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I was hoping that either the Acura RL or the MDX would see improvements in mileage for the 09 models, especially considering the fact that they both "require" that you use premium fuel.
I work 30 miles from home and not near a mass transit station (at least in the area that my office is located) so that translates to 300miles for a 5 day week and roughly $4.40 a gallon. It becomes very impractical to buy this car (or the RL).
I will look once again at Lexus since they seem to offer the space i want in both a SUV (RX400H) and a sedan (GS-450H) but even if i go for average fuel economy (for the class) the Audi A6 or BMW 5series are far better (but slightly more expensive than the RL in initially acquisition cost) and saves me money in the long run especially if fuel cost keep rising (i think $5+ is possible by EOY).
I guess I can only hope that when my wife is ready to change her car that Acura gets their act together and releases either a hybrid or more fuel efficient gas engine. It is just not practical for me.
13.5MPG !!! (that's crazy, that is the mpg number for an American made SUV like the Hummer or Expedition ) :confuse:
P.s. curious about the Hyundai Genesis also but i am waiting to hear what the mileage is like. With Honda being the only manufacturer to make a profit last month I hope that they realize how bad the market is now and that offering a better more cost efficient product in their Acura line will assure future buyers to their luxury line (which did not sell well over the last few months).
Mixed - 18-19 MPG
Hwy 22-23MPG (65-75mph)
Current mileage : 7K.
I think Mixed 19 mpg is acceptable for 300HP V6 AWD MDX.
Last weekend The cheapest gas I found was 4.13/gallon for 93 on Costco gas station in Potomac Mills, VA.
The nearest gas station from my home (Texeco in Rockville MD) asks for 4.05/gallon for regular, 4.33 for premium last weekend. Sunoco actually sells 91 which is about 5 to 10 cents cheaper than 93. I would probably still use Charvon/Texeco because their special gas additive.
2008 MDX Tech/Ent
Mileage is 1,500.
Why does Edmunds continue to use that misleading Buick ad about the Enclave getting better mileage than the MDX?
It's apples and oranges, the MDX has SH-AWD as standard and the vehicle that they are comparing it to is front-wheel-drive. Just wondering... :confuse:
Driving to and from work - some stop and go -with 5 miles on freeway at 60 MPH...getting about 19.5. This weekend, longer - 200 mile trip at about 65 MPH - still got right between 19-20. I was hoping for better on the long trip.
To calculate it yourself Do the following
Fill the gas tank up
Note down the milage on odometer (say M1 miles)
When the tank is almost empty
Fill it up with gallons G
Note the milage M2
Calculate (M2-m1)/G
and see if it matches your trip computer
Nothing too newsworthy...but I can't believe how much difference the driving makes. That is start slowing from stop signs, lights, etc.
Or gliding into the same. When gas was at $4/gal I got a lot better mileage. Now have reverted back to my old ways....not horrible - but without any efforts to conserve.
Cracks me up when I see a Prius on the road....maybe it is just me - but they are all driving 5 MPH under speed limits, coasting into stop lights, very slow acceleration.
AVG (City) - 17.4L/100km [13.5mpg]
AVG (Hwy) - 14.8L/100km [15.9mpg]
GAS: 92 Octane Chevron or 91 Octane Petro Canada
Notes: Oil changed at 166,000km, all fluids changed at 166,000km
We have winter tires on right now.
I thought something was wrong with the car but it seems like the tires plus maybe low pressure might be the only thing. I'm pretty shocked at the mileage. When summer hits I'd like to try out some good summer tires and see if i get an improvement.
When we first got the car (used) the trip meter read 19.5L/100km [12mpg]! Yikes!
Any other ideas what might be eating up my mpg? I wish it was as simple as the parking break.
The most I've seen is 24.1 mpg when a tank had 100% interstate driving, and this was with a fully weighed down vehicle, the A/C going, and averaging 75-80 mph.
