Hyundai Sonata vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry vs. Ford Fusion

baggs32 · January 2006

Ford needs to have a low priced model to sell to fleets, perhaps, and the SAB aren't a priority to companies keeping tabs on a bottom line?

Just a thought.

Makes sense. However if they do follow the lead of Mazda, as in the 6, the base I4 would not come standard with SACs. That would be perfect for fleets and Joe consumer alike.

I guess realistically it really doesn't matter to me. I'd like to see ABS and SACs standard on everything but either way I'm going to pay for them when I buy. My 6 does not have SACs because it was hard enough finding a V6 with an MTX let alone one with SAC's back in early 2004. I bit the bullet and took what I could get for my S-Plan. The Ford salesman I deal with already committed to allowing me to Factory order my Mustang at the end of this year and still get X-Plan pricing because I was concerned that those are still really hard to find with an MTX, and nearly impossible to find with SABs. You can bet the ABS and SAB boxes will be checked on that order sheet. Together, and with traction control added in, those "necessary" options will cost me about $600. Well worth it IMO.

stockmanjoe · January 2006

Wouldn't be too sure about that. Yes Hyuhdai has alot of other interests as they are a very powerful company but not the least among them is their vehicle line.

They are are making great strides with the Sonata, Elantra and other new vehicles. This is just their first salvo, stand by for their counter and followon attacks attacks already in prgress!!!

stockmanjoe · January 2006

I think 300 - 500 below invoice before rebates is the best you could do. They are desparate to sell but much more than that would cause too big a loss for them. But heck you can try!!!

stockmanjoe · January 2006

Don't buy a Ford.

stockmanjoe · January 2006

Boring looking? I think the 2006 Sonata is one of the sharpest cars out and a great improvement over the 2005 (which may not necessarily be saying much). I have a dark cinnamon model got the windows tinted dark and have had several people (unsolicited) tell me how great it looks. One guy was in a Volvo V70 admiring my car. I think they look like the Audi A6. A buddy of mine likes the looks better than his Accord.

I dropped my wife's Honda Pilot off at the Honda dealership for servicing and parked my 2006 Hyundai Sonata right in front of the big service window (OK I did it on purpose). Recently waxed, tinted windows etc. I saw five or six salesmen huddles around obviously discussing it. I don't know what they were saying they looked worried and they certainly weren't laughing at it!! LOL!!

You guys are stuck on Gargonzola and it is clearly Brie time baby! Honda and Toyota step aside!!! I love to see the giants fall!!

jimmy81 · January 2006

The Elantra is an aweful looking vehicle. You have to not give a spit about looks if you buy one of those.

The Sonata is a great car, but it too is unappealing. Wouldn't take much to turn it into a looker.

jojoe · January 2006

Hmmmmmmmm...and do we all remember,beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I bet the girl of your dreams isn't the girl of mine or anyone elses and who cares! I personally like the looks of the Sonata ,I think it looks awesome.I personally don't like the look of the Accord,Camry or Fusion.Now saying that,I have my own views of what is nice looking,my likes and dislikes won't be that of the next person.Then I don't really care.I am not a follower as many folks are.I like something different and I am always willing to take a chance,if I see something I like.You know what I mean(SOMETHING I LIKE).I as many in here don't care if folks such as you don't like our choice of vehicle,but it does seem that you have a problem if we don't agree with yours.Well we really don't care about that either.You go ahead and be a devotee of your brand,we will of ours.What you choose doesn't make you any better or more special than us,even though you might think it does.

thegraduate · January 2006

Hmmmmmmmm...and do we all remember,beauty is in the eye of the beholder! I bet the girl of your dreams isn't the girl of mine or anyone elses and who cares! I personally like the looks of the Sonata ,I think it looks awesome.I personally don't like the look of the Accord,Camry or Fusion.Now saying that,I have my own views of what is nice looking,my likes and dislikes won't be that of the next person.Then I don't really care.I am not a follower as many folks are.I like something different and I am always willing to take a chance,if I see something I like.You know what I mean(SOMETHING I LIKE).I as many in here don't care if folks such as you don't like our choice of vehicle,but it does seem that you have a problem if we don't agree with yours.Well we really don't care about that either.You go ahead and be a devotee of your brand,we will of ours.What you choose doesn't make you any better or more special than us,even though you might think it does.

