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Comments
- Tim
Explain them chevy frayed wires, cross-threaded bolts, clunking rear-end and steering that wears out right after the warranty expires. Your feeble old tobacco stained brain can't comprehend what we all know. $33,000 Chevy truck = repair after repair after repair...!!
Ryan
as I've said.....where's the 2500/3500 Tundra?....I guess they gotta make a 1500 size first!?
Dohh!
- Tim
Ryan
Ryan
I couldn't quite hear the rest of his rambling because he's got those really loud tires and those double exhaust things. Last thing I saw before he sped off was the mud flaps with the Yosamite Sam character saying 'Back off!'. I guess he really hates [non-permissible content removed] and my kind, yeah I am of Asian background.
Ryan
700+ posts, 20 pages on Shakerundras!
50+ posts about non-Shakerundras!
540 of those posts are by one person..."erkme73". 3-4 others have posted hundreds as well. BTW, how'd your Silverado buyback go? I heard you got screwed on the miles. Oh well, I hear they've got all the bugs worked out on the 2001 Silverado. I guess you'll be pluckin' your money down on another lemorado!
Your too old to drive and have not even so much as sat in a Tundra. Try to keep whats left of your mind on things you know about, like them coffin nails you help make. You best keep to peddlin' your death sticks to the target group, that'd be the young folk now!
bco
"I have joined the ranks of the vibrating Tundra owners. At 13,000 miles I rotated the tires (back tires are now on the front). I got a slight shimmy @58-63mph. Took it to the dealer and had the front tires balanced. There is still a slight shimmy at the above speeds. My tires are 32 psi all the way around. I do not have any braking vibes or other problems. I'm going to jack up the front and check for tire runout and bulges. Incidently, when looking at the balance weights on the front tires, I cannot tell if anything was changed. Normally, you can see an outline of the dirt where a weight was removed."
bco
bco
thread: "TRD Suspension Bottoms Out?"
"Okay, here's an interesting one for you all.
I've done some research on the boards in regards to this topic, and I've seen other people with similar problems.
Here's the situation:
Yesterday afternoon (10/18/00), I went to the local Home Depot to get some gardening stuff. This gardening stuff comprised of 4 bags of mulch (60 lbs total), 2 75 lb bags of sand (150 lbs total), 4 fire extinguishers (for my home, my mom's home, my wife's car, and my Tundra), and 24 2 foot long edger bricks (about 600 lbs). Total weight is estimated at 810 lbs of payload, excluding myself (240lbs) and the fire extingushers (30lbs). Myself and the fire extinguishers included, this only is 1080 lbs.
Now, upon leaving Home Depot, I ran over 5 sets of speed bumps (rather, crawled over). Each time, my suspension in the rear bottomed out with a rather severe clunk. Payload was with the heaviest stuff (the edger bricks) towards the center of the truck, sand in the middle, and mulch in the back.
Confused, I parked the Tundra to the side, and reversed the load (bricks to the rear toward the tailgate, mulch and sand towards the cab). I ran over the same 5 speed bumps again and the suspension bottomed out just as badly.
So, since I will be hauling bricks and stuff, what helper spring/suspension upgrade do you all recommend ? The most I've ever hauled before this was about 300-400 lbs worth of furniture. I've seen the Firestone Air Springs, and the Hellwig suspension stuff...which one would you all recommend ? How easy was it to install ? Etc.
Thanks again.
Steve"
bco
"After logging 7400 mile in 3.5 weeks I have other
observations to make, some minor:
-Gas mileage sucks! But I knew that from the
get-go.
-The rear plastic hub-cap lugs tend to loosen
after long highway runs. I just snugged them down
and check them often.
-The 2WD (tires with E rating) will get stuck in
wet grass or soft sand, especially without load.
Trust me, it's embarrassing!
-The convenient cup holder vibrates a lot, drinks
require lids.
-I have decided that I don't like the 4 DR cab.
Although a convenience, it appears to lack
durability, and prone to future leaks. loading or unloading the back seat. QUESTION? Have others experienced similar
problems?
Robert Klein"
"I still haven't decided for sure if I want
to take a chance on getting another shaker. My
arbitration hearing was last Tuesday for requesting
a buy-back on my 2K Sierra. I drove a 2001
Silverado LT a few weeks ago and the steering wheel
vibrated badly at about 68 mph. I was very
disappointed, as I thought surely they had fixed
this problem by now."
gas mileage sucks? better than a tundra (or any comparably equipped full-size out there) how many folks buy a 285 hp full-sized truck for gas mileage anyhow?
plastic lugs on wheel caps? mine have been fine...you can hand-tighten them for pete's sake! rather have problems with that than have my legs chopped off each time i pause getting in my truck! LOL!
*** news flash for those driving 2wd trucks*** ...your rear wheels will tend to slip more easily on wet grass, in soft sand, and in snowy or icy conditions...
how many people do you REALLY think are surprised about that statement?
vibrating cupholders? uh...ok, i guess i'll concede that one (though it's not a problem i've heard much about)...LOL 'bout as big a problem as the premature (less than 400 miles in some cases) armrest wear in your tundra.
four door extended cab: "appears to lack durability, and prone to future leaks" APPEARS? huh? ok...looks like all major truck makers screwed the proverbial pooch on that one...doh!
say...what about johnny home depot who's TuRD suspension bottomed out as he "crawled" over speed bumps with a whopping 1080 pounds in his bed? guess he needs to be heading up that 28 degree grade with 18 people in the truck for that not to happen, eh? LOL!!!
bco
Tried to get the dealer to install the 2001 seat fix and was told "your 2000 was built that way"! If one takes that statement one step futher then why is Toyota even attempting to fix warped rotors, bad break pads and other vibration problems when "it was built that way"!
Go figure.... I won't give up till it is fixed!"
or...
"My Tundra vibrates intermittently. Some days it does it and can go a couple of days without, unless I do the following. Take truck up to 56-64 mph on a straight road and let go of the steering wheel. More than likely you will notice the steering wheel shimmy at some point. When there isn't a more noticable vibration, this test will rear the ugly vibration problem. This was the case for the 2001 "loaner" Tundra I drove as well as my own when it seems ok. Hope your vibs are gone! Don't need another member to the vibrating Tundra club...."
bco
Phelps - "Your mission - should you decide to accept it is to act like a total fool."
B.C.O. - "Mission accomplished!"
It wasn't too much of a stretch for him - he doesn't even know what ideological means much less how to spell it. Maybe he isn't acting.
vehicle-99 c1500 ex cab, 3 dr, 5.3L, 460 trans,
3.73 dif, 75r16 tires at 44 psi, rated to tow 8200.
problem (1); launch shudder.
when connected to 7200lb fifthwheel (wet), from
dead stop to 8 to 10 mph dashboard shudders
violentl,like will the guts fall out before the
dash tears off? above 8/10 mph problem disappears.
does not recur under any load or road conditions.
not temp relater-weather or engine coolant. road
surface - no impact.
history;
1200 mi, egr code reset, no problem found.
1500 mi, transmission self destructs, replaced
with factory new unit. launch shudder begins.
6 trips to local (selling) dealer with following
action.
replaced both rear springs and shackles
replaced all four tires
two trys at wedging pinion shaft angle
tried heavy shocks
replaced front spindles
all replacements same as original factory.
launch shudder continues......
problem (2) degraded performance
19000 mi egr code again.
outstate dealer clears code, reprograms computer
to retard timing, lower shift points, and who knows
what else ((?). local dealer refuses to reset
computer back to factory settings. says all are
within gm guide lines.
what was a strong pulling gutsy engine is now a
slug, trans down shifts continue on the slightest
grade as the tach heads for the red line.gas
mileage down two and one half mpg across the
board.local dealer has been kind, courteous, seems
to be honestly trying to help within gm rules
anyone outhere with similar problems ? fixes or
improvements? would especially like to hear from
anyone pulling rv trailers.
Come on BCO - I want to hear your damage control on this one. Or will you leave with your tail between your legs? Regretting opening up this can of worms - aren't you?
Marc
I ended up dumping my 1999 Sierra because I was sick of the little and somewhat bigger things that were going wrong and could never be repaired properly. The last straw was when I took it to the dealer to have the front/rear axle gear lubes changed and they didn't put the required synthetic lube in the rear axle. It was frustrating that I knew more about the truck than the dealer that was servicing it! If you want more details of all the stuff I'll be happy to pass it along. But since I'm no longer a GMC truck owner I'm not sure if you want my input or not. Let me know!
Bob Ross - a Former 1999 GMC Sierra 4X4 extended cab owner.
I purchased a new 1999 C1500 Silverado about a year ago. It developed numerous problems including a vibration that could not be fixed. Gm decided a buyback was there ultimate fix! Of course I agreed. Three weeks ago I purchased a 2000 Silverado. So far, with 200 miles on it, they have replaced the differential carrier, all bearings, some gears & one rear brake rotor. After the fix I ran it up to 70 mph, for the first time, to check for vibration and found tires out of balance. Also, the weather strip at the upper rear of the right rear door does not contact the door, the gap is approx. .015- .020". Doors can not be adjusted! Another discovery, With engine at idle (500rpm) and the air-condition compressor running, the oil dipstick is in resonance, vibrating with an amplitude of approx. .400". At this rate it won't be long before metal fatigue sets in and it snaps off. I'm wondering what's to come? Sorry I bought it. The ride is not as good as it was with the 99. There are numerous transient vibrations.
Milt
Just thought you like to know about the problems I'm having with my 2000 Silverado ext. cab 2wd with 6500 miles. First of all I have vibration or what I would call dithering at all speeds on any surface that is not perfectly smooth. It is more noticeable a 35 - 45 mph range, but is noticeable at all speeds. All four tires were out of tolerance, dealer ordered tires twice before getting tires in tolerance, still no change. The dealer then load balanced all four tires, still no change. Next they shaved all four tires, rides a little better an smooth surfaces but still no change on rough pavement. The other problems I'm having are rattles in the dash, premature engagement of the ABS (especially on rough surface stops), rough idle, whining in the steering when turning left, drivers seat fabric is loose. I have had my truck in for service 5 times now for this and still no change. Going back in on Thursday for the same problems with probably the same answer, tires out of balance and normal conditions, not acceptable for a new $27,000 truck. I also had a bad vibration at 30 mph, the fix was a new drive shaft original one was out of round. 30 mph vibration fixed at 3000 miles after which I started having all these other problems. GM better get on the ball and admit these tucks have problems. Reported my problems with the BBB last week. Please feel free to email me with any new info you might come across, for know I'll keep trying my dealer. Wish I had my 91 sport back. Unhappy Silverado owner.
Scott Simpson
Be careful with this one now!
By James R. Healey and Earle Eldridge, USA TODAY
High-profile first-year vehicles are arriving to showrooms with disturbing quality problems, according to a private report to automakers by J.D. Power and Associates, the industry's best-known marketing and consulting firm.
Despite the industry's computer-design technology, getting the first ones right "continues to be a challenge," the annual report says. The results were compiled from questionnaires mailed to tens of thousands of buyers who were asked to document quality problems, from minor squeaks to engine failures, during the first 90 days of ownership.
Mechanical problems reported in the survey would have been fixed under warranty; some problems, though, were design complaints that would not have been fixed.
These redesigned '99s slipped furthest in quality when compared with the models they replaced: Honda Odyssey minivan, Porsche 911 sports car, Jeep Grand Cherokee sport-utility, Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups.
The report is in an executive summary of the 1999 Initial Quality Study sent only to automakers and obtained by USA TODAY.
According to Power, Odyssey had 64% more problems than the van it replaced. The 911 had 41% more problems than its predecessor; Grand Cherokee, 29%; Sierra, 23%; and Silverado, 22%.
ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!
"I have joined the ranks of the vibrating Tundra
owners. At 13,000 miles I rotated the tires (back
tires are now on the front). I got a slight shimmy
@58-63mph. Took it to the dealer and had the front
tires balanced. There is still a slight shimmy at
the above speeds. My tires are 32 psi all the way
around. I do not have any braking vibes or other
problems. I'm going to jack up the front and check
for tire runout and bulges. Incidently, when
looking at the balance weights on the front tires,
I cannot tell if anything was changed. Normally,
you can see an outline of the dirt where a weight
was removed."Robbie, you are no longer trying to convince me. Look in the mirror bubba.
Now there is a truck man!
- Tim
Ryan
Phelps - "Your mission - should you decide to
accept it is to act like a total fool."
Bama, Rwell, Toyunone - "Mission accomplished!"
It wasn't too much of a stretch for him - he
doesn't even know how to do anything besides cut and paste. Maybe he isn't acting.
ROTFLMFAO!!!
bco
say, who was it that said he liked the tundra bed shallow so it was easier to reach his fishing pole and stuff? it was that salesman guy...what was his name? anyways, it all makes sense now, cuz the thing obviously can't haul 1000 pounds!!!
LOLOLOLOL!!!