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You got the exactly same answer I got. It looks infiniti is trying to avoid this issue.
Bmw
TIA
Alan
While doing the inspection, they want to replace the coolant, tranny fluid, air filter and driving belts and stating there are some bad cracks on the belt. I know for a fact that the coolant was flushed 3 month ago and I myself replaced the air filter last month, I just basically declined all those service requests.
Now, I am curious: Has anyone replace their driving belts? If you did, at what mileage & age of the car? It seems too early consider the car is only 3 years old and has about 43k miles on it.
Then he said, well if you get some belt stop-squeak spray at Pep Boys and spray it on the belts they'll quiet right up. They show no signs of wear so that's prob what I'll do.
My experience with american cars is belts every 45-50k miles whether they show signs of wear or not. You don't want to get in the middle of tim-buck-too and have the altenator belt snap. Probably at night. If you're gonna keep it a while I'd say 43k is getting to the point of consideration. BUT if you can see cracks on the INSIDE of the belt or any fraying on the edges it's time to change them regardless of mileage. Rubber belts will degrade at different rates depending upon your climate, humidity, is it garaged every night or out in the weather ... this type of stuff.
I'd be interested to know what they charge you, so let me know if you get it done.
Granted I do not keep cars as long (used to keep them for 10-12 years), but I have never need to replace the driving belts before 90K miles on Japanese cars. So, this seems fishy to me. I will have to look at the belts Monday to see what is going on.
Don't use the belt spray...it's a temporary fix, at best. If you can't tighten the belts and get rid of fan belt noise, replace the belt.
The only belt I change religiously when it's recommended is the timing belt. If that goes and you have an "interference" engine your engine will be destroyed. I don't know if the M35 or M45 are "interference" engines.
What year and model is yours?
I thought it might be the slot, so I swapped them and didn't make any difference. The ones works still works and the ones doesn't doesn't. I can play ALL of them in my regular CD player at home, so all CDs are good CD.
So, is there any trick that I am not aware or is there a work around?
Dealer: $280 (belt included)
Other shops: $120 + cost of belt - about $60. So, total about $180.
So, I decided to try it myself. Ordered the belt for $52 (2 belts) and have them done in about 1.5 hours. The actual belt change took me 20 min. the rest is taking off and put on the under engine cover (I did not know they have 20+ screws to hold that thing).
Since the belt I put on is of much better quality, it is supposed to last another 10 years. So, I am all set for now.
I bought a 2007 M35 recently and noticed later on that the floor mats are missing. Does anyone have suggestions on where I can buy decent floor mats? The mats have a funky shape and "generic mats" dont fit this car.
I searched online and there are ton of results, but don't know who I can trust among all these sites.
Thanks.
Sean.
$99.00 OEM front and rear w/ colors + shipping
For the check engine light, it most probably is a failed sensor related to emission - either the O2 sensor or the MAP sensor. It will not affect how the car drives, but will definitely fail you on inspection. Also, if your gas cap is loose (not closed tight enough or the cap itself is failing), it can also turn on the CEL.
I don't believe the Check Engine Light has anything to do with the Timing Chain .....that chain is either working or broken...no light to warn you of imminent disaster. You DO want to change the timing change when it's scheduled, even though it's expensive. The replacement chain is far less costly than the replacement engine.
Bmw
I would ask to have the tires replaced with non Goodyear tires...in fact it's a known issue and I would insist on tire change.
My saga continues--in dealing with an interior rattle the dealer heard, his response was "play the radio".......never another Infiniti for me.
At some point, the NHTSA will get enough complaints or there will be enough accidents so that they focus on this. Hint....
My wife would not drive mine unless I was in no shape to.
Not a great car for the Bronx River Parkway.
I got used to the steering since it was like some boats I have sailed.
Conti Contact tires helped allot. Much safer in rain & snow also.
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10262951
Summary:
1 - PROBLEM HAS OCCURED SINCE I PURCHASED THE CAR NEW IN FEB 2007.1 - WHEN I DRIVE ON ROADS WITH TRUCK RUTS THE CAR PULLS ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER, OFTEN FORCING ME INTO THE OTHER TRAFFIC LANE (IF I DO NOT CATCH IT SOON ENOUGH). 3 - NO RECALL TO FIX THIS PROBLEM TO DATE. I DO NOT HAVE AN ALIGNMENT PROBLEM NOR A TIRE PROBLEM.