This is very true. I personally think that all four of the cars here are handsome, if not breathtaking. No midsize sedan should be polarizing in its style (if it wants to sell high volumes). I feel that the Fusion went out on a limb with some of its exterior details, and most of those paid off (the best looking Ford sedan in YEARS). Hyundai, Accord, and Camry are all fairly bland IMO. The Sonata took the 03 Accord's rear and stuck it on the Sonata (especially taillights). The Camry makes me sleepy to look at! The Accord has a much nicer looking rear with the 06 redesign, and adds a touch of class with the LED taillights (offered on the more upscale cars like Azera).

While I'm talking tail lights, I was very dissappointed to see that Ford still hasn't made a seperate blinker from the brakelight/taillight. The one bulb shares all three functions. Just seems like a cheap out to me, and I personally feel that having a seperate brakelight and blinker is safer (Just my opinion, not necessarily yours).

Have a good MLK day tomorrow!

thegrad

stockmanjoe · January 2006

I had an English teacher back in High School that used to mark us down on papers when we used the term "in my opinion". She said that it was redundant to use it because you are the one writing/saying it so it is obviously your opinion.

stockmanjoe · January 2006

Joe you are right on. I hate going with the crowd. I saw the Sonata as different and that appealed to me. It also gets stolen alot less!

jojoe · January 2006

Lol.Never thought of it that way.As far as choosing a new vehicle,my wife and I had never any intentions on even thinking about an Accord or Camry,we thought for all the years they have been around,they still didn't appeal to us,very bland design.We would have never thought of the Fusion,due to the fact that it is a Ford(had too many problems with past Fords)now saying that,I was in one and thought it didn't look all that bad,but not even a close second to the Sonata.We have now had ours for 5 months and havn't any problems so far.To us,its a great family car and sports car all in one.To each their own.

w9cw · January 2006

Re. the Elantra's looks . . . As always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But, I've never bought cars on looks anyway, as I don't care whatsoever what other people think. The only person I have to impress in life is myself. I choose a car based on many other factors than its appearance.

goodegg · January 2006

I've never bought cars on looks anyway

Wow - really? Looks is one of the top criteria for me in a car. Sure I want performance, safety, reliability etc but I want that package looking good. I don't think the Sonata is all that stylish, but neither is the Accord. Honda needs to do a restyle quickly or their Accord sales will continue to slide. And I'm not talking about just redoing the tail lights.

Yea you shouldn't have to worry about impressing anybody with a car purchase. But that doesn't mean you gotta go down the boring road all the time. Life is short. Live it up!

jojoe · January 2006

But....whats boring to one ,is not boring to another.Theres some pretty ugly cars out there,someone is driving them and thinking they are pretty awesome looking.

sonatame · January 2006

I looked at all the models style and performance and the Sonata was the only one that came with all the options I desired without nickel and diming me to death. Would I have bought the 2005 Sonata, No. I guess looks are important to me and I have had both the Accord and Sonata parked next to each other in the garage and depending on if you like Audi styling (Sonata) or Beamer styling (Accord), they both are nice looking cars. The Accord will give you whiplash on take off if you have a heavy foot and the Sonata 17" wheels really hold the road well. The hardest part of buying a 2006 Sonata was getting over the Hyundai name. After watching the neighbors stare at the car and people admiring it in parking lots, the Hyundai name does not bother me anymore. Actually, other than their labor disputes in Korea they are a pretty sound company.

goodegg · January 2006

I don't think many people are confusing the Sonata for an Audi. Nor an Accord for a BMW.

