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The dealer has a 5 on the showroom floor, which I think is a sign that he knows the public needs to remain in touch with the vehicle, and I am sure they are being upfront with any interested parties regarding the recall.
I am wondering should I request a rental although my husband has a car but technically his Mazda 626 is the trade in ... 626 is not running well now ... we are waiting for the same color same type M5 now ... we figure we might have to start to look at other options now as the contract will expire beginning of Dec .... seriously we don't think the dealer at London, Ontario could have a car for us by that time ... sorry I don't have the answer .. but we are with you ...
If your car is already at a dealer, then it'll be available to you as soon as the recall is over (i.e., in another 2-3 weeks). In the US, dealers have a good number of Mazda5s in inventory, they're just waiting until the recall is over so they can start selling them. It appears that this isn't the case in Canada?
If your car hasn't been manufactured yet (i.e., it's still waiting to be made in Japan, then shipped to your dealer), I'd add roughly 1 to 1.5 months to whatever you were told before the recall. In other words, if you were originally told "early November", I'd guess that it'll now be "early-to-mid December". Of course, this also assumes that your "pre-recall" estimate was accurate at the time.
Good luck getting your Mazda5s! In my opinion, they're worth the wait!
Steve
HiFive
Where did you find one still in the showroom? Last one I saw in the showroom was at Rich Morton Mazda in Glen Burnie, which actually has a decent sized room. Russel Mazda in Catonsville barely has enough room for 2-3 cars in their showroom, and of course one of them has to be the Miata MX-5. At the time, the salesperson at Rich Morton wasn't very knowledgable about the recall, but the service and sales managers certainly were. I wouldn't mind some sort of an incentive to purchase this car now; Mazda's got to be pushing to get them on the road now that they've been recalled for a month or so. The car is selling by word of mouth, not advertising. Some cash back, perhaps?
Monday, I even took my 5 back to the dealer for the first oil change (free) and they didn't give me any hassels, they said they would let me know when the fix is in.
While I have been getting about 21-22 miles per gallon (US), I tried to keep my speed under 70 and be a little more conscious about fast starts, I got 30 mpg this time. This was with about 80% highway driving and about 20% with 4 passengers.
My dad was a bit dissapointed about the key design and he said it looks and acts like a jack-knife~!LOL~!
I asked our dealer if we could get a regular spare key because I run at a track and keep the car key tied in my shoe laces, (an old runner's trick). The Swiss Army Jack-Knife key isn't bad but the dealer said any (third) spare key would be the same type. Has anyone gotten a regular non switch-blade type spare key? Our Honda came with a Valet spare that didn't open the glove box and trunk.
Also, the rumor in the Problems and Solutions forum is that Mazda will give us jilted 5 owners a check for $500 for our dissapointing experience. I hate to spread rumors... :shades:
The sound is soooooo annoying. Yes I drive with my seatbelt on but there are brief occasions when I unlock it and that alarm will wake the baby right up. What do they think there is a Plutonium leak? Even when you come to a halt if it was on it just keeps going and then it gets worse.
Sorry about the rant but mine will be disabled one way or another.
I am in complete agreement about the seatbelt nag. My salesman said the nag could be disabled, the service manager said the dealer would not do it due to legal reasons. I really want to get it turned off. My loaner MPV doesnt have an irritating nag like that..I dont see why the 5 has to.
If anyone knows of any online resource that describes how to kill that nag, please post a link here.
If I rest my hand on the passenger seat, or even put my arm on the top of the passenger seat, the 'nag' comes on. It is ... tiresome. It really is impossible to drive for long without the seatbelt on, the nag is that annoying, which I believe is the point.
Yes, that reminds me. My little brief case placed on the passenger seat sets the darn thing off. That means you have to drive around with the passenger seat belted even though there is no passenger- just to get the thing to shut up. FYI, the Durango loaner has some sort of "reminder system" but it is a pleasant chime that comes and is not an ear shreaking beep that could wake the dead. If my baby is sleeping in the car I can no longer pop my seatbelt for a second, so I can get a lip balm out of my pocket. Ridiculous.
Frankly, page 2-22 of the owners manual says "the belt minder can be deactivated. Consult an Authorized Mazda Dealer to deactivate and restore the seatbelt minder."
I read the section to the Mazda customer service representative and told him if Mazda can't deliver on a feature in the car I either want them to buy it back "in full" or come thru with a promised feature. He placed me on hold and called technical support and told me a TSB was in the works for deactivating the supplemental "seat belt minder" and leaving only the Government mandated warning light and beep. The TSB was supposed to be out in 3 weeks. It is now 6 and still no one has it. If you haven't heard this thing yet give it a shot. You'll love it.
Do you remember the cars in the 70's that would not even start if you didn't have your seatbelt on? People usually just kept them buckled behind them.
Then they had the seatbelts that came around you automatically.
I'm glad to be back in my 5. For those of you who didn't get yours back, it is worth the wait.
Yes even Honda has had its share of fires.
CRV Fires
Sure they blame improper maintenance but it sounds more like an engineering defect considering the 44+ vehicles that actually caught fire.
Heres a comment from a Honda tech concerning the CRV.
">Honda CRV Fireshttp://www.consumeraffairs.com/automotive/honda_crv_fires.html
Rob of Bartlesville OK (7/15/04):
I have worked as a general automotive technician in a nearby Honda dealership. Honda designs the engine with the oil filter in a very ungodly place: between the block and the firewall. They even have special "shields" sent to the dealership, so that when an oil change is done, the technician can put that on the exhaust, because the filter is also located directly above the hottest part of the exhaust, and oil will get on the exhaust during an oil change.
