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Next Generation Infiniti G35? When?
lookinaround1
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When will infiniti update the g35.
In comparison to the technology of the 2006 3 series, I think the g35 is starting to look a little old. (I also think that the interior lacks the character that the bimmer and a4 have.) Audi is also redesigning the a4 in '08. So, when will infiniti do a complete redesign and show us the next generation?
In comparison to the technology of the 2006 3 series, I think the g35 is starting to look a little old. (I also think that the interior lacks the character that the bimmer and a4 have.) Audi is also redesigning the a4 in '08. So, when will infiniti do a complete redesign and show us the next generation?
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Was that the BMW 3 series with the 24 carat gold body frame painted in black?
Who of sound mind would buy a non-M 3 series for 57k?
Doesn't mean it's not kinda silly though...
The G isn't bad, just a little too firm for my tastes.
I think a BMW is a bit more than a nicer interior?
If you prefer performance over gizmos, then a BMW 330 with minimal options does not cost much more than a TL. But if you prefer gizmos more than RWD performance then a TL with all its standard features would be your answer.
To each their own! My preference would be a spartan option-free BMW 330!
That was not what I was saying.
A comparably equipped BMW330 to a G35 or TL will definitely not be comparable.
My point was that if your priority is to have a car with benchmark performance/handling and you dont care so much for the standard equipment offered on a G35 and TL, then a option-free BMW330 would be preferable.
That is precisely why my top pick as a next car will be a plain vanilla BMW330i!
Unless ofcourse the next generation G35 improves substantially then a G35 would be my first choice.
They are too small, both in terms of length and width. For the driver, the high sides and oddly positioned seat controls are uncomfortable. Also, the hard surface of the inner door hurts your left knee if you lean it against the door (which is how I and many other people drive).
I get the feeling the seat engineers were 5'4" 120 lb. Japanese men!
That aside, I do love the car. But if they want to sell more, I think fixing those common complaints are the most cost efficient improvements they could make for 2006.
Infiniti, are you listening?!?
Hopefully they've traded in all their 2004 G35s for 2005 G35s...
I think we are a bit off topic since we are talking about the future G35. But here are my three cents worth on the current G35.
G35 cant compared to a BMW330. Maybe a 325 but not a 330. If you honestly think that having merely more hp means better performance/handling then I can understand why you think the G35 is a better car. And the handling of a G35 is not even close to a 06 BMW330, let alone a 05 BMW330.
http://automobilemag.com/reviews/sedans/0508_bmw_325i/
Check out the test drives by recent auto mags that compares a BMW330 vs. a G35. I believe either August's R&T or Automobile magazines compares the G35 vs. the BMW330.
But what others say is not of any importance. You have to test drive the 06 BMW 330 and G35 within the same day to fully understand that a G35 is not at all comparable to the Bimmer. I've had the experience and so did the test drivers in various auto mags and the conclusion is the same among everyone!(except a few G35 diehards who dont want to be confused with facts)
The key improvement for the future G35 is not performance but handling.
Then it's reasonable to conclude that a 3 series can't be compared to a G35. Although the 3 series has slightly better handling, the engine is inferior to the G35. Can we agree that the 3 series falls short in power to the G35, as the G35 falls short to the 3 series in handling? They negate one another. I find the handling of my 05 G35 to be very impressive, but still short of the 3 series. And I'm sure you find the power of your 3 series to be impressive, yet it still falls short of the power on the G35. But at the end of the day, is the 3 series worth the extra 6 to 10K? That is the point.
I read every comparison test for this class of cars I could get my hands on and the G35 was the biggest winner. For example, road and track compared sports sedans and had the G35 in first place and the 330i in second. They said the 330i has a little better feel to it but it is not sufficiantly better for the difference in price. Similarly another test by car and driver compared manual shift sedans of around 35 k and also gave the top honors to the infiniti g35 (a bmw 325 was second the 330i would not qualify for the test due to a high sticker price).
And every magazine comparisson i have read does not really say that the bmw handles better but that it has a little better feel to it. I.e. the steering wheel feels better it has a nice oversteer, etc. Which essentially means that as far as pure performance the G35 does just as well or better. But the BMW is more refined.
Unfortunately I was not able to test drive the 330i since the bmw dealer in my city was quite rude, but I recently bought a g35 and honestly I cannot understand how the bmw can handle significantly better. My car has always been perfect on all turns without any sign of understeer or oversteer and no body lean whatsoever. Of course it is logicaly possible that the 330i handles better than that, but I dont know why I would need a better handling car since the G35 has given me no problem in cornering so far. And I have thrown it into some very sharp turns.
BTW I have a 6 speed manual coupe.
"All of this adds up to a car that runs smoothly, feels wonderfully safe and secure on the road, and drives with a rare precision. As our exclusive test numbers show, it is also very quick for a less-than-$40,000 compact sports sedan: 0 to 60 mph in 5.6 seconds and the standing quarter-mile in 14.3 seconds at 98 mph."