I do think Hyundai would benefit from pulling a DatsunToNissan move. They build a decent car now but their negative reputation in many circles precedes them.

stockmanjoe · January 2006

I agree with Leadfoot that Hyundai's rep wasn't the best in the past but neither was Toyota or Honda for that matter. They never changed their names.
Nissan changed to Datsun because the name Nissan was so recognized with the Japanese war machine, our arch enemy, not long before. After memories had faded more they went back to Nissan.
No they should stick with Hyundai and do exactly what they are doing inprove styling and quality. It is too soon now, but in the future they need to have a luxury plate name Lexus, Infiniti, Acura etc.

thegraduate · January 2006

Sorry, after writing on a couple of other forums (i.e. Jetta) I am so used for being criticized for saying something negative about another car unless I said it was my opinion. Apperently over there, they think people who don't worship Volkswagen's are idiots, so I have to talk to a few of them like that...

I'll try to remember how much more mature this discussion is when I post next time...thanks for keeping me in check.

stockmanjoe · January 2006

The Graduate:

Everybody seems to use the "IMO" for some reason. I bet ole Mrs. Bishop is rolling in her grave! It's funny how you remember advice like that from way back in High School!

Stockmanjoe

iluvmysephia1 · January 2006

Americans are to recognize that Hyundai has completely turned their ship around. So has Kia.

I recognized it back in 1999(aren't we in, like, 2006, man), only after driving my Sephia with 70,000 mile Yokohama radials and Konig Diva wheels. That car was really fun to drive with the improved handling the Yokohama's afforded me. I paid a whopping $7995 for the Sephia in 5-speed form in May of 1999. What car did I dump for the 1999 Kia Sephia sedan? It was none other than a 1997 Ford Escort sedan. Not a bad car but uninspired. The Sephia was fun to drive.

With my '01 Kia Sportage I gained 4WD, which has helped me get out of more than one tight icy spot in both Missouri and Idaho winters. The SUV has consistently shown me that it is a tough little truck that will give and keep giving and keep giving.

Why people can't think beyond Audi, Toyota, Honda, Chrysler and BMW is beyond me. The future is all South Korean for automobiles. I am glad that I didn't listen to other people. That would have been a huge mistake.

pat · January 2006

Heh, well, this is not high school English, and if it were, your high school English teacher would be rolling over in her grave over a whole lot more than people adding or not adding "in my opinion" to a post.

The reality is that adding IMO or, waay better, IMHO, to a post that is opinion makes it far more palatable to a reader who might not agree with said opinion. To leave that disclaimer off makes it appear that the poster believes him or herself to be posting pure "facts". And when that happens, those who might disagree with the posted non-disclaimed opinion get quite annoyed at the seeming arrogance of the declaration and all heck breaks loose ...

So let's not worry about Mrs. Bishop's admonition and keep faith with the usual message board etiquette here.

And that would include getting back to the comparison at hand ...

carguy58 · January 2006

"I guess looks are important to me and I have had both the Accord and Sonata parked next to each other in the garage and depending on if you like Audi styling (Sonata) or Beamer styling (Accord), they both are nice looking cars.

The Accord does not look like a Beamer in my opinion. Honda and BMW used to have similar styling themes in the 80's and 90's but not anymore. Your right on the Sonata though it does some Audi flavor to its style.

carguy58 · January 2006

"Boring looking? I think the 2006 Sonata is one of the sharpest cars out and a great improvement over the 2005 (which may not necessarily be saying much)."

You should have read my post more carefully I put the sentence about the Sonata being boring looking in quotes because I was replying to another post that said the Sonata was boring looking. In response to the post that said the Sonata was boring looking I said the Sonata looked good in "black color".

carguy58 · January 2006

"Mazda smallest in width, length, horsepower (by 29-54 hp or) AND economy, lower crash test results, old (relative) styling (since 2002, nothing has changed) in quick changing market."