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10255842
Summary:
CAR HAS VERY IRREGULAR STEERING ESPECIALLY ON GROOVED PAVEMENT. PULLS SHARPLY IN EITHER DIRECTION FROM TIME TO TIME. I BELIEVE THIS IS CALLED TRAMLINING. I HAD A 2006INFINITI M35X SEDAN WHICH HAD THIS PROBLEM AND I NOW HAVE A 2007 MODEL OF THE SAME CAR AND THE PROBLEM IS EVEN WORSE. MY WIFE REFUSES TO DRIVE THE CAR THINKING IT IS UNSAFE. I HAVE NEW TIRES ON THE CAR. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10251031
Summary:
I OWN A 2007 INFINITI M35X AND IT PULLS OR IT HAS TRAMLINING ISSUES. THE CAR PULLS WILDLY TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT INDISCRIMINATE ON VARIOUS ROADS. THE CAR FEELS LIKE IT IS GOING TO LOOSE CONTROL AND GO INTO THE DITCH OR ONE COMING TRAFFIC! SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE TIRES, STEERING RACK OR BOTH. RECALL IS IN ORDER. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10245407
Summary:
ON MILDLY RUTTED HIGHWAY SURFACES, SUCH AS I-5 AND I405, VEHICLE JERKS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT, REQUIRING AGGRESSIVE STEERING WHEEL MANAGEMENT TO KEEP THE CAR IN THE PROPER LANE OF TRAVEL. ON HEAVILY WORN SURFACES, LIKE I-90 IN SPOKANE, THE CAR WILL JERK HARD ENOUGH TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT TO SWERVE INTO THE NEXT LANE ON EITHER SIDE. DEALER SAYS THIS IS A COMMON COMPLAINT ON M35X (ALL WHEEL DRIVE) ONLY. WAS ADVISED BY INFINITI DEALER TO INCREASE TIRE AIR PRESSURE TO 37PSI FRONT AND 33PSI REAR. THIS HELPED BUT NOT SUBSTATIONALLY THIS IS A DANGEROUS VEHICLE! NO ACCIDENT, YET! THERE NEEDS TO BE A DESIGN CHANGE BEFORE I GET KILLED OF KILL SOMEONE ELSE. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10221928
Summary:
I PURCHASED A NEW INFINITI 2007 M35X DECEMBER OF 2006 THE CAR CAME EQUIPPED WITH GOOD YEAR RSA TIRES 245-45-18 AFTER 15,000 THE TIRES ARE TOTALLY WORN TO THE WEAR BARS FRONT AND REAR THESE TIRES HAVE BEEN ROTATE AT 6,500 MILES AND 13,000 MILES. THE CAR IS UNSAFE TO DRIVE ON THE HIGHWAY IT FOLLOWS THE GROVES IN THE ROAD, ALSO IN RAIN IT IS HORRIBLE AND UNSAFE. TIRE PRESSER IS AT 33 LBS ON ALL TIRES AND ALL TIRES ARE EVENLY WORN. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10262951
Summary:
1 - PROBLEM HAS OCCURED SINCE I PURCHASED THE CAR NEW IN FEB 2007.1 - WHEN I DRIVE ON ROADS WITH TRUCK RUTS THE CAR PULLS ONE SIDE OR ANOTHER, OFTEN FORCING ME INTO THE OTHER TRAFFIC LANE (IF I DO NOT CATCH IT SOON ENOUGH). 3 - NO RECALL TO FIX THIS PROBLEM TO DATE. I DO NOT HAVE AN ALIGNMENT PROBLEM NOR A TIRE PROBLEM.