The MPG is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. There are no good options in this segement, only less bad options.
The price of gas is also irrelevant, since it could easily be at $150/bbl or at $40/bbl in 2010, and in both scenarios that would imply some serious underlying problems with the health of the US economy.
DIC (Driver Information Center) says 22.3 MPG but doing it the old fashioned way I come up with 19.82 MPG (-2.48) and on the second trip 23.30 MPG on the DIC but doing it by hand I get 21.60 MPG (-1.70). Soooooo - I'm doing good but never trust what the DIC tells you.
This is my second import (2008 Nissan Altima is my other car) and that car is averaging after 15+ fill ups a -1.73 on DIC to actual readings. My two latest domestic offerings (2004 Ford Expedition and 2006 Chevrolet Malibu) both averaged -.78 and -.65 MPG from what the DIC said.
Wonder how the foreign cars keep getting away with this? I thought the new MPG figures took away this disparity????
We use the recommended octane for the 2008 MDX. Have any used a lower octane and received similar results? Any effects from using the lower octane such as engine "pinging" or lower MPG?
I don't know why acura recommend 91 octane.. Basically pilot and mdx have very similar engine.
Having the screen of "Trip Computer", I started experimenting at different speeds with every tank fill ups. When driving on the highways at 80mph and city mix, I was getting around 280 miles for the tank full of 20+/- gallons ( 4 to 6 people in the car ). Then I started lowering the highway speed to 70, 60, 50,45 and 40. I have tried 38 at the lowest with the D5 gear but on the slopes it looses the lower gear setting and I have to speed up to 45 miles speed to get back.
I have recorded 35 miles per gallon as the best reading on the highway after driving around 25 to 30 miles after the fill ups.
The city and highway mix lets me drive for 520 miles+/- for every tank fill ups.
There are few more gas savings things I do:
1. Drive on the right lane of the highway with flasher on.
2.In city driving, I turn the engine off at the traffic light if it is going to be more than a minute wait. There are few more gas savings ideas I am using also.
My first brakes lasted till 60,000 miles, front two tires changed after 90,0000 miles. The muffler is still original.
Let us save the fuel and have some fun!
Thanks.
"There are few more gas savings things I do:
1. Drive on the right lane of the highway with flasher on. "
I see a rear end collision in your future, If you're that concerned about mileage why not get a Prius?
Only real gas saving is drive sensibly, avoid excessive braking and acceleration.
but yea, on freeway i drive 65 mph with cruise control. keep it legal.
In seems like there are only two options:
1. The 2010 MDX in fact gets MUCH lower city MPG then the Federal EPA tests suggest (at least given my route) and this is NORMAL.
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2. My car has an issue/is a LEMON.
I am trying to figure out what is the case and would appreciate if anyone can let me know if they have faced such a low city mileage.
I have looked into detail in how the EPA conducts their MPG tests. Here is the link: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml. Their city tests do look somewhat better than my city driving conditions. For example, my morning commute is 2.5 miles. The total trip takes me around 12-14 minutes (including stoppage time) so the average speed is around 10.7-12.5 MPH.
The EPA city test runs a bit longer (around 11 miles) and has slightly less stops per mile. Their average speed is 21.2 mph. This would suggest I should get somewhat worse specs than the 16 MPG that the EPA city test though getting a 50% drop seems a bit too much.
- Does anyone get such a low MPG on their commute (I live in Cambridge)?
- Also appreciate any advice on what to do. Raised this with Acura Boston tech people and first they said I should wait till after the break-in period. The car now has 1000 miles on it and still just as bad MPG. When I pushed again, the tech person called saying that he test drove drove a 2000 MDX and got and MPG of 10.9. Not sure what to make of that since who knows what a 10 year old car will give.
But also not sure what to make of that response since it seems to suggest that the EPA city ratings are just off for any type of boston-type city driving???