Ok lets pick apart your post one by one:

Didn't CR rank the 6 a couple years ago best in class in crash test results?

Styling:Nothing has changed since 2002: Uh the Camry and accord looks better than the 6? The Altima came out a year before of the 6 and you are going to say how the 6's styling hasn't changed since 2002? BTW, the 6 was new for the 2003 model year in the US.

in quickly changing market: what quickly changing market? The Altima was new for 2002 model year as was the Camry and the Accord was new for the 2003 model year as was the 6. Just recently the a new Passat, new Fusion and new Sonata have come out as 06 models.

HP: The 6 has a 2.3 liter 4 cyl engine that makes 160 HP and you think its weak? 220 HP is no slouch either in the V6.

Finally, I am not trying to go at you directly in my response to your post but I was just answering some of your issues that you picked out that the 6 has in its class that its competing in. I;m with you 100% on the issue of interior room though.

"Mazda's 6 is a great car with great handling, it just isn't what everyone looks for when shopping for a family car."

I agree with you there.

carguy58 · January 2006

"Honda needs to do a restyle quickly or their Accord sales will continue to slide. And I'm not talking about just redoing the tail lights."

Your right Honda should push up the release of the 08 Accord. The new Camry is coming out in a couple months. Yeah sure the Camry may not look all that stylish but its one of the best selling cars in America. I should also add in a new Altima maybe on the market before the next generation Accord comes out as well.

thegraduate · January 2006

Yeah sure the Camry may not look all that stylish but its one of the best selling cars in America. I should also add in a new Altima maybe on the market before the next generation Accord comes out as well.

The Altima SHOULD be out before the next generation Accord, especially since the current one debuted as a 2002 model. Perhaps they spent too much on the interior upgrades for the 2005+ models? The 02-04 Altimas were PITIFUL inside IMO.

The current Camry, although a yawn, is better looking on the outside than the 2007 model. The inside is a different story, however. Very nice 07 Camry interiors all-around.

sonatame · January 2006

When I referred to the Honda shaped similar to the Beamer it is a body line higher in the back and lower in the front versus the even keil of the Audi, Altima and Sonata. Honda's big sister Accura is the one that uses molds to look closer to the beamer.

For those who wrote about Sonatas in rental fleets, I am renting one right now from BWI Avis. It is a V-6 GLS. I have to admit it is much more comfortable than the Grand Prix I was expecting to pick up.

stockmanjoe · January 2006

Well Pat lets jusy say IMO (just so you understand its not necessarily yours or somebody else's opinion - I guess). It is redundant but if it helps not to hurt some of these "manly man's" feelings out there I guess it just makes for that much of a kind and gentler world. Mrs. Bishop would approve of that too

hallistered · January 2006

somehow this has completely drifted away from the fusion

thegraduate · January 2006

somehow this has completely drifted away from the fusion

Just like buyers do!

**The above is a completely baseless statement, and intended for humor purposes only. This joke was too easy not to pass up, though not that funny.

(Gets serious)

My sincere apologies to the Ford crowd.

thegrad

grandaddy · January 2006

I am always happy to see a new competitor enter the fray...but...I am not surprised that the v6 Sonata was able to edge out the i4 Accord and Camry. I wonder how they would have stacked up had all three been equipped with v6 engines or all with i4 engines.

