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New Sierra/Silverado 2500 & 3500
greggaucho
Member Posts: 62
We need a topic exclusive to the new GM Heavy Duty
pickups. I'm tired of wading through all of the
Z71 talk on the giant Silverado topic for
information relevant to the new Sierra and
Silverado 3/4-ton and 1-ton trucks. It seems all
of the topics related to this keep getting
rejected. Meredith, please allow us this one
topic, the issues involving the new Duramax &
8-liter engine, Allison transmition, and purchasing
obstacles are worthy of exclusive discussion.
I've been looking to get a new Sierra 2500 with
Duramax/Allison. I personally like the looks of
the GMC better than the Silverado. Just for kicks,
I thought I would price the Silverado also, and I
was surprised to see that the Silverado doesn't
seem to allow as much versatility in ordering
options, and it would actually cost more for the
Silverado than the Sierra for what I would want.
Anyone have/heard any build dates yet?
pickups. I'm tired of wading through all of the
Z71 talk on the giant Silverado topic for
information relevant to the new Sierra and
Silverado 3/4-ton and 1-ton trucks. It seems all
of the topics related to this keep getting
rejected. Meredith, please allow us this one
topic, the issues involving the new Duramax &
8-liter engine, Allison transmition, and purchasing
obstacles are worthy of exclusive discussion.
I've been looking to get a new Sierra 2500 with
Duramax/Allison. I personally like the looks of
the GMC better than the Silverado. Just for kicks,
I thought I would price the Silverado also, and I
was surprised to see that the Silverado doesn't
seem to allow as much versatility in ordering
options, and it would actually cost more for the
Silverado than the Sierra for what I would want.
Anyone have/heard any build dates yet?
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Think I'll get a 2002 Silverado
3/4 ton, 2-wheel drive, 8.1 Allison auto, regular cab...
Anybody see that New color for 2001 metalic orange Gettin tired of black
I went by GM truck and Bus today and there must have been 200 HD Silverados in the parking lot...very cool to see..
Gregg,
there are several topics dedicated to the HD..or at least a few....so I don't think this is gonna make it?
- Tim
I have one ordered myself...
I e-mailed a quote request for a 3/4-ton Silverado (4wd/duramax/allison/SLT/club/longbed) to Dave Smith Motors in Kellogg Idaho last week. They are supposed to be one of the biggest volume dealers (if not the biggest) in the nation. You see lots of Dave Smith plates here in Oregon and all over the west. It will be interesting to see how they respond to an anonymous person like me requesting a quote for such a popular product.
I just hope GM gets production numbers up for this truck. I will never get something smaller than a 3/4-ton. I just found out that I can't even pick up the Bobcat I want to rent next weekend with anything less than a 3/4-ton. I really don't see the point in a 1/2-ton pickup unless all you're filling the back up with is soccer balls.
dave40,
You're right about the 3/4-ton Silverado looks. I really like the looks of the 1/2 Sierra's a lot better than the Silverado (just my personal opinion, Tim), but I do like the new HD Silverado looks alot better. But it's funny that the Sierra set up like I would want is actually less than the Silverado (the SLT Silverado is loaded with a lot more than I want, and does not have as much flexibility - the dealer invoice on the SLT Sierra loaded like I would want is about $35,750, while the Silverado would be over $37,000). I still might end up going with the Silverado because I have a some family relationship with a Chevy dealer and maybe I can get some help with getting an allocation or something.
GMC did have a few more flexable points..like a slider in an LT (SLT)..and 2 tone...but I believe GMC is more expensive...not cheaper. They may have x package and Chevy has X package that make whatever more expensive...but it's close regardless.
I take no offense to what you like....like I said..I just prefer not to buy GMC, mainly due to the front end.
- Tim
More about Dave Smith Motors (Kellogg, Idaho). They sell Dodge, Chevy, GMC . . .. They are the largest dealer for Dodge pickups in the world and the largest GMC dealer in the Northwest. They say their "no hassle pricing" uses the same method of setting prices, for all vehicles, for all customers. It will be interesting to see how this works out, such a high volume dealer and such a high-demand truck. I hope I don't sound like I work for them, I just know they gave my boss a very reasonable price on his '99 Sierra, which he then used to get the local dealer to match. Only problem is, the local dealer is small-time.
http://www.62-65-dieselpage.com/duramax/2KDura.htm
I have asked this question several times, but no one ever seems to have an answer. Are the headlights on the Sierra brighter? They sure are larger. I do a lot of night driving where there is big game (deer, elk, antelope), and bright lights are very important to me. I know I can get aftermarket bright lights, but often the biggest problem is with oncoming traffic where you need to use low beams. My current Dakota has pathetic headlights, especially the low beams. My wife just got a new 4-Runner that has the best headlights I have ever seen. They are huge, and the low beams are particularly good. If the Silverado's headlights aren't as good as the Sierra's, as I suspect they are not, I think it is pretty stupid to make an important functional item like headlights inferior solely for a designer's idea of good looks.