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10255842
Summary:
CAR HAS VERY IRREGULAR STEERING ESPECIALLY ON GROOVED PAVEMENT. PULLS SHARPLY IN EITHER DIRECTION FROM TIME TO TIME. I BELIEVE THIS IS CALLED TRAMLINING. I HAD A 2006INFINITI M35X SEDAN WHICH HAD THIS PROBLEM AND I NOW HAVE A 2007 MODEL OF THE SAME CAR AND THE PROBLEM IS EVEN WORSE. MY WIFE REFUSES TO DRIVE THE CAR THINKING IT IS UNSAFE. I HAVE NEW TIRES ON THE CAR. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10251031
Summary:
I OWN A 2007 INFINITI M35X AND IT PULLS OR IT HAS TRAMLINING ISSUES. THE CAR PULLS WILDLY TO THE RIGHT OR LEFT INDISCRIMINATE ON VARIOUS ROADS. THE CAR FEELS LIKE IT IS GOING TO LOOSE CONTROL AND GO INTO THE DITCH OR ONE COMING TRAFFIC! SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THE TIRES, STEERING RACK OR BOTH. RECALL IS IN ORDER. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2007
Complaint Number: 10245407
Summary:
ON MILDLY RUTTED HIGHWAY SURFACES, SUCH AS I-5 AND I405, VEHICLE JERKS TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT, REQUIRING AGGRESSIVE STEERING WHEEL MANAGEMENT TO KEEP THE CAR IN THE PROPER LANE OF TRAVEL. ON HEAVILY WORN SURFACES, LIKE I-90 IN SPOKANE, THE CAR WILL JERK HARD ENOUGH TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT TO SWERVE INTO THE NEXT LANE ON EITHER SIDE. DEALER SAYS THIS IS A COMMON COMPLAINT ON M35X (ALL WHEEL DRIVE) ONLY. WAS ADVISED BY INFINITI DEALER TO INCREASE TIRE AIR PRESSURE TO 37PSI FRONT AND 33PSI REAR. THIS HELPED BUT NOT SUBSTATIONALLY THIS IS A DANGEROUS VEHICLE! NO ACCIDENT, YET! THERE NEEDS TO BE A DESIGN CHANGE BEFORE I GET KILLED OF KILL SOMEONE ELSE. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2008
Complaint Number: 10260639
Summary:
THE STEERING ON THE CAR PULLS LEFT OR RIGHT WHEN STOPPING DEPENDING ON THE ROAD PITCH. I TOOK THE CAR INTO INFINITY FOR SERVICE. THE SERVICE MAN SAID NOTHINGS WRONG ALL INFINITI'S DO THAT. I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN EASILY GET INTO AN ACCIDENT IF THE CAR PULLS INTO THE OTHER LANE. THIS SEEMS TO ME LIKE SOME SORT OF DEFECT IN THE STEERING OR BRAKING OF THE CAR. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2008
Complaint Number: 10250128
Summary:
2008 INFINITI M35 SPORT HAS A SEVERE TRAMLINING PROBLEM. DRIVING THE CAR ABOVE 60 MPH THE STEERING BECOMES VERY UNPREDICTABLE. THE CAR LIKES TO SWERVE LEFT AND RIGHT AND RARELY WANTS TO TRAVEL IN A STRAIGHT LINE. SOMETIMES THE CAR ACTUALLY GOES INTO THE OTHER LANE. CAR WILL NOT TRACK STRAIGHT FOR MORE THAN A SECOND OR TWO AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS. EVEN MORE NOTICEABLE IS AT SLOWER SPEEDS (I.E. COMING TO A STOP) VEHICLES PULLS VERY HARD AS THOUGH IT HAS HIT A LARGE POTHOLE. I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2008
Complaint Number: 10248870
Summary:
BRAND NEW 2008 INFINITI M35 SPORT HAS A SEVERE TRAMLINING PROBLEM. DRIVING THE CAR ABOVE 60 MPH THE STEERING BECOMES VERY UNPREDICTABLE. THE CAR LIKES TO SWERVE LEFT AND RIGHT AND RARELY WANTS TO TRAVEL IN A STRAIGHT LINE. SOMETIMES THE CAR ACTUALLY GOES INTO THE OTHER LANE. CAR WILL NOT TRACK STRAIGHT FOR MORE THAN A SECOND OR TWO AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS. INFINITI DEALERSHIP SAYS THERE IS NOTHING WRONG. THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT TELLING THE TRUTH. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2008
Complaint Number: 10247283
Summary:
MY CAR, A 2008 INFINITI M35X, EXHIBITED EXTREME TRAMLINING (POOR ROAD TRACKING) ON INITIAL DRIVE. THE CAR WOULD WANDER ALL OVER A LANE WHEN RIDING ON A RESURFACED TAR LINE OR SIMILAR. IT WAS MORE SEVERE AT HIGHER SPEEDS. COMPLAINT TO THE DEALER RESULTED IN AN IMMEDIATE TIRE REPLACEMENT, FROM