I am aware of the pricing considerations but the test seemed just a little unfair and misleading to me.

sonatame · January 2006

Most of the testing I have seen compares the Honda V6EX and the top Camry versus the top Sonata. Even Hyundai on their website compare apples to apples. In all that I have seen Honda and Hyundai battle for 1 & 2 with Camry a very close 3. When you look at all the data there is very little difference between them other than price. I think most reviewers are in shock when they jump into the new Sonata which gives it the benefit of the doubt in overall rating. I looked at all of them and purchased the Sonata over the others. My fiance has the Accord and we like it too, but we both agree that for the money the Sonata is the better deal. Remember when you met people who would not buy anything but a Ford, GMC or Chrysler because of their parent's influence or personal experience. Funny how things have changed and the foreign models (mostly made in USA)have become the favorites. Wonder what our kids will be toting as the supreme brand?

bhmr59 · January 2006

Pat, you control this forum and have criticized me, for which I apologized.

Now, my turn. "IMO" may be polite, but "IMHO" is ridiculous. Look up the word "humble" in the dictionary. If everyone is supposed to be equal on this forum, why should anyone be "humble" in responding to another's opinion? It is an unnecessary word, often used paradoxically to imply superiority on the part of the writer.

Anyway, that's what I think, IMHO. :>)

grandaddy · January 2006

I have to admit that I am intrigued by the Sonata and will give it a test drive in the future. Who knows, I may fall in love!!

driverdm · January 2006

That is my exact trouble witht the Sonata. I can drive it but I can't fall in love with it. You remember your first true love, way back when you didn't even know what love was? Remember that feeling of missing when you were away from her? That is what the Mazda6 is to me (scary I know). When I drive it, it teaches me all over again what love is (everyone, do not tell my girlfriend this or I will quickly find out what complaining is all over again). I have been to different Mazda boards and everyone feels the same way. The car creates joy. When you are late for work, all of a sudden it doesn't seem so bad. When you approach a curvy street, all of a sudden you thank God for small miracles. And when you look at the Mazda, it looks as good as any supermodel and ready to run like a bank robber or a marathon sprinter. That is what did it for me. The Sonata just didn't match up. I know, the Sonata is more pratical this and that and all the rest. I know the horsepower in the 6 this and that and all the rest. As a car review said "it feels faster than it is". I don't know how or why but it does. Drive the Sonata and then take a Mazda6 out for a spin and I mean a real spin. When you see a corner coming, hit the gas. Weave in and out of traffic like you have no sense. Above all things though, REMEMBER IT HAS TO GO BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP NOT YOUR HOUSE.

harrychezt · January 2006

1) Our 1999 was loaded with everything but ABS(also had leather, 8 way power seats) for a little under 18K, for a MSRP'd car of a little over 21K, in July of 1999.

We liked it. When we started it, we literally had to roll down the windows to hear if it turned over!
Was like this until the day we traded it for a Scion tC, in Sept of 04.

We had issues, like turn signal stalk cracked in half at 85,000 miles. 25 dollars to fix it.
Alternatro failed at 103,000, water pump at 105,000, radiator leak at 113,000 miles(adn other nickel dime stuff "robbed us" of 2K, which was supposed to go to the house for work, that still is not done, unfortuantely...had other issues last year, and spent our tax returns on :mad: ).
We traded it in at 118,000. Still had issues.

2)Our 04 Sonata GLS-V6, Loaded minus ABS, cloth seats(not as good as the leather ones).( the 01 tiburon had 103,000 on it, and tranny was thisclose to death. Spouse was lucky to get 2 Hyundai lot with it. We got stuck buying the 04 Sonata. We took a few grand hit, tacked onto the Sonata, from tiburon, Luckily, the sonata was on a major sale.... I wanted to have achoice in what I buy, not be desperate, and stuck w/no choice) :mad: !
Manual 8 way seat adjuster( note: when I tested the I-4/2006 Sonata, it did nto have the 8 way, just 6, in GLS... the salesman tried to tell me'Sonata never had 8 way in GLS", until I SHOWED HIM! he practically choked!).

Anyhow... the 04 is cool in that it has the manushifter, which helps for passing, or slowing down the car faster, to brake(saves on wear n tear on brake pads).