He said that two-tone is not offered, on-star is restricted until the beginning of the year (which should not affect me)
Yes they are brighter than the C/Ks.. but the same as the 2000 Sierra 1500s...
4x4,
SteveO here,
the the cosmetic things on the outside and the
option of the 8.1 and diesel".
You left out larger cooling system (Radiator, Transmision cooler, Oil cooler, P/S Cooler), Much larger Frame, Stronger Transfercase, Stronger (And larger) Rear End..
The 1500HD is ment to haul people more than cargo, but if you need to haul things your still driving a quit capable vehicle.. Where as the Ford Supercrew is useless for anything other than groceries and small cargo..
Plus the 1500HD sits low enough to the ground that it will attract the older folks.. You may like a truck to sit way up in the air but I can guarrantee you ask 100 people on the street which they would prefer (Low or High) and 90% would take the lower step in height truck...
SteveO
- Tim
I am talking about whether the Sierra's headlights are brighter that the Silverado's. They are definitely different shapes, with the Sierra's appearing much larger, more like my wife's 4-Runner. The Silverado's headlights look more like the size of my Dakota, which has pretty poor lights.
4x4,
I would not want to go with a 1/2-ton ever again, on any truck, let alone a crew cab. Things just tend to fall apart faster, and instead of working well within the range of capacity the truck was built for (with a 3/4-ton or 1-ton), you will find yourself at the higher end of the working range with the 1/2-ton, putting stress on less durable components. The ride is no better on the 1/2-ton, and the cost difference is negligeable at the levels of these new trucks. Besides, even if you only plan on carrying people, you are bound to fill it up with heavy things or tow heavy things from time to time.
will the 2500's be phased out with the HD2500's now?
- Tim
Greg
The 2500HDs with a GVW of 9200lbs will cover the 4 Models they dropped from the 8600lbs GVW..
Confused??? I hope not...
See ya..
Steve O
whatever...I'll be getting the 2500HD....
....at least Chevy gives us a 6.5 bed..unlike Fords super short 5.5.....
- Tim
See ya....
I have two friends that still have those trucks..
Both 1500 Long beds with a 454 and 400 Turbo transmissions..
Body is rusted all to bits but the engines are still kicking...
Anybody seen any real-world fuel mileage results yet on the Duramax? I've read a number of press releases and early tests in various magazines, but nobody has published any mileage results yet.
I am trying to decide whether the fog light option is worth the money. I have fog lights on my current pickup, and they are virtually worthless. In fog or snow you can tell the fog lights are on, but they do not help the low beams appreciably. Further, they are no better than the low beams if the fog lights are used exclusive of the low beams. I think it is different than a passenger car, where the fog lights are way closer to the pavement. So I was wondering if any of you have fog lights on current model GM pickups, and whether they are worth the money. I was kind of thinking of getting some good aftermarket fog light/high beams instead. My buddy has some aftermarket high beam lights that he uses on vacant road in the desert or mountains that work great.
Ryan
- Tim
I have been told mileage is better pulling and empty than the competitors.. How much better????
Steve O
That Duramax oil capacity is less than the Ford or Dodge - I thought those were like 12-15 quarts.
kcram
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I did not know if the poor fog lights were just a dodge thing, if all the manufacturers put cheap ones in, or if fog lights are just too high off the ground to be effective on 4wd pickups. At any rate, thanks for the info.
Thanks for the oil capacity figures KC. Do you use synthetic with your diesel? Anyone heard anything yet on if GM recommends sythetic oil?
Getting back to the new GM HDs, am I alone in not liking the single lens over the center three ID lamps on the roof (and tailgate on the 3500s)? A rock cracking the lens could easily cause a three bulb failurew if moisture (rain, snow) enters the hole, while individual lights (Ford, Dodge, previous GM) would suffer only a single failure. On a plus side, I give GM credit for using complete taillamps, with separate amber turn/hazard lights. It still amazes me how Ford and Dodge think a single red lamp is sufficient for all rear lamp functions.
kcram
Co-Host - Smart Shopper & FWI Conferences
edmunds.com Town Hall
The reason is, you have three holes in the top of your cab instead of Five.. Less chance for water to enter... I think the lights are LEDs.. I may be wrong, but I am almost sure they are..
I personally don't want the lights on my pickup, so it really doesn't matter to me..
They look VERY cool at night though...
Steve O