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2008
Complaint Number: 10247283
Summary:
MY CAR, A 2008 INFINITI M35X, EXHIBITED EXTREME TRAMLINING (POOR ROAD TRACKING) ON INITIAL DRIVE. THE CAR WOULD WANDER ALL OVER A LANE WHEN RIDING ON A RESURFACED TAR LINE OR SIMILAR. IT WAS MORE SEVERE AT HIGHER SPEEDS. COMPLAINT TO THE DEALER RESULTED IN AN IMMEDIATE TIRE REPLACEMENT, FROM GOODYEAR EAGLE RS-A TO MICHELIN PRIMACY MXV4 WHICH RESULTED IN SOMEWHAT BETTER ROAD RESPONSE, BUT STILL QUITE SEVERE AND NOTICEABLE EVEN AT LOW SPEEDS. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE FROM ANY CAR, LET ALONE ONE THAT COSTS MORE THAN $50,000. CHECKING VARIOUS FORUMS, I SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THIS VERY PROBLEM. MANY CLAIM THAT CHANGING OUT THE STEERING RACK SOLVES THE PROBLEM. IT'S CLEARLY DANGEROUS AS IT STANDS AND NISSAN/INFINITI SHOULD ISSUE A RECALL TO CORRECT IT. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2008
Complaint Number: 10220198
Summary:
STEERING MECHANISM IS DEFECTIVE. STEERING WHEEL TRAMLNES AND WANDERS. UNSAFE LANE CHANGE. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2008
Complaint Number: 10217860
Summary:
THE STEERING WHEEL "TRAMLINES" AND TURNS UNCONTROLLABLY. AT LOW SPEEDS , AND BEFORE THE CAR COMES TO A FULL STOP, THE STEERING WHEEL MAY COME TO REST AT A 30 DEGREE ANGLE. *TR
2006
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10262863
Summary:
BOUGHT CAR IN OCT/2008. AFTER FIRST MONTH NOTICED ERRATIC STEERING PROBLEMS. SEARCHED ONLINE AND FOUND SEVERAL OTHERS WHO HAD SAME PROBLEM. CAR PULLS TO RIGHT OR LEFT VERY ERRATICALLY EVEN ON SMOOTH FLAT ROADS. TOOK CAR TO ONLY INFINITI DEALERSHIP 3 TIMES. THEY DROVE CAR AND SUGGESTED I BUY NEW TIRES BEFORE THEY WOULD LOOK AT ANY STEERING ISSUES. THE TIRES THAT WERE ON THE CAR ONLY HAD 3000 MILES ON THEM. REPLACED TIRES ANYWAY WITH SECOND SET. CAR STILL HAD SAME PROBLEMS. TOOK CAR BACK TO DEALERSHIP, TECH DROVE 6 MILES AND SAID NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH THE CAR. CALLED INFINITI CONSUMER AFFAIRS TO NOTIFY OF THE PROBLEM AND POOR SERVICE FROM INFINITI DEALERSHIP. CONSUMER AFFAIRS SPOKE WITH DEALERSHIP AND BOTH REFUSED TO FIX THE CAR. THIS CAR IS UNDER FACTORY WARRANTY WITH AN EXTENDED WARRANTY AND WAS TOLD THAT THIS STEERING IS NORMAL FOR THE CAR AND THEY WERE NOT GOING TO FIX IT. I EVEN GAVE THEM CONTACT INFO FOR OTHER DEALERS THAT HAVE REPLACED PARTS ON OTHER CARS FOR THE SAME PROBLEM. THIS CAR IS UNSAFE. DEALER DID NOT TAKE TIME PUT ON THE RACK TO INSPECT OR PROPERLY TEST DRIVE. TERRIBLE DEALERSHIP WITH TERRIBLE SERVICE!! *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10258870
Summary:
THIS CAR WILL FOLLOW EVERY DIP OR RUT IN THE ROAD AND WILL PULL THE WHEEL HARD TO RIGHT AND LEFT MAIN IT DANGEROUS TO DRIVE IF BOTH HANDS ARE TIGHTLY GRIPPING THE WHEEL. NEW TIRES HELP THE PROBLEM FOR A WHILE BUT THEN IT STARTED BACK UP AFTER THE TIRES GET WORN IN AGAIN. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10257736
Summary:
TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2006 INFINITI M35. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 55 MPH ON UNEVEN ROAD SURFACES, THE VEHICLE UNEXPECTEDLY PULLED TO THE LEFT WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. THE VEHICLE TURNED IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF THE INTENDED STEERING. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN DIAGNOSED FOR THE MALFUNCTION. THE CONTACT IS IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER FOR REPAIR. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 28,000.
