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Increasing Horsepower/Torque/MPG
illicit_hunter
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I own a 1998 Dakota Club Cab with a 318 (5.2) in it. It is a 4WD truck. So far I have put straight pipes on it (back from the cat), a K&N FIPK Intake, and a new serpentine belt that routs underneath the A.C. Compressor. Is their anything else that I can do to increase HP, TQ, and MPG??????? I have heard that punching out that cat and just welding it back up their for "apperance for the coppers" will increase all of these.
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You can probably find a freer-flowing catalytic for the car and that might give you something like 8 HP. For fuel mileage you can run harder tire pressures and not use your AC as much, and you might try synthetic oil as well. As for more HP and torque, you're going to have to go into more exotic modifications and that can get expensive...you might investigate custom throttle bodies, custom intake system and finally internal engine modifications.
BOTTEM END IS BRAND NEW AND WAS BALANCED WHEN IT WAS BUILT
IGNITION IS HEI SUPERCOIL AND I RUN HOLLEY ELECTRIC FUEL PUMP. THIS SET UP IS INSIDE A 81Z28 AND I AM WONDERING WHAT KIND OF HORSEPOWER CAN I EXPECT THIS THING TO MAKE
BEFORE THE VICTOR JR INTAKE AND DEMON CARB IT RAN A SAD 14.2 IN THE 1/4 MILE AND I WONDER WHAT KIND OF POWER IT MAKES NOW WITH THE NEW TOP END. ANY ESTIMATES WOULD BE WELCOME AND IM JUST LOOKING FOR A GUESS UNTIL I CAN GET IT ON A DYNO. THANKS ALOT AND KEEP MAKIN THAT POWER
Very neat installation, the hardest part was putting the
rubber seal around the new air box.
At normal acceleration and speeds, sounds is almost the
same as stock, but under hard throttle the noise is high.
A dyno print out was in package, at 4400 rpm they showed
an 8 HP gain. I doubt that I've ever had the rpms over 4000
anyway.
I'll monitor mpg. Power seems smoother and a little more responsive?
Coming back home and after putting 400 miles on truck
with new K&N intake, the engine stumbled and sputtered a couple of times at a red light. Then the check engine light came on.
Engine smoothed back out and ran flawless for the next 100 miles back home. Checked the mal. engine code and it was
"O2 sensor, lean". I reset the code and will monitor for a repeat.
Has anyone esle seen this after going to a high flow intake system?
but read some customers reaction ,and some say they work and some say its a waste of money.It must depend on the vehicle you put them in.I did have a dual Borla cat back system put on and feel a little more power and MPGs.
-mike
-mike
In all the MSD ignition more than paid for itself in gas savings the first year I had the S-10, EXT Cab and LS Sportside bed. I just sold it after having it 7 years.
With out doing serious engine modification, I don't know that there is a real effective way to really make a factory tuned engine "perform". You can do chips and ECM programs, exhaust systems, K&N filters and such, but do they really make a difference?
Would I really see a difference in the performance of a 4.3 chevy motor with a cold air intake, a ECM reprogram, and a free flowing exhaust system? I have done cat-back to dual 2 1/4's, but it is mostly sound. If it would make a difference I would be willing to do a full exhaust system including new headers, a free flow cat and new mufflers. The truck has 104K on and so no worry's about the exhaust warranty. Also reprograming ther ECM and doing a full cold air intake, but only if it would make a noticable difference. Not just some measly 10 HP. If not than I'll just stick with the stock until it needs to be rebuilt and then either rebuild it and bore it out and stick a super charger on it, or completely replace with a LT-1 crate motor.....
There's compression ratios, breathing, cylinder head design, camshaft configuration, efficiency of the driven accessories (fan clutch or electric fan vs. fan blades, for instance), even type of oil used.
The Porsche 917 in 1971 was in its fiercest form a 5.4L engine, and it put out 1100 HP, with dyno peaks of 1500HP.
So amazing HP is possible---but this would hardly be a street engine.
And thus, we have all kinds of compromises made by the automaker, and some of these compromises might sacrifice HP for quietness, economy, or easier and cheaper mass production methods.
There are any number of powerful engines out there today but they may not be as durable as their "lesser" competitors.
Just increasing the compression ratio will improve power; but it also will require the use of higher octane fuel. And many performance engines already require the highest octane fuel that is available. So if you increase the compression ratio on an engine that already requires high octane fuel; the engine will begin pinging and knocking. If it is not retuned by retarding the igntion timing; such an engine will soon self destruct. But if you retard the ignition timing; the power will drop back to less than what it was before the compression ratio was increased. So this is an example of why some types of modifications are just not possible on certain engines. And many owners who build up their motors soon become tired of paying higher prices for premium fuel; just to get an an occasional blast of power.
Installing a bigger exhaust system, or a bigger intake system, or a bigger cam; or enlarging port sizes will all produce power increases at high engine speeds; but they will also REDUCE power and economy at low and medium engine speeds. And in addition; they will increase pollution. There is no free lunch in the power increasing world; every gain comes with a corresponding trade off. And this is something that all too many enthusiasts don't discover until after they have spent months or years of hard earned money and many hours of labor modifying a previously well balanced motor to make more power; only to discover that it has been transformed into a rough running, noisy, thirsty beast; which needs constant attention, can't be smoothed out, and frequently won't pass smog inspections.
Car manufacturers use sophisticated computer programs to design engines so that all the systems work together harmoniously. They certainly know how they could make their engines more powerful; but they also know what the downsides would be. And when you're designing an engine for a car that is not going to be raced; and in which smoothness, reliability, and great fuel economy are most important; the best way to achieve those goals is to not tune it radically. Other manufacturers try to build engines which have a little less smoothness and economy, but produce somewhat more power. And yet other companies build the most powerful motors they legally are allowed to sell. That's why engines of the same displacement are made with very different power ratings.
My brother in law, who was a physicist, decided to buy a new Chevelle in 1966. He had the mistaken idea that the most powerful engines had the best quality. So he ordered his new Chevelle with the most powerful 396 cid big block engine that was available. And he soon came to hate the rough running, thirsty motor. Eventually, he had the motor taken out and replaced with a low output small block 283. And he was much happier with that motor (despite the fact that he had ruined the resale value of his Chevelle SS 396).
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