But,NVH is worse than our 99.
Can hear the engine when ya start the car, every time. No need to roll down the windows to double-check , to see if it turned over, or not(like in the 99).
More NVH all around.
Can't lock the glovebox(minor issue, but the old GLS ya could, but then, it was the top model in 99, now the LX is top model). The mirros are Not folding/break away, like our 99's were.
Door lock does not illuminate green (around the lock) to light it up, at night, so ya don't scratch your door, like our 99 did.
They give ya less for more now?
:confuse:

The 06 was slightly quieter than my 170HP, 2.7 L v6 2004(the I-4), but still not on par of the 99(since they broough out the XG330, then XG350, now Azera....they do not want this model to be as quiet a it once was, so if ya got a few grand more to spend, ya may wanna go get the Azera, and make more $$$ for Hyundai's pocket?)/

Anyhow, it was ok, but that center stack is ugly.
The new 2006.5 Optima has a nicer interior.
Looks like a Buick, in an ok type of way.

Anyhow, people, it is late, and I gotta go.

I think I posted this stuff before, but, not sure.

Fusion was ok. I have tested the Malibu, G6 sedan, Fusion,
Sonata. To me, minus maybe one is safer, or a fewmore MPG, whatever, they are almost all the saem to me these days: Family sedans, that are decent, and do not cost a ton, especially when on sale.
Me? I am getting old, and want a Sports Tourer car:
Maybe the 09-10 Eclipse?
I only need 2 seats anyway these days!

goodegg · January 2006

That is my exact trouble witht the Sonata. I can drive it but I can't fall in love with it.

Exactly. Altho a nice all around package, nothing excites me about the Sonata.

zen2 · January 2006

Well, not everybody. I think the plastic grill looks
kind of tacky and fake. I'd put Honda first, Sonata, then Fusion, and Camry in terms of styling, period.

carguy58 · January 2006

You know I was thinking about this the other day but how many comparo's do you see that the Camry ever wins? The answer: hardly any. Its just funny the car doesn't win many comparo's(if any at all) but still sells like mad.

carguy58 · January 2006

"The 06 was slightly quieter than my 170HP, 2.7 L v6 2004(the I-4), but still not on par of the 99(since they broough out the XG330, then XG350, now Azera....they do not want this model to be as quiet a it once was, so if ya got a few grand more to spend, ya may wanna go get the Azera, and make more $$$ for Hyundai's pocket?)/"

I hardly even notice my car's road noise. When you are listening to the radio when you drive you don;t notice any road noise.

kdhspyder · January 2006

The heart of the market vs the periphery of the market. They've identified what the majority of American buyers want. Hyundai is doing a good job of duplicating that success. Vanilla sells.

Reasons to buy for the largest segment of the market:
reliability and economy ( it's why the 4c's are so popular)
styling ( this is very very subjective, but most Camry owners wouldnt be caught dead in a 300 )
price ( Camry is the price leader but it can't get too far out of line )
performance ( as long as it's anywhere near the pack it's OK )

ontop · January 2006

My exterior styling rank would be Fusion (in spite of the grill), Camry, Accord & Sonata (tied)

maxxer · January 2006

My order is Sonata,then the rest are all tied for third,havn't found anything that is second to the 2006 Sonata yet.Oh and I have driven them all and owned three of them.Still own two of them.Sonata tops them all.

goodegg · January 2006

The Sonata doesn't top the EXV6. Period. Yea I know the price difference.....

scape2 · January 2006

is all in opinion.
my vote is
Fusion, Honda, Jetta, G6, Sonata, Altima, Camry just to add a twist to the discussion..

As far as Fords new entry into this market, Fusion, Milan. I am a huge car buff. Have been since I was 12. I get out on the internet and read review after review of all types of cars/trucks/SUV's. I have been subscribing to Motor Trend for over 20 years, along with Car and Driver for over 15 now. I am not claiming this makes me an expert. However, I have to tell you. I have yet to read one really terrible article about the Fusion or Milan. Ford can be bashed all day long, I find this to almost be a norm with some groups. Ford has done its homework on these vehicles. Take a look around the net, read the reviews. There will always be those who hate Ford, as those who hate Honda, Hyundai ect...

chrisford · January 2006

My vote goes to Fusion, Altima, Sonata, Accord and Camry.