I Repeat 0-60 in 5.6 seconds for the 330i. Can the G35 accomplish this?
If anybody honest believes more hp automatically translates into better performance then that person will never understand how a lower hp BMW remains a benchmark performance car!
Where on earth have you dug up your C&D data? Just dont tell me that comparison is on the dated e46 BMW 3 series? Why dont we just focus on the 06 3 series because that is the current car!
6-10k more expensive. Have you seen the base price for the 330i. Does not come close to 6-10k premium!
Well I should at least note that the number given by C and D is indeed impressive but it does not even match the number on the official BMW website which is a half a second slower. Now one would would think that the BMW professional drivers would be able to get the most out of their own car, and the BMW marketing would want to put in the best numbers on the website.
I think the discrepancy may have been due to the fact that C and D tested a Eurospec car (they say so in the article) which may have been more powerfull than the US version for various reasons.
I would like to focus on the 06 3 series and 05 g35 but the magazines have not done any comparisons between them yet. Keep in mind that the older compaisons were also based on an older version of the g36 which was about 18 hp less powerfull than the current one.
6-10k is just my personal experience. I was able to get the infiniti dealer to go below MSRP, while the BMW dealer was quoting some ridicoulosly high prices without a shade of embarassment. I believe if I had to buy a 330i I would probably have to pay at least 6k more than what i paid for my g. But that is just my experience.
I am sure the BMW is a fine car and once you get down to it it may be even a little better than the G. But to say that the 330i is sooo much better that it is beyond comparison is incorrect.
I know there is more to accelaration than bhp but the G has those other things -- RWD, fast short throw stick, limited slip diff., low end torque, tires bigger than 330i's, etc.
I really like the BMWs and would probably have gotten one before I even knew what a g35 was, if I had better experience at the dealership.
G35: 5.8s ($34k tested price)
330i: 6.1s ($42k tested price)
CTS: 6.5s
Same track, same drivers, same conditions. G35 was faster.
R&T (August) 330i 6MT road test:
330i: 6.2s
All U.S. spec vehicles.
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No review I've read says that the handling of the 330i is so much better than the G35 that the two cars cannot be compared. Mostly, they say that the 330i gets the nod in handling, but not by that much.
0-60 MPH
G35 - 5.8 Sec
330i - 6.1 Sec
CTS - 6.5 Sec
0-100 MPH
G35 - 14.4 Sec
330i - 16.0 Sec
CTS - 16.7 Sec
1/4 Mile
G35 - 14.4 @ 100 MPH
330i - 14.7 @ 97 MPH
CTS - 15.1 @ 95 MPH
Top Speed
G35 - 155 MPH
330i - 149 MPH
CTS - 140 MPH
Braking 70-0 MPH
G35 - 157 FT
330i - 162 FT
CTS - 168 FT
Braking Peak-G
G35 - 1.13 G
330i - 1.09 G
CTS - 1.06 G
Cornering-G
330i - 0.95/0.93
G35 - 0.92/0.89
CTS - 0.87/0.85
The 330i was running on max performance summer Bridgestone Potenza RE050A, while the G35 was running on performance all-season Goodyear Eagle NCT-5.
The 330i still won the comparo based on its somewhat better handling feel and better interior.
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R&T results for the 2006 330i 6MT:
0-60 MPH: 6.2s
0-100 MPH: 16.9s
1/4 mile: 14.9 @ 94.1 MPH
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Anyway, rumors in Japan say that the next Skyline (G35) sedan might get a 3.8 VQ producing 330hp. Of course, just a rumor.
Having said that I do think the future G35 has a good chance in beating the BMW330 and becoming the benchmark car for performance/handling!
But that is assuming Infiniti does not take the route Lexus did with the IS. The IS is more cushy, insulated and refined than the older IS, but unfortunately it is less of a true sport sedan than the 01 IS.
If I was confronted with such a price difference, I would definitely not buy a BMW.
I just got new Nokian snow tires for my 99 BMW323 and hope to drive my car until the new G35 arrives. Or buy whatever car becomes the benchmark sport sedan, whatever that will be?
Fine reporting. I don't think you, myself or anyone else on this thread is bashing the 330. The point that is being made is that the G35, as a package, is the winner in the sports sedan market. The G35 is just the right mix of style, performance, handling & value. Sure, Infiniti could throw another 6 to 10K at the G and make it the best of the best, but that might jeopardize sales.
dewey,
Good luck with your 330, but please don't consider it better than a G35.
So even though the G35 came out in the States in 2002, it is possible that the next G35 could come here in 2006 as a 2007 model.
Well that's just one man's opinon.
The G35 is a better deal. That's enough for me.
Too bad its too small on the inside for my family. That's where the I35 wins.
That backseat is cramped! :P
Hence why I like my I35.