I used to cringe when I saw a new Honda SUV coming in for service because I did my job correctly, and made sure the filters were tight. But doing so means getting burns from the exhaust, which I still have scars from a year later. To fully understand its positioning, you really need to get a new honda SUV on the lift, and look at the beast from below. I don't know WHAT they were thinking when they designed it this way. It's like, here's the oil filter, now, lets make an SUV around it.
Looks like the TSB has been out for almost a month.
Perhaps you can print it out and take it to your dealer's service manager and request again that the passenger side be shut off. Also looks like there might be a way to temporarily shut it off yourself.
http://www.mpvclub.com/tsb.php?id=174
Hope it works.
I work in the automotive industry and I've engineered a fix for a major campaign. No its not pretty, the car companies take it very seriously. All hell breaks loose and the rest of the world stops until the fix is implemented. In the case of this recall, Mazda should be put on a pedestal for recalling all the vehicels and putting a stop ship/sale on a new model, just weeks after launch. That's a big hit to the credibility of a vehicle. But they did it right. They could have waited until the fix was ready and at the dealers so owners could just drive in, wait an hour and off they go. But what would have the response been then? "You mean Mazda let us drive a potential fire hazard for a month and a half?" Everyone and their mothers would have been screaming bloody murder. Just be patient, it'll all be over in a few days and you'll have your hard earned Mazda5 back, just the way you bought it.
Oh and BTW, I was at my dealer in Grand Rapids yesterday and they just received a 5 that was labelled as "ready to sell". So the fix is imminent.
If you want the car you paid for back, you can have it. Just go to the dealer and tell them you want it back. I did, and now have over 6,000 miles on it.
The car is very safe, as long as you use it the way it was supposed to be used. I commend Mazda for going the extra mile. I also have a Honda CRV, they didn't let us know about their recall until they had the fix at dealers.
At this point miffed you should go post your complaints in the Mazda sucks forum because now you're becoming a bit annoying with the whole "Since you know so much about cars and what they are going to do maybe you should work for Mazda. With all the yelling in your wonderful email maybe they should bolt the heat shield on your head. " comment.
Anyhow I'll be happy to get my 5 back tomorrow , and oh yea do you still have that fire extinguisher for sale?
Does anyone know whether the 2006 cars sold in the USA have to have this belt minder by law? If not, it has to go.
Seems like the same engineers that couldn't "think of everything" and forgot to put an upshift into the autotranny while in manual mode, forgot to give a "brain" to the belt minder.
The dealerships have zero liability regarding disabling the belt minder. The car still has the seatbelt warning system and will show a light on the dash the whole time the belt is undone- or at least it should. Perhaps there is another oversight and they are afraid to expose it. Oh Oh :surprise: It's not like they are disabling the whole system, but they do act that way.
I recommend all potential buyers expose themselves to the minder on a test drive. Then demand as part of the purchase it be disabled or buy a Subaru.
Mazda should ship the car with the seatbelt minder disabled and ask if you want it enabled. I've seen posts elsewhere responding "Just where your belt". I think they miss the point. My goal is not to expose myself to risk. I want to take responsibility for myself. I don't need a nag. :mad:
Also. My car has no front license plate holder. No holes, no nothing. What do you guys have? :confuse:
Tires: needed to stand out as zoom zoom otherwise buy the new Chevy HHR or PT Cruiser; though nothing stopping them from making them available
Roof Rails: are available in the US as an accessory, though I don't know if Europe has real roof rails, like the ones on the MPV (fixed rails with adjustable rack bars)
Diesel: We have crappy diesel fuel (too much sulfur) that causes damage to the new common-rail diesels available in Europe; besides, even with the better new and improved diesel fuel, we just passed new more stringent emission rules that would fail those newer diesels
IMO - Your situation hardly compares to some of the other well known problems of yesteryear. People can say all they want about first year production models, but when a vehicle catches on fire while parked with the ignition in the 'off' position in a garage attached to a house, no one will care what year it was made. Mazda took the corrective action availble under the circumstances. Not everyone is satisfied with that decision, but at least they literally have roof under their head.
If by chance you find a mfg. that doesn't dissapoint, please share with the rest of us.
Roof rack is available in the US as an accessory.
Europe and everywhere else in the world has real Roof Rails, like the ones on the MPV.
The recommend doing a minus 1... I agree... 17" snows are harder to find, more expensive and would be a very ruff ride... my wife would be travelling thru the Pocono's in NE PA... 100+ of snow/year is common... and traversing up 1500-1700 feet of elevation each day... so I think it would give us a great deal of peace of mind
Item Description Estimated Availability
Explain Qty. Price Each Item Total
16" Style 15 (set of 4)
for 2006 Mazda 5 Touring
In Stock 012345678 $30.00 $30.00
16X6.5 New Steel Wheel Black Painted
for 2006 Mazda 5 Touring
Necessary wheel installation hardware included at no additional charge.
In Stock 012345678 $46.00 $184.00
205/55QR16 Bridgestone Blizzak Revo 1 Blackwall
for 2006 Mazda 5 Touring
In Stock 012345678 $104.00 $416.00
These tires and wheels will be mounted and balanced at NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
Total: $630.00
Also, a $500 check will be sent to the registered owner 4-6 weeks after re-delivery of vehicle. Can be spent anyway you feel, no restrictions.
I never turned my car in, however my tentative"plan" is to wait till December after feedback from others who have had the work done. If the majority is unhappy with post re calibration performance Mazda can keep their $500
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