I have now asked them to give me a similar 2010/11 MDX loaner to compare its MPG on my route & also to run extensive checks on my car. So far though feel am getting a bit of run-around and seems I need to excalate my complaint. Would appreciate any advice/experience on that as well.
- Also if anyone has any clues on why the city MPG is so low would appreciate that. My highway MPG is not so far from what the EPA ratings would suggest. The issue really shows up in city driving and the car seems to do particularly bad on routes with multiple stops. I also get the sense it moves faster than what one would expect from a stop situation after releasing the brake suggesting that the engine may be consuming too much fuel in idling state (although the RPM does seem to be at 750 as expected).
Help! Frustrated and Disappointed.
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1.) Shorter trip with frequest stop is bad on gas.
2.) Accelerate easy instead of pushing or racing.
3.) Avoid hard brakes, means when you see light is red, no need to rush and take foot off gas. In half of instances when you reach stop sign, it's already green that way not need to stop and accelerate from zero.
4.) Use suggested fuel.
5.) Last but not least, when you reach around 10 K miles point, car already adjust to local conditions and mileage inproves.
I had my car giving 12 at new and now around 16-17 MPG.
Hope it helps and satisfy some of your concern. When I say do not race to reach stop sign, I mean go normal and not also offend other drivers by blocking the lane by going super slow. Here I do not want to start that war as why you bought MDX then.
the MPG increase you list sounds encouraging - I assume your route has remained the same though in which case it's an impressive increase.
Btw I did get a loaner car from acura. It was exactly the same (2010 tech) and interestingly gave me better mpg on the same exact route (so for e.g. instead of 8 MPG in my mdx, the loaner gave be around 10.5)
that does suggest that either there is may be a natural improvement over time
however one very different thing i noticed about the loaner is that at a stop/light, the minute i take my foot of the gas it would drop rpm and gen slow down quite rapidly (as is normal) and the car would not move forward much. However with my MDX even when I come to a complete stop, the MDX still seems to take a few secs extra in revving down (and in fact keeps moving several feet on a flat road after a dead stop i.e. even if I press the brakes fully and then let go). This seems like a small distance but on a route with lots of stops this can make a big difference
i tried asking the local acura guys whether there was a way to adjust the settings to have a normal/rapid slow down when one takes ones foot of the gas but they didn;t seem to know how to do so or whether this was even possible.
do you/any others notice this with your Acura? (FYI - on a flat surface when I do a deadstop and then let go of the brake my MDX moves forward about 20 + feet easily and only after that comes to a slower crawl)
Btw - there was another boston based post where someone had the exact same problem - the post is no longer there so am wondering what happened? I am still talking to the acura people so would be interesting to compare/coordinate.
Total Miles - 17996
Avg Speed - 30MPH
Avg Fuel A - 28.0 MPG
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Avg Fuel B - 20.8 MPG
I drive about 5 days (work) in city and 2 days on highways. These readings are right after my couple hours drive (120 Miles)
I feel these are good numbers, what do you guys think.
Just interested to know if any one Acura MDX 2008 or older owner have tried it and if so, what he thinks about it. Neither I am favouring it or otherwise, just curious to know.
http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2010/12/fuel-doctor-fd-47-fails-the-consum- er-reports-fuel-economy-mpg-test.html
http://www.fueldoctorusa.com/fuel-doctor-challenges-consumer-reports/
Now many of you may queston what I say now, as i did at first. On the highway at 75-80 mph, (yes I speed) our trip down to the Mojave Desert and later up to Yellowstone from the SF Bay Area Ca. i averaged 29-31 miles per gallon with cruise control on at a steady 80 mph.
I believe the MDX is a bit smaller than my RL, and little less weight ergo, after break in the mdx should do better than my old 08 RL.
I am not trying to start something but I do see a divergence in results on this board and on the RL board. I hope ALL of us get excellent milleage and enjoy their vehicles for a long time.
Good luck to all and stay safe.
jensad