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10256809
Summary:
2006 INFINITI MX35 STEERING PROBLEMS. CONSUMER STATES THAT OTHER OWNERS HAVE THE SAME STEERING PROBLEMS. *NJ THE DEALER STATED THAT ALL ASPECTS OF THE STEERING SYSTEM TESTED NORMALLY. *JB
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10252326
Summary:
VEHICLE EXPERIENCES SEVERE "TRAMLINING" OR PULLING OF THE STEERING WHEEL TO THE LEFT OR RIGHT UNDER BRAKING OR ON UNEVEN ROAD SURFACES. I HAVE ALMOST ENDED UP IN THE NEXT LANE AND MUST APPLY ACTIVE PRESSURE TO KEEP THE STEERING CENTERED. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10246745
Summary:
THE CAR STEERING IS UNSTABLE AND CAN'T GO STRAIGHT ON THE UNEVEN PAVEMENT. IT GOES TO RIGHT OR LEFT BY ITSELF. THE ALIGNMENT DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM. THE NEW SET OF TIRE DOESN'T FIX THE PROBLEM. TOTALLY, THE DRIVING FEELING IS UNSAFE. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10216326
Summary:
STEERING DIFFICULT TO CONTROL. DEALER INSTALLED NEW STEERING RACK.. SEEMS TO HAVE CURED PROBLEM. *TR
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10161464
Summary:
WHEN DRIVING OVER A SECTION OF RUTTED ROAD THE CAR MOVES UNPREDICTABLY AND STRONGLY TO BOTH LEFT AND RIGHT REQUIRING CONSTANT STEERING ADJUSTMENTS TO KEEP IT STRAIGHT. THIS CAUSES A HAZARD IN HEAVY TRAFFIC. *NM
Complaints Summary
Make: INFINITI
Model: M35
Year: 2006
Complaint Number: 10159432
Summary:
2006 M35 SPORT PULLED TO THE RIGHT WHEN BRAKING OR HITTING A BUMP. *TS WHEN THIS OCCURRED THE CONSUMER LOST SOME CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE. *NM
I don't know if they have a standard for this....if an accident occurs and is linked to this problem, I suspect that they have enough to start an investigation.....
Hopefully, Infiniti will do a public or private recall on tires...
VeraGen
My lease expired in Feb and I am waiting for a special ordered an Audi A4 2.0 with sports suspension package.
Your other cars considered are luxury rather than performance driving cars. Two good choices if you like their feel and handling.
CR is not a good source of car tests. They are better for safety and reliability data. Read the forums with postings and reviews by real users.
I also hear BMW is giving great deals on 328's or 328x's.
Listen to the stereo, See if the seat heaters really work (unlike M35s)
Don't be bullied and BSed by salesmen. Most people spend more time trying on shoes than road testing cars.
Discuss OEM tires before accepting delivery. Read the ratings on Tire Rack . Don't get a $50,000 car with worthless rubber like Goodyears on Infinities.
On top of that, the OEM tires from Infiniti just made it worse - I have mine replaced at 20K and it drives perfectly. During normal drive, it feels like a luxury car and when drive aggressively, it reminds me of BMW 330i or even the M3 (I have no experience for the current M3 and I am comparing with the M3 back in 2005).
So, if you do decided to get an M, try to avoid the X - M35X or M45X and replace the OEM tire with something else. You will get yourself a luxury performance sedan.
As far as the seat heater - I am in Texas, so, no complaint there since I rarely use it. But the seat cooler works beatifully!
I had G35s as loaners and loved them. If the rear seats folded down I may have consider a G37 with the new engine and tranny.
I like the G35 as well - the newer version. The older model is OK, but not as nice as the M, so I bought my M45 and so far it has treated me really good. The premium sound upgrade make it bearable - still not great consider the cost of the car ($58k).
When are you going to get your Audi?
My resolution was to insist they replace the tires--with 29K on the car they made me pay half, but then agreed to reimburse me as it was a known issue with the Goodyear tires--and they to date have not reimbursed me!
Then again, I have other issues inside the car, and am willing to walk away from the last three months of the lease--I would NEVER recommend an Infiniti to anyone any more based on this experience.
When you leave the car for a week, and they say they can't find the vibration noise in the cabin, then you insist that the service advisor comes on a drive and he hears the noise, then the service manager says "just turn up your radio", there is a PROBLEM.
Yes. Some auto problems have no solution. M35X trammeling may be one. My kids just moved to Dix Hills. Try the trammeling the Bronx River Parkway from the Cross County to White Plains for a white knuckle M35X ride. See Pepe Infiniti. They may solve your problems. They replaced my steering rack on my 2006 M.
Could your vibration be from wheel damage from potholes in NYC?
Lease was over 2/09 I had the 14 speaker 5.1 Bose but the speakers were light weights. I liked the cruise that slowed with the traffic and the keyless entry, a/c seats too.
Audi is due in late April. I didn't order all the Infiniti level options like keyless and Bang Olufsen stereo. That would be a 3,000 add-on. I have another car in the meantime.
I may have considered another M if they put the 7-speed in the 2009s. Still the Audi A4 is a great car albeit smaller and much lighter on the gas pump. A smaller car is easier to maneuver in my area. We don't have the Autobahn like L.I.E. We do have the Sprain Brook speedway whose 55 mph limit is eschewed by the 75-80 mph average. A great source of ticket revenues and DWI arrests.