I know what it is.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Okay, so that means it's a Brazilian VW.

    Bob
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Yeah, I meant it literally...it isn't a Packard. It's a 100% Studebaker than someone glued a Packard emblem on. So in other words, if I put a Ferrari script on a Yugo, is it a Ferrari because the Yugo factory bought Ferrari and sold it as one?

    I dont' think so but YRMV of course.

    Okay Bob's hot. I'm gonna have to get tough. And if anybody cheats the URL will trick you into revealing your guilt, so beware. This car isn't a one off, so it qualifies, although they only made a few of them.

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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Good one Shifty!

    Mohs SafariKar, and built on an International Scout 2 chassis

    http://www.hmn.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/articles.obg/id/47.

    http://desoto58.com/story/stmohs.html

    And you thought that Fiat 2300 was ugly!?!?

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Brazilian VW Type III Variant.

    Bob
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Uugh a Mohs, one of the ugliest for sure

    Here's a tricky one...the difference is in the details

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  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Chrysler obviously; since it's RHD, I'd say from Australia.

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    Brazilian VW Type III Variant.

    Could be, Bob. danged if I can recall what a Type III was but the picured car was sold as
    the VW Brasilia in the mid 70s. They were very numerous when I was in Rio during 1976.

    How 'bout this?->
    image

    Here's a better shot->

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    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    That's what the Aussies call a Ute but it's wearing a Euro license plate. It's obviously based on a mid -50s Chrysler, the spiffy wheels and probably the tonneau are add-ons.

    I'm stumped. (No one-offs remember!)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I deleted that image, but yeah it was a Chrysler "UTE."

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    image
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    Well, the Chrysler part is right anyway
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    Bob is that some kind of Humber military vehicle?
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    how some of those little foreign cars look like they have "faces" ripped off of older domestic cars. For instance, look at that Ford Anglia. Then look at a '57 Packard (or, more appropriately I guess, a '57 Packardbaker :-) Very strong resemblance.

    That 1966 Fiat 2300 sedan looks like they forces the front end of a 1958 Chrysler Windsor on to it! Right down to the medallion in the center of the grille!
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    well if it was a domestic car, it would be a 1969 Dodge, either a Polara or Monaco. But if it's an import, most likely it's actually on the shorter Plymouth Fury wheelbase, just wearing Dodge sheetmetal, and with some Chrysler name that hadn't been used in years, such as "Windsor" or "Saratoga"
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 57,097
    It's a South African export model...sold as simply the Chrysler "383".

    Probably about the last fullsize Mopar export model.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    Whoa, that's one I've never seen. :surprise: It looks like it could be one of Exner's earlier Italo-American/Ghia efforts. The windshield suggests it's from the '50-'54 time frame, as do the two-tones and wide whitewalls.

    Izzat a one off Bob :confuse: :surprise:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Nope, not even close. it is from 1950s Europe though, and no, not a one-off (as far as I know).

    Bob
  • nwngnwng Member Posts: 663
    a Fiat. The meanest teacher in my elementary school owns one. why i remember this? Cause I keyed it one day. Hers was light green and i believe has 4 doors.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    a Fiat.

    Sure looks like one but no, it's not. Even Bob's gonna have trouble w that one. :P

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Hint: It's from southern Europe. :)

    Bob
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    that those 0-100 times for the 1981 Zastava are in km/h, and not mph! :-)
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    1981 Zastava 101
    Exactly, it's that exact car in your link, obviously a license-built
    Fiat 128 sedan, curiously the steering wheel bears the Fiat logo. Zastava, a Croatian-based auto maker are the same folks who sent us the execrable Yugo
    which was mechanically also a Fiat 128 but with different hatchback bodywork.

    The C-pillar of the Zastava 101 is slightly different from the 128 as is some of the trim but otherwise it looks identical.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    I'll let Shifty take a stab at it, before I spill the beans. :P

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    It has to be Italian or French,Bob. I'm pretty well versed on Italian cars and I don't know it so I'll take a stab that it's French possibly w Italian styling :confuse:

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    obscure for a cool looking car...image.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    There are more countries in Europe than France and Italy.

    Oh Shifty, where art thou?

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    That's a tough one....I'll take a guess because it sort of reminds me of the style of Pegaso, from Spain, but I don't recall that body style exactly.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    BINGO! Pegaso it is!

    http://classics.com/pgss01.html

    Bob
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    1992 Moneverdi Hai 650F1

    Yes, I'll ignore the fact that you misspelled Monteverdi if you can tell us Peter Monteverdi's nationality and the numerical designation of the first Monteverdi Hai.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    BINGO! Pegaso it is!
    Doh! :cry:

    Body by Touring, I was right about the Italian coachwork. ;)

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    He was Swiss wasn't he? I never liked his music ;)

    I've only seen two real live Pegasos in my life. They are kind of rare and a mother to restore.
  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    He was Swiss wasn't he?

    Italian-Swiss I'm guessing. I really liked the Chrysler-powered GTs he did in the 60s
    like the Frua bodied 375S->

    image

    And the 450SS Hai with MoPar 440 power->

    image

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,370
    image

    But it's fun to look at. No it wasn't a one-off.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Piece of cake. Kaiser Darrin

    Bob
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    with a sliding front door!

    Okay, here's a hard one: Click on the squished image and it will open larger:
  • tmarttmart Member Posts: 2,233
    You're right it's hard. Where's the squished image??? :confuse: :confuse:
  • andre1969andre1969 Member Posts: 25,655
    my grandparents had a bunch of Matchbox cars for us kids to play with. One of them looked like this...

    image

    Probably not a hard one for some of you guys, but what is it? BTW, when I was a little kid, I couldn't pronounce its name, I thought it was some kind of Pontiac. Considering the Firebird-ish front-end, I guess that's not too far of a stretch!

    BTW, when I did a google search on it, pictures of the Matchbox car came up more often than the real thing did!
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    So I'm the only one who can see the squished image in post 105? That's weird...
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