Some people just need to take the visors off and see the Fusion for what it really is, "One bitching mid-size that can go toe to toe with any import".

alpha01 · January 2006

Except, of course, in areas of V6 acceleration, interior quality/trim/ergonomics (though style is great!), and standard safety features. What? Integrated and useless rear head restraints!

All extremes aside, I had the opportunity to drive an SEL V6 recently, and was VERY impressed with the tight steering, compliant suspension, and seat comfort.

~alpha

kdhspyder · January 2006

The 2007 Camry

When the vehicle comes out it will make all the others start scrambling all over again.

As a 4 time camry owner I'm biased admittedly. I have been mildly impressed by the current model Camry '02-'06 because it's just OK in style and performance. The current Camry generation is a lot better performance-wise than my Camrys the latest of which was a 2000.

I'm speaking heree mainly about the 4c versions which are the bread and butter of the line. It's not the best of the 4c group ( Accord, Sonata and Camry ) by a long shot and it may be third but the differences arent that great. Styling & Features IMO

ehh. It probably deserves it's position of 3rd/4th. The V6, except the 3.3L in the SE, also a lukewarm .. ehh.

But you cant beat them for giving a driver the feel of driving a near-luxury vehicle at a blue collar price. That's what wins hearts and what Hyundai is seeming to emulate very well.

Now come March...
The 3.5L V6, pull-the-skin-off-your-face, Avalon/Lexus powerplant with 6-speed tranny and stupid V6 FE ratings will have every competitor scrambling to catch up just to be equal to the CAMRY??!! Who'd a thunk it?

Throw in a 40 mpg FE V6 for which there likely will be waiting lists for months, now you have an excitement and sizzle that the Camry has never had. A waiting list for a Camry??!! Get outta here.

The 4c LE trim will have all the safety features standard plus VSC/Trac as the first likely option, all at the same price as the previous models, including a 6-disc changer. A 2006 model with these features would sticker for ~$23000. I'm guesstimating the new '07 LE will be in the the $22K, or lower, range. Add more features and drop the price. That sell vehicles.

Then put this all in the best looking package, IMO, the Camry has ever been in. It will again have the others scrambling for the next redesign.

Come March then the leaders in the key buying criteria are>> the envelopes please..
Reliability:.. Camry/Accord.... then Fusion/Sonata
Economy:.... Camry, 1st, 2nd and 3rd places
Safety & Features:.. Camry/Sonata, Accord
Styling:.... very very subjective, my vote is Camry, Fusion
Performance:.. Camry
Pricing:.... Sonata. In a different universe
Handling:.. Camry/Accord, Fusion or Accord/Camry, Fusion but TBD

Bang for your buck... It's your personal decision but there certainly is a lot more value across the product line now than there was last month.

stickguy · January 2006

I think you went a little far with your ratings. The Accord economy is somparable to the Camry, so it deserves at least 2nd place. And you really need to reevalute the handling catagory. Just put the Camry last and work up from there.

Performance? Accord runs with the Camry. Especially the V6 manual trans (oh wait, Camry doesn't offer ANY stick shifts... BOO)

kdhspyder · January 2006

Economy: the new '07
HSD 4c 39-41 combined.. off the chart
4c 29-30 combined.. 1st for the 4c
V6 26-28 Combined.. 1st for the V6's

Handling:
This is just about the new '07 which is why I put '..TBD.' They will have to run the SE V6 and see what happens. Now the '06 Camry is ..ehh.. 4th maybe.

Hyundai Sonata vs. Honda Accord vs. Toyota Camry vs. Ford Fusion

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