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I've owned many many other different makes and models and they consistently gave me within 10% of the CITY number only (except my Dodge Dakota which was WAY below!).
Just goes to show you, experiences vary greatly.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
What kind of explorer are we talking about here? For instance, if I look at an '03 XLS AWD, its got a 4 liter V6 with 210 hp and carrying 4400 lbs of vehicle. The Pilot, in contrast, also carries 4400 lbs and has over 240 hp. To get the same mileage in these 2 vehicles is to be expected, and even favorable towards the Honda given its increased output.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
City wise we only get 13-14, but we live where there are a lot of hills and my wife has a lead foot!
tom
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I suggest going to the dealer with all the kids and trying it out.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
The Pilot and Explorer are roughly equivalent in size.
I'm not sure why you're assessing that the Pilot is more comfortable than the Odyssey. In general, the Odyssey is the more comfortable people hauler, rides better, is quieter, and gets better gas mileage. The Pilot provides a bit of SUV utility for towing, off-road, and inclement weather driving. If you don't need the SUV capabilities of the Pilot and you're most interested in hauling your family around, the Odyssey will do a better job.
- Mark
My 1994 Explorer got 15-16 mile/gal, not comparable to Pilot.
I'm pretty happy with the Pilot.
Sometimes there is just no predicting what you will get.
Take, for instance, my wife's last 2 vehicles. When she would drive the PIlot, she'd get 20-21 compared to me driving it around town and getting about 17. In her Pacifica, I get 19 while she gets 16-17. One would think that she'd get better mileage than me in any vehicle. Turns out that's just not true. So you just never know.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
As for comfort for kids, This was the first long trip with my 17 year old and 12 year old -
after three years of travelling in an 04 Quest.
Bottom line, and no surprise here, if you want passenger comfort and room, a minivan is the way to go. The Quest was a foot longer and we were always able to pile up the back and still have the three rows accessible, with each kid having their own row. I'm 5'11" and was able to stretch my leg out completely in the middle row. The Pilot is reasonably comfortable in the middle row, the third row is for emergency use only- the seat is very low and there is no room.
As a driver, I like the pilot, but do find the front leg room to be lacking, maybe it's that strangely place foot rest, but it is tolerable. I did the return trip of 3.5 hours and it was tolerable. (I drove nearly 10 hours in the Quest with little discomfort.)
But it handles nicely, I like the ground clearance and AWD, the stereo has excellent sound, and as an end-of-year closeout, the price could not be beat in it's class.
The video screen dims when you turn the lights on, though, at least it did for the connected xbox.
We plan to use the 4WD Pilot for the winter trips skiing locally and around Tahoe. Because Calfornia enforces chain control on snowy roads, I hope to avoid what happened last year on one trip to Tahoe--driving the Odyssey the last 40 miles or so on snowchain cables. Because I used to own a 14-year-old 4Runner, last year driving to the local ski area I avoided chains probably 12 of the 15 times. Hopefully the the 4WD "lite" of the Pilot will get me over icy roads and the hub deep, spring mud freshets of the access road.
For me and for the money, the Odyssey is a much more practical family vehicle. Got to love those electric doors, too!
- Mark
installing Dynamat on the front driver and
passenger floors ? If so, did it work ? How
much was it ? Any issues installing ?
And... are there alternatives to Dynamat that
work ?
Thanks !
I wish you can slide the middle row back more to make additional leg room.
- Mark
Honda Pilot
tidester, host
But this is only my best guess.
Odie
Odie's Carspace
Thanks..
Odie
Odie's Carspace
Link to my video.
http://www.carspace.com/videos/play!id=.59cc5481
Again, thank you to everyone who views it. I tried to do 'The Beast' some justice in the video. I also wish the sound would have come through with my daughter at the end, she say's "Give 5 stars, please." She was so proud of herself and loves going off-road with daddy.
Odie
Odie's Carspace
Odie
Odie's Carspace
The new version is up. See how you like this one.
Odie
Odie's Carspace
Your problem sounds VERY similar to mine. Here is how it goes for my 2006 2WD Pilot. I can be driving between 45-70 mph and as I reach my cruising speed I ever so slightly back off the gas pedal to hold my speed. Suddenly a very low frequency noise, similar to a truck running on knobby tires begins to resonate in the car. I can ever so slightly speed up or slow down and the noise disappears. I have now noticed my problem only occurs when I have some weight in the back of the car. Once it happened with 2 in the front seat and one person about 200 pounds in the right side second row seat. This weekend it happened with 4 adults and about 150 pounds of cargo. Honda Pilot has under 4000 miles. V6 engine with the economy 3 cyl shut off engine.
YaY!
TIA,